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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2014, 08:52:38 PM »
Float height is not to be messed with.  The factory spec. setting is the only setting that the carb is designed around to deliver correct fuel/air ratios across the bikes performance range...... should never need to be adjusted, just some folks can't help themselves move it away from spec. so yes, it should be checked. More important IMO is to verify without a doubt that the fuel delivery from the tank to all 4 carbs is reliable and consistent...... lean looking plugs at a WOT plug chop can often be low fuel levels in the bowls due to poor fuel delivery... i.e. the bunged-up petcock is now your main jet !!  ( not so far-fetched ! ).. :o
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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2014, 11:41:16 PM »
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Float height is not to be messed with.  The factory spec. setting is the only setting that the carb is designed around to deliver correct fuel/air ratios across the bikes performance range...... should never need to be adjusted, just some folks can't help themselves move it away from spec. so yes, it should be checked. More important IMO is to verify without a doubt that the fuel delivery from the tank to all 4 carbs is reliable and consistent...... lean looking plugs at a WOT plug chop can often be low fuel levels in the bowls due to poor fuel delivery... i.e. the bunged-up petcock is now your main jet !!  ( not so far-fetched ! ).. :o
Excellent remark. The checking as demonstrated in the film I've done a couple of times, be it with a self cut credit card. So far there was no need to adjust anything. The original parts are in there 38 years and show no signs of wear. That's no wonder if you consider how little gas passes in a 500cc 4 carburetor engine.



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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2014, 03:42:42 AM »
Adjusting Carburetor Float Level


I found this interesting. 8)

Perfect video!
This how to do it.
Then check the result with clear tube! :) This is what I had to do when my floats floaded the engine.
I tried to tell my carbs that I had measured the floats and found them OK, so stop floading and foul my expensive Irridium plugs that never came out on the road. But my Mikuni carbs have no ears :(
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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2014, 06:13:41 AM »
Float height is not to be messed with.  The factory spec. setting is the only setting that the carb is designed around to deliver correct fuel/air ratios across the bikes performance range...... should never need to be adjusted, just some folks can't help themselves move it away from spec. so yes, it should be checked.

If a bike has been modified, such as porting, larger valves, less restrictive exhaust, overbore, and different cam, would this still hold true? Or is that a whole other ball of wax, where you start from factory spec and move on from there?
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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2014, 07:18:46 AM »
Float height is not to be messed with.  The factory spec. setting is the only setting that the carb is designed around to deliver correct fuel/air ratios across the bikes performance range...... should never need to be adjusted, just some folks can't help themselves move it away from spec. so yes, it should be checked.

If a bike has been modified, such as porting, larger valves, less restrictive exhaust, overbore, and different cam, would this still hold true? Or is that a whole other ball of wax, where you start from factory spec and move on from there?
Yes, it still holds true.  What you have listed ^ requires the volume of gas supplied(jets/needle clip position) to change, not so much the level of gas in the bowls.  The LEVEL of gas is the goal.  This level adequately covers the jets for proper fuel supply.  We need to verify this height recommended by Honda, is still correct, and not been messed with by someone before us.  Its an easy thing to check as you probably know.  Only seconds to verify someone before us didnt mess with them. Then they rarely need to be checked/adjusted again.

The only way to verify our floats are achieving a fuel level adequate enough to cover jets and not overflow, is the clear tube method.  It is only intended to check fuel level in the bowl, and the integrity of the float if/when it is properly set/adjusted.
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Re: Clear tube method of checking float height
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2014, 08:43:35 AM »
Hey Flybox, thanks for the clarification. Mine were massively messed with from PO.
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