Topic: gun massacre

[70CB750]

Like any other group of people if the cops just put him  down there would be a tendency to do that to the next one and so on until you have an automatic response to any one that is a troublemaker. I don't trust any one in a position of authority to perform the death squad thing, hence I want to know why J #$%* did it and yes I chose the term because any thing else might confirm a sense of importance to the creature in others minds.
Convoluted thinking on my part perhaps but there should be no reward for that behaviour.
Bill the demon.

+1

[JeffSTL]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

[demon78]

+1 in both countries.
Bill the demon.

[demon78]

So I sent to the C.B.C. a comment that said why glorify this creature, call him what he is an #$%* to imply that he is lower than pond scum and I may send some thing the same to the B.B.C., A.B.C., Asia Pacific News, Norwegian Times now if you guys from the states would do the same we might start a world wide movement to diminish these creatures.
Bill the demon.

[BobbyR]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

[70CB750]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

If he knew, that there may be armed students in the school, maybe he would not even try it.  Declaring gun free zones is like marking chicken house for a fox.

[JeffSTL]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

Possibly, but I'm not really willing to settle for that. I don't want to live in a society where my son has to be armed to go to school. Besides, the idea that arming more people makes society a safer place is contrary to the statistics.

[JeffSTL]

So I sent to the C.B.C. a comment that said why glorify this creature, call him what he is an #$%* to imply that he is lower than pond scum and I may send some thing the same to the B.B.C., A.B.C., Asia Pacific News, Norwegian Times now if you guys from the states would do the same we might start a world wide movement to diminish these creatures.
Bill the demon.

Demon,

While I completely agree these people are major #$%*s, I'm not sure they are concerned about how they are labeled. They are mentally ill. They are not people of rational thought. I will not discourage you from sending such messages, but not sure it could make a difference in the outcome of such situations. Possibly a therapeutic release for you, though.

[JeffSTL]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

If he knew, that there may be armed students in the school, maybe he would not even try it.  Declaring gun free zones is like marking chicken house for a fox.

Again, this idea is based on these people being of sound mind. They are mentally disturbed and the idea of a rational thought process is tossed out the window.

[mick7504]

http://m.ntnews.com.au/news/northern-territory/jingili-family-tragedy-ruled-murdersuicide-but-no-knife-wounds-on-children/story-fnk0b1zt-1226944504957
There were no guns involved here.
A very sad story involving children.
How does one know when a person is on the brink of snapping.
Absolute disbelief that came with zero indication.

[Bob Wessner]

So I sent to the C.B.C. a comment that said why glorify this creature, call him what he is an #$%* to imply that he is lower than pond scum and I may send some thing the same to the B.B.C., A.B.C., Asia Pacific News, Norwegian Times now if you guys from the states would do the same we might start a world wide movement to diminish these creatures.
Bill the demon.

I agree and will gladly join your campaign. That said, I hold out little hope. Most "news ' outlets are little more than entertainment outlets and do anything they can to sell /air commercial time. 

[JeffSTL]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

Possibly, but I'm not really willing to settle for that. I don't want to live in a society where my son has to be armed to go to school. Besides, the idea that arming more people makes society a safer place is contrary to the statistics.

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement. I don't won't to live in a society that would prefer to simply arm students and teachers instead of doing the hard work of indentifying the causes and working towards finding solutions together in a civilized manner, so that we can live freely without fear of being gunned down in public.

Is the self-proclaimed "greatest country on earth" incapable of this? Are we helpless? Are we just going to admitt defeat? Are we just too lazy to do anything about it?

I think this country's inability to address the issue of gun violence may be as telling about our sad state of affairs as the maniacs pulling the trigger.

[Duke McDukiedook]

All symptoms of an empire in decline just like Rome.
Salad days are over boys, it's just a #$%*-slog through the bottom from here.

[BobbyR]

Seattle----

Luckily, that guy was armed with a shotgun and not a high capacity assault rifle and backup handgun like so many of these mass shooters. Students were able to pepper spray and tackle him while he was reloading.

There will be more. Lawmakers (leaders, HA!) will continue to deny the necessary funds for proper mental health services and are too cowardice to enact common sense gun regulations.  Nothing has changed since the last one and nothing will change after the next one.

If some of the students were armed he may have niot hurt as many people.

Possibly, but I'm not really willing to settle for that. I don't want to live in a society where my son has to be armed to go to school. Besides, the idea that arming more people makes society a safer place is contrary to the statistics.

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement. I don't won't to live in a society that would prefer to simply arm students and teachers instead of doing the hard work of indentifying the causes and working towards finding solutions together in a civilized manner, so that we can live freely without fear of being gunned down in public.

Is the self-proclaimed "greatest country on earth" incapable of this? Are we helpless? Are we just going to admitt defeat? Are we just too lazy to do anything about it?

I think this country's inability to address the issue of gun violence may be as telling about our sad state of affairs as the maniacs pulling the trigger.

Our Politicians are incapable of coming up with a viable plan. The Gun banners are just as clueless as the those on the opposite side. Mental Health care budget has been cut every year. Some piece of garbage who had just been paroeled a week ago for just stabbed a 7 year old to death in an Elevator. He has been locked up for violence several times. He is lucky the Cops caught him since the most debased street thugs were also looking for him.   

[MCRider]

PERSONALLY:  don't see any way or reason for it to change. It is the human nature, biology, some percentage of the population will always be crazy. Some of them will be very good at hidiing it. Violence is nothing new. It may ebb and flow. but overall consistent with population.

As previous posts indicate, the worst school attacks occurred decades ago and involved explosives, which have been around for thousands of years.

As to gun violence, what's that? How about knife violence, China, pipe bomb violence, Unibomber, etc. its simply convenience violence. Sometimes personal fantasy violence. Limiting access to guns does nothing to limit crazy.  I submit, nothing will.

Walk on the other side of the street, figuratively and literally. With a gun.

Or so I think.

[JeffSTL]

Walk on the other side of the street, figuratively and literally. With a gun.

Or so I think.

I can't imagine how this could possibly be a satisfactory way to live life for anyone.

[MCRider]

Walk on the other side of the street, figuratively and literally. With a gun.

Or so I think.

I can't imagine how this could possibly be a satisfactory way to live life for anyone.

To me, it is only unsatisfactory when one supposes it can be any other way. A tree fell on a man's house and killed him. I keep trees away from my house. I spent money to fix a tree that was threatening. Like that.

It doesn't affect my happiness.

[JeffSTL]

Walk on the other side of the street, figuratively and literally. With a gun.

Or so I think.

I can't imagine how this could possibly be a satisfactory way to live life for anyone.

To me, it is only unsatisfactory when one supposes it can be any other way. A tree fell on a man's house and killed him. I keep trees away from my house. I spent money to fix a tree that was threatening. Like that.

It doesn't affect my happiness.

To use your analogy, your approach to gun violence would be to stay on the other side of the house and carry a chainsaw instead of spending money to fix the threatening tree. 

[MCRider]

IF you can identify the threat you have a chance to fix it. I said that. What I'm saying is there is some level of threat, like crazy, that cannot be identified, or fixed, no matter what state one's civilisation is in, and one should not expect otherwise.

And thanks for the smiley. 

[DH]

IF you can identify the threat you have a chance to fix it. I said that. What I'm saying is there is some level of threat, like crazy, that cannot be identified, or fixed, no matter what state one's civilisation is in, and one should not expect otherwise.

And thanks for the smiley. 

I heard of an instance in Indiana once, where an armed citizen was car jacked. The citizen promptly shot his attacker as the guy entered thru the passenger door. The attacker had a partner behind him, and as the bullet went through the first guy (killing
him) it wounded the second guy., who was consequently charged for the murder of his pal under indiana law. I don't want to stir the pot any more than it already is, but If
that story is true, what do you all think about it? Just curious......

[MCRider]

IF you can identify the threat you have a chance to fix it. I said that. What I'm saying is there is some level of threat, like crazy, that cannot be identified, or fixed, no matter what state one's civilisation is in, and one should not expect otherwise.

And thanks for the smiley. 

I heard of an instance in Indiana once, where an armed citizen was car jacked. The citizen promptly shot his attacker as the guy entered thru the passenger door. The attacker had a partner behind him, and as the bullet went through the first guy (killing
him) it wounded the second guy., who was consequently charged for the murder of his pal under indiana law. I don't want to stir the pot any more than it already is, but If
that story is true, what do you all think about it? Just curious......

It goes somethiing like this: if you re an accomplice in the commission of a felony, and your accomplice is killed by any party, you, a passerby, the victim, anybody, even if it was an accident, you can be charged with murder.

Pretty cool!

[demon78]

I don't understand why the second person be charged with murder I understand that he should be charged with assault. I'm not sure it's worth some ones life to stop a car jacking now if said car jacker threatened me with a weapon bye bye.
If my life is threatened that's something I wouldn't take, if my family was threatened I might consider removing from the gene pool all of that particular strain of pond scum, it depends. But it still boils down to we have to do better as far as mass murder goes every one says guns are not the problem it's the villians, great, but then the fact that you can stop a guy with a shot gun while he reloads but not someone while they swap magazines means to me you that you have to stop large magazines from being sold or assault weapons.
Bill the demon.

[JeffSTL]

I don't understand why the second person be charged with murder I understand that he should be charged with assault. I'm not sure it's worth some ones life to stop a car jacking now if said car jacker threatened me with a weapon bye bye.
If my life is threatened that's something I wouldn't take, if my family was threatened I might consider removing from the gene pool all of that particular strain of pond scum, it depends. But it still boils down to we have to do better as far as mass murder goes every one says guns are not the problem it's the villians, great, but then the fact that you can stop a guy with a shot gun while he reloads but not someone while they swap magazines means to me you that you have to stop large magazines from being sold or assault weapons.
Bill the demon.

Careful Bill. No matter how reasonable, logical or sensible that might sound, it could possibly cause an NRA member's head to explode when they read it. It could get you labeled a pinko gun grabbing libtard. You don't want to have to carry that around. 

[JeffSTL]

@JeffSTL - Really, is this the productive approach to dialogue you seek? Open your mind, leave the preconceived notions at home, and join a thread to identify individuals who seek to find a solution, not to childishly call each other names.

Nope. I probed and questioned and tried to have a serious convo about it, but according to the "pro-gun rights" crowd, there doesn't seem to be anything we can do. It's "just human nature", we just have to "hope", if you restrict guns at all "they'll just kill with something else", no sense in spending time or money on mental health services because "you can't fix crazy". And really "it's all the liberal media's fault" and maybe a parting shot at "Obummer" and throw in abortion just for good measure.

This once great country, a country that defeated the great British monarchy, unified after a bloody civil war, helped defeat the Nazis, came back from the Great Depression, built the Hoover Dam, and put a #$%*ing man on the moon, is powerless to do anything about the thousands gunned down every year.

I figure it pointless to discuss anymore. Figured I'd share a little joke with Bill.

[Duke McDukiedook]

Yeah, apparently abortion, libtards and Obummer are responsible for all this country's ills.
If only we could make this place a theocracy (Taliban are great!!!), outlaw that nasty abortion once and for all, (we wouldn't want women to have control over their own bodies now would we??) outlaw them nasty gay peoples and resurrect the body of Ronnie Raygun this country would be a respectable place again!!

God bless Dick Cheney, Sarah Palin and most of all Marine Todd for knocking that libtard college teacher straight on his ass!!! Take that intellectualism and science!

Real Uhmuricuns!!!