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Offline Storyman

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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe.
« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2014, 08:11:47 PM »
My 76 CB550F has clearly been slowly leaking from the oil pump cover. Impossible to find any info on the correct "skinny" o-ring under the cover pretty much anywhere but here! The dealer & everyone said it's was the larger one (which I'm guessing goes under the pump against the crankcase), and which I ordered (grrr). I can't tell you how happy I am to read that there's another honda that uses the same o-ring. I will order up one of those ASAP. I guess I will hold on to that other o-ring in case I spring another leak in the future. I noted that it's possible to change the o-ring without losing more than a dixie cup full of oil. Obviously keep it clean in there. Luckily my impact wrench did the trick, too. I used a rubber mallet, and it seemed to work fine. I thought less shock the better.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe.
« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2014, 10:11:57 AM »
@bodi - gotcha, no problem, brother. And, me, f'n up numbers? Yup, that sounds about right.   ::)

Pops was my math teacher in high school, and I still managed to get a "D" in algebra  :o

@storyman - that part number is great -- these forums are the same place I tracked it down.

I'm running it on two CB550's and it finally resolved that sneaky oil cover leak, and have had no issues since.

That oil cover leak is a b**ch -- replaced all the oil pump o-rings on the fiche, shifter seal, and the seal behind sprocket - and each time it seemed to resolve that gear-shifter leak.

But what was actually happening in removing the side-cover, it'd dump the build-up of oil from the the slow leak from the oil pump cover, and then it'd take a few weeks to build up again from the leaking oil pump cover.

I'd think I'd have everything finally resolved, then boom, another pair of tennies ruined  >:(

Glad you got it squared away! SOHC strikes again.
Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls.  ~Stirling Moss

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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe.
« Reply #27 on: June 20, 2014, 01:42:37 PM »
O-rings are in. Tomorrow I get into the oil pump. I'll update with pics.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe.
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2014, 05:41:29 PM »
OK got the pump off. I just drilled through the screws that I couldn't get out with the impact driver.

Son had my tablet so fast forward to fixed.

Gade 8 hex bolts on the cover :)

I then decide to check thing out under the head, and found something scary.

It seems that there was a piston clip missing. NOw the piston pin gouged cylinder #3. So either I forgot it during last years rebuild or there is one in my crankcase.

Time to overbore or Ebay some cylinders.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe.
« Reply #29 on: June 21, 2014, 06:38:04 PM »
A rough estimate is .5mm. Not good. On the bright side this gives me more time to clean up, polish, and paint everything else on the bike.
Checking ebay now.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2014, 07:42:44 PM »
That bah-lows - sorry, bro - these GD bikes are heartbreakers sometimes ...
Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls.  ~Stirling Moss

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2000 Kaw Nomad 1500
1992 KDX 200
2001 Honda 80R
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1970 Yamaha 350RD
2003 Yamaha VStar 1100
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2014, 07:43:29 PM »
Beauty of the 40 yr old Beast. 
Life Is Full Of Challenges - And My Backyard Is Full Of SOHC4's

CB550 K0
CB750 K0, K2, K23 JDM, K45, K5
And the little ones z50r, xr50r, st90


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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2014, 08:29:25 PM »
Beauty of the 40 yr old Beast.
Speaking of beauty I'm doing a quick polish of the crankcase covers. If I can't make it run I'll work on making it look better till I get replacement cylinders. Will post a pic when I can finally pry my tablet away from my son.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2014, 09:38:18 PM »
Ha ha - reminds of my friend - good plan!

I convinced my buddy to buy a 74 Suzuki Titan (T-500) - and old two-stroke streetbike - from a guy that used it as a ranch bike.

Didn't know it at the time, but unlike these Honda's, parts are pretty much impossible to find.

He's been working on it for the past two and a half years (taking frequent breaks to curse my hide for ever putting the idea in his head), and finally got everything together and got it running just this spring.

He took the same approach - just detailing it while he was waiting to track down parts. Well, after 2 1/2 years, that bike is SO cherry at this point - repainted petrol tank, oil-injection tank, etc. Every bit of aluminum polished, pipes shined to a gloss - He loves it now - and it is a looker, man. You NEVER see those old two strokers around anymore.

Keep at man - these 'ol b*****s always come together if you're patient enough  ;)
Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls.  ~Stirling Moss

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1977 CB550K http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=138289.0
1977 CB550K
1972 CL175
2000 Kaw Nomad 1500
1992 KDX 200
2001 Honda 80R
Past Bikes:
1973 Kaw 900Z1
1970 Yamaha 350RD
2003 Yamaha VStar 1100
2001 Suzuki GS850

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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #34 on: June 22, 2014, 07:53:19 AM »
Keep at man - these 'ol b*****s always come together if you're patient enough  ;)

I'll keep at it. I may not have money for parts nut I've got lots of patience. Speaking of parts and keeping myself busy. Here's the left crankcase cover. It still needs a final pass

Also where can I find just one cylinder sleeve?
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #35 on: June 22, 2014, 02:40:32 PM »
Waiting to hear back from 2 ebay sellers. I want to make sure the bores are the correct size. There's a lot of 550 stuff being confused with 500 on ebay.
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #36 on: June 22, 2014, 08:36:04 PM »
This is for the 500. Why would I need to bore the sleeve?
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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2014, 01:19:42 AM »
But you said it was a 550 pump leaking
Semi Geriatric ex-Honda mechanic and MOT tester (UK version of annual inspection). Garage full of "projects" mostly 500/4 from pre 73 (no road tax in UK).

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Re: cb500 oil pump leaking, maybe. Now with cylinder gouging.
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2014, 05:01:09 AM »
Sorry, I'm still getting this a bit mixed up. Still recovering from a concussion. It is a 500 though.
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