Topic: spped bleeders are the shiznit!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Jaknight,

Very valid points. Honda made a bunch of changes that do not seem necessary. Why not 1 bleeder period?! Too late now however. I had to deal with the nice folks at Speed Bleeder twice myself. They just don't have a good reference. They did ask me whether the caliper was Tokiko or Nissin (spelling?). Thats just too difficult.  Ideally, when we get a completed list for ALL SOHC's, let's verify the information then post in in FAQ and forward a copy to Speed Bleeder. They really need to be approached to be a sponsor of this website with us directing business their way. The appropriate person should be able to accomplish both.

Jerry

[nickjtc]

Jaknight,
They really need to be approached to be a sponsor of this website with us directing business their way. The appropriate person should be able to accomplish both.
Jerry

Good idea!

Also, with all the love being shown to Seafoam, maybe they should be approached too....?

[Gordon]

Good idea!

Also, with all the love being shown to Seafoam, maybe they should be approached too....?

And the good folks at Scottoiler should be paying your mortgage!

[nickjtc]

And the good folks at Scottoiler should be paying your mortgage!

Wouldn't that be nice!!? But, alas, I plough a lonely furrow when it comes to Scottoiler use.

[burmashave]

Sorry, I didn't realize how complete Jerry's first list was.  I've taken his reference of Honda bleeder part numbers and expanded it out by models. Should have done that the first time.    Thanks, Jerry!
   
Speedbleeder Reference by Honda Bleeder Part Number and Model

45109-300-003           ====> Speedbleeder SB10125 or SB10125SS (stainless steel)
  CB750K '76 750 Four K
  CB450K3 - K7 Super Sport 450
  CB750K0, CB750K1, CB750K2 Four
  CB750K3 - K5 Four
 
45224-579-013           ====> Speedbleeder SB7100 or SB7100SS (stainless steel)
  CB450K3 - KK7 Super Sport 450
  CB550K, CB550K1
  CB360T, T '76
  CB550F '76
  CB550F '77
  CB750F '75 - '76 (front)
  CB750A '76
  CB750A '77 - '78
  CB550K '77 - '78
  CB750K '77 - '78
  CB350G, CL350K5 Super Sport 350/Scrambler 350
  CB350F, CB350F1
  CB500, CB500K1, CB500K2 500 Four
  CB360, CB360G
  CB500T, '76
  CB400F '76 - '77 Super Sport 400 Four
 
43352-568-003           ====> Speedbleeder SB8125 or SB8125SS (stainless steel)
  CB750F '75 - '76 (rear)
  CB750F '77 - '78 (front & rear)
  CB400T '80 - '81 Hawk
 
45224-413-003           ====> Need Size for 650K!
  CB400TI, CB400TII '78 - '79 Hawk I/II
  CB400T '80 - '81 Hawk
  CB400A '78 Hawk Hondamatic
  CB750K '79 - '82, CB750L '79
  CB650 '79
  CB650 '80 - '82, CB650C '80 - '81
  CB450SC '82 - '83, '85 - '86
  CB450T Hawk
  CB650SC '82 Nighthawk 650

 
If it's any small amount of consolation, Honda standardized on the bleeders used in the F2 & F3.  They're still using that size in their new bikes.
 
I tried to catch all the Honda SOHC models, but let me know if I've missed any, and I haven't yet found a the SB size to fit the last group, which includes the CB650.

-Will

Edit 25 Sept: Specified front/rear for F series bleeders.
Edit 26 Sept: Added ref.'s for '75 F series (matches '76 F series).

[Hockers Choppers]

exactly how do these work? any pics? I've been useing a vac pot to bleed my brakes with no probs.

[nickjtc]

Inside the nipple part of the bleeder (there's that word again) there is a spring and a small ball which acts as a one-way valve. When you loosen the bleeder and apply pressure to the system (squeeze the lever) the ball is pushed against the spring and the opening at the end of the bleeder opens, allowing brake fluid to escape. When you release pressure on the lever the ball is pushed against the opening by the spring, thus stopping air from entering the system.

[superchode]

maybe i should get a set of these... not having much luck with the '78 750F and getting the brakes as stiff as i'd like them.

may as well order a set for the VFR while i'm at it... haven't bled that bike yet - but i imagine it's a lot harder to do that the cb due to the linked braking setup.

Hey superchode, I'm having some braided stainless steel lines madeup for my 78 cb750f. I had to get two sets for the minimum order. Let me know if your interested in one. I may get more made up if there is someone else looking. Don't know a for sure price yet. under $200 for all 4 lines I'm sure.

definately interested. however... i need a longer than stock line running from the front master cylinder to the splitter. i'm not sure if the line i have is improper or i ended up with a non-stock set of bars somehow... but it's way too tight.  maybe you could tell me what length you've got for that one so i can compare - the others should be just peachy as stock.

if you can meet that requirement.. gimme a price for the set and i'll get on board - i'm starting to suspect that my old brake lines are a more that minor culprit of my spongy brakes.

[gar]

...Speedbleeder Reference by Honda Bleeder Part Number and Model ...

Burma - Thanks for all you've put into this...exceptional work!  You've spared many of us unneccessary work and frustration.
You're a good (virtual) friend

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

Hey Burma,

These posts are just like the old Burmashave signs on the roadway. Hows that for ironic?! The next one picks up where the last one left off. Burmashave!

Idea - 43352-568-003
         CB750F 75 & 76 Rear
         CB750F 77 & 78 Front and Rear

         45224-579-013
         CB750F 75 & 76 Front

Click on the envelope to the left and PM email me and we can keep the size down - almost done

OK you 650 guys - lets get those Speed Bleeder numbers to us so we can finalize this

Who else have we missed ??

[Hockers Choppers]

definately interested. however... i need a longer than stock line running from the front master cylinder to the splitter. i'm not sure if the line i have is improper or i ended up with a non-stock set of bars somehow... but it's way too tight.  maybe you could tell me what length you've got for that one so i can compare - the others should be just peachy as stock.

if you can meet that requirement.. gimme a price for the set and i'll get on board - i'm starting to suspect that my old brake lines are a more that minor culprit of my spongy brakes.

Let me know the length you need on the top hose and I'll get a more definite price. I don't know about Honda, but Harley Davidson recommends changing out brake lines every 10 years or something. Maybe another ploy to sell inflated priced parts!!??!!

The Hoses I have are 13" top, 19" bottoms and 17" rear.

[superchode]

i'll measure it up tomorrow night. i'll send you a PM.

[putnaja1]

OK guys..  I got mine today, and comparing it with a stock bleeder, it looks like the threads are the same, but the speed bleeder is longer than the stock unit by maybe 1/4"?  Is this what you guys noticed too?  If so, my guess is even though it is longer it still works fine in the caliper?

Either that, or, the bleeder that I got was mis-packaged.. 

[jaknight]

Hi putnaja1,

     No sweat on the greater length ..........

     It is some extra room to accommodate the mechanism (spring and small ball bearing) that is inside to make the Speed Bleeder do what it dooooooooes........

     ~ ~ ~ jaknight ~ ~ ~

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

If it had an "L" in the item number it is indeed a little longer. That's not a problem. Just sticks up a little higher. What bike and what Speed Bleeder number?

[jaknight]

PUTNAJA1- - - - - ->

     My Speed Bleeder was a good 1/4 inch longer than my stock valve.

     My part number is SB10125-SS............. a stainless model......... It does work great and absolutely no problems........

     Put your mind at ease.......... it's OK..........

     ~ ~ ~ jaknight ~ ~ ~