Author Topic: gun massacre (Read 31189 times)

ekpent · « **Reply #200 on:** June 04, 2014, 08:45:17 AM »

Quote from: demon74 on June 04, 2014, 08:32:27 AM

Of course, I'm weeding with civility I always say please don't grow here so I don't have to harm you.
Bill the demon.

The politically correct thing would be to transplant them in a nice integrated area, feed them well with fertilizer and give them much words of encouragement.

demon78 · « **Reply #201 on:** June 04, 2014, 08:53:05 AM »

But I do encourage them, Turn the soil over, remove the weak you know every thing a weed loves.
Bill the demon.

bikerbart · « **Reply #202 on:** June 04, 2014, 08:58:53 AM »

After living and dealing with one of the most violent cities in America, I moved my wife and son to Canada. My nephew was shot point blank in the chest by his 'Buddy' who was a showoff with a gun. He died. I myself had to pull my weapon several times in the past, and each time I did , I was on the phone with the cops and informing them of my situation. Why is it most civilized countries do not have this problem ? 'Murica, Hoo Rah ! You can have it.

MCRider · « **Reply #203 on:** June 04, 2014, 09:37:23 AM »

Reason/authority for pulling a weapon without immediate need to shoot: "to prevent or suspend a robbery" or for many other reasons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

Just saying...

MCRider · « **Reply #204 on:** June 04, 2014, 10:02:55 AM »

I did read all of the disclaimers and warnings and higher standards etc. Pulling a gun is a serious matter, and in most cases best left undone. Waiving a gun is intimidation. Pointing a gun without justification is a crime.

I'm just saying the right and authority to do so does exist, subject to rstirctions per state.

No argument with the Road Rage. It does not generally rise to the standard necessary to pull a gun. (Commission of a felony).

I wouldn't go as far as say Citizens Arrest is outdated. It is what it is, legally defined and gives authority. Just as you describe.

I just recently took 2 courses on concealed carry in Indiana, and Citizens Arrest was covered. So, I am an expert.

70CB750 · « **Reply #205 on:** June 04, 2014, 10:13:19 AM »

Friend of mine, now 80 or so, with 3 tours in Vietnam was approached for carjack at the local gas station in Warrenton. Luckily he had a Glock to present and he kept his car. In situation like that, I don't consider it over excessive to stand your ground.

Roach Carver · « **Reply #206 on:** June 04, 2014, 10:27:56 AM »

I live in the country. If I were to call police and wait for them to intervene it would likely be "at least" 15 min for them to get there. If there is someone with the balls to break into my house at night I am going to assume that the individual has the means and possible intent to hurt me and my family.

MCRider · « **Reply #207 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:31:01 AM »

Quote from: calj737 on June 04, 2014, 11:21:05 AM

My situation is no different than yours, Roach. Only distinction is if he has property in his hands upon discovery, law here prevents me from protecting property with deadly force. Quite rightly I think too.

Let's just hope neither of us are ever confronted with having to make that decision.

I think that's fairly universal. "Reasonable force." But if there's only one witness (left, that is) who's to say...

But really, let's hope.

bikerbart · « **Reply #208 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:32:12 AM »

Crackheads and drug addicts trying to force their way into my home , more than once. So, I called the cops and put my weapon in their face and told em , They all left quickly. Does that suffice. I have been a victim of crime a lot, I just got tired of it. When my wife showed me the 'BAD' part of town in Vancouver, I laughed. The Zombies ( drug addicts ) only want your change, they wont hurt you. I made my decision when she asked if we could move back home ( wife's home ) I said hell yeah, vancouver is awesome (if you can afford it ) Also, My military training and war kind of got me tired of guns.

bikerbart · « **Reply #209 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:36:39 AM »

I would always defend myself , but property, TV's , cell phone's etc. , Is not worth a life in my opinion . I choose not to put myself in that kind of situation anymore. When you are poor ( as I was financially most my life ) you have no choice but to live among the criminal's drug addicts etc. You live and learn .

Roach Carver · « **Reply #210 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:47:30 AM »

If all a person wanted was my tv I would be "happy" for them to take it and go. I don't think it would occur to me to pour hot lead into their back. I hope I never have the situation present itself where I have to determine whether I or my family is in danger of harm.

demon78 · « **Reply #211 on:** June 04, 2014, 11:58:03 AM »

Bikerbart how are finding my old home town? Used to love it, but haven't been back since 1963 and it was like any place, depended where you went and you learned early you didn't #$%* with the Tongs under any circumstances ( they ate stupid anglos/white boys for snacks.
Bill the demon.

bikerbart · « **Reply #212 on:** June 04, 2014, 02:36:57 PM »

I like it . I dont go 'Clubbing' or anything like that where a lot of the gang element and young hotheads are just looking for trouble. Plus, that whole scene in F*&^%$ng gross. Tong's huh ? I rememeber a gang from NYC called the Wong's. They were in a movie , 'Lords of Flatbush' I think. But they were an actual gang.

nccb · « **Reply #213 on:** June 05, 2014, 04:08:23 AM »

Bill the demon, your border has been breached:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/05/world/canada-shooting/

demon78 · « **Reply #214 on:** June 05, 2014, 04:59:38 AM »

I know and that's what I figured would happen all along, which is why I've been seeking answers from a group of nonpareil thinkers such as yourselves. Problem with conventional academics is if you get too many of them together in a spot the question deteriorates into how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. Obviously what's needed is a practical solution to the problem, not that he had a disturbed child hood, there is a bunch of us that had a disturbed child hoods and some how we've managed not to kill masses of people. For the gun crazies in the crowd the Mounties were armed and it did them #$%* all good, so another solution than arm all parties, cause as I suspect it doesn't work.
Bill the demon.

evanphi · « **Reply #215 on:** June 05, 2014, 05:49:04 AM »

I live about an hour away from where this is currently going down. My cousin is a local RCMP, and have several friends in local PD.

3 Mounties confirmed dead, two others with non life threatening injuries. They still haven't found the guy yet. The guy is seriously sick and disillusioned. I hope they find him soon and nobody else gets hurt.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #216 on:** June 05, 2014, 06:00:55 AM »

Quote from: evanphi on June 05, 2014, 05:49:04 AM

I live about an hour away from where this is currently going down. My cousin is a local RCMP, and have several friends in local PD.

3 Mounties confirmed dead, two others with non life threatening injuries. They still haven't found the guy yet. The guy is seriously sick and disillusioned. I hope they find him soon and nobody else gets hurt.

I hope they find him also.

demon78 · « **Reply #217 on:** June 05, 2014, 06:25:27 AM »

I don't know any thing about him except what I see on the CBC web site and it looked like he's seen to many Rambo movies. Yes I hope they get him out of circulation quickly.
Bill the demon.
Ps luck for your cousin.

BobbyR · « **Reply #218 on:** June 05, 2014, 06:50:35 AM »

The Mounties willl probably kill him.

72 yellow · « **Reply #219 on:** June 05, 2014, 07:53:41 AM »

You are not safe anywhere. Hope they find him and deal with it accordingly. Prayers for the families of the officers.

BobbyR · « **Reply #220 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:49:29 AM »

Safety is am illusion. Prayers to the families. The Cops will kill him, there will be no chance of a Lawyer getting him into a nice nuthouse.

demon78 · « **Reply #221 on:** June 06, 2014, 03:10:12 AM »

They got the shooter in custody now maybe we'll find out why the #$%* did it.
Bill the demon.

nccb · « **Reply #222 on:** June 06, 2014, 03:34:04 AM »

Quote from: demon74 on June 06, 2014, 03:10:12 AM

They got the shooter in custody now maybe we'll find out why the #$%* did it.
Bill the demon.

That is surprising. I thought for sure there would be a gun fight.

ekpent · « **Reply #223 on:** June 06, 2014, 04:17:06 AM »

Seattle----

demon78 · « **Reply #224 on:** June 06, 2014, 04:27:24 AM »

Like any other group of people if the cops just put him down there would be a tendency to do that to the next one and so on until you have an automatic response to any one that is a troublemaker. I don't trust any one in a position of authority to perform the death squad thing, hence I want to know why J #$%* did it and yes I chose the term because any thing else might confirm a sense of importance to the creature in others minds.
Convoluted thinking on my part perhaps but there should be no reward for that behaviour.
Bill the demon.

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Author Topic: gun massacre (Read 31189 times)