Author Topic: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658 (Read 8131 times)

kmb69 · « **Reply #25 on:** July 03, 2014, 07:23:32 PM »

Depending on just how CORRECT you want it, there is some really good stuff over on the Sandcast Only Forum. Not much BS, just pretty good technical stuff. I continue to learn a lot over there. It can take some time and money to collect the CORRECT parts if you don't already have them. Take your time, get it right and it will be a respectable IRA indeed.

Sgt.Pinback · « **Reply #26 on:** July 03, 2014, 11:28:42 PM »

tango911 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 04, 2014, 08:08:02 AM »

Kmb. I tried to register at the sandcast only forum but it was down or closed for registering . I'll try again later after I picture log everything.

calj737 · « **Reply #28 on:** July 04, 2014, 08:39:32 AM »

I hear a very loud round of applause, mixed with hearts breaking all over the world by the "would-be buyers".

I envy you, and huge kudos for a great score!

tango911 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 04, 2014, 10:17:48 AM »

I just took a pic inventory of all the parts. Will be posting them here and the sandcastonly once i get registered. Thanks guys for the input. Im def going to rebuild this bike. I was going to do a 72 cb750 as well.

tango911 · « **Reply #30 on:** July 04, 2014, 11:49:54 AM »

http://s15.photobucket.com/user/Tango911/embed/slideshow/SANDCAST

Bankerdanny · « **Reply #31 on:** July 04, 2014, 01:43:53 PM »

There aren't a lot of SOHC4's that you can really say are investment worthy bikes that will return the cost of a resto+, but a sandcast is definitely one of them.

Tews19 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 04, 2014, 03:24:46 PM »

Danny I think most CB'S are a great investment. I've never lost money on one yet. .. I am sure you are in the positive as well!

tango911 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 04, 2014, 05:01:33 PM »

well it all depends on how much you pay for one

you dont even want to know the deal i got on this baby.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #34 on:** July 04, 2014, 05:09:46 PM »

Quote from: tango911 on July 04, 2014, 05:01:33 PM

well it all depends on how much you pay for one you dont even want to know the deal i got on this baby.

You said it !

Stev-o · « **Reply #35 on:** July 04, 2014, 05:20:00 PM »

Quote from: tango911 on July 04, 2014, 05:01:33 PM

you dont even want to know the deal i got on this baby.

Actually, I do, but won't ask.

calj737 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 04, 2014, 05:35:27 PM »

You've broken some hearts already, go ahead and trample them by whispering the price

I'd never come across an opportunity like this due to not looking out for one. But I'm happy for you!

Greggo · « **Reply #37 on:** July 04, 2014, 06:00:18 PM »

Did it come with fenders and a rear wheel? Did you get the original rolled 18" rim?

I saw lots of great parts in your slideshow.

tango911 · « **Reply #38 on:** July 04, 2014, 08:16:20 PM »

In a whisper voice. 1800.00. Came with a 1000 motorcycle lift. I told him I flip bikes and parts and try to get decent deals. He offered 2000 first. I ask for 1800 he said cool. Honestly I didn't really realize it was a sandcast at first and thought I'd just double my money.

Tews19 · « **Reply #39 on:** July 04, 2014, 08:20:01 PM »

Great score! Jeeze! Honestly if it were me. I would flip....

Side note. Those 750 four emblems for the side covers. The written out ones. If they are not broken would you sell those? I could use a new set. PM me if you do please.

grcamna2 · « **Reply #40 on:** July 04, 2014, 08:22:03 PM »

Quote from: tango911 on July 04, 2014, 08:16:20 PM

In a whisper voice. 1800.00. Came with a 1000 motorcycle lift. I told him I flip bikes and parts and try to get decent deals. He offered 2000 first. I ask for 1800 he said cool. Honestly I didn't really realize it was a sandcast at first and thought I'd just double my money.

tango,it's almost like the Western Handy lift was an extra bonus gift to keep you motivated while you restore the 'sandie'

tango911 · « **Reply #41 on:** July 05, 2014, 05:07:07 PM »

What is a sandcast worth restores vs all original. If I do restore her she will be almost mint.

Tews19 · « **Reply #42 on:** July 05, 2014, 05:12:15 PM »

Imo it's an integrity thing. Let's say you never shared with the site your great find. You meticulously put her back to stock form. Only those who truly know the differences would know it isn't an original......

Greggo · « **Reply #43 on:** July 05, 2014, 05:14:44 PM »

Quote from: tango911 on July 05, 2014, 05:07:07 PM

What is a sandcast worth restores vs all original. If I do restore her she will be almost mint.

A 3-digit bike fully restored to absolute correctness should bring at least $30-40K, IMHO. I think it's harder to valuate completely original bikes because of the condition they may be in after so many years, and how much work they might need to be a rider again.

tango911 · « **Reply #44 on:** July 07, 2014, 09:00:04 AM »

Well in a year or so we will find out.

greenjeans · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2014, 06:30:30 AM »

Great find - as far as value, it all depends on the level of restoration. To me, the market over the last 5 years or so definitely prefers original bikes.

Before you go to far, I'd catalog all the parts and see what you are missing before stripping any paint. I found a sandcast a few years back that was impossibly complete. The only parts that I had to find were side covers, mirrors and emblem. Now - the bike was a rust bucket, the pipes were there and original, but not useable. I still kept them with the bike. I disassembled the entire bike and cleaned it thoroghly with kerosene. It is suprising how good they look if they are just cleaned. I got her running but I had to throw some re-pop HM300s on there (when you could still get them) There is a thread here if you get bored. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=96394.0 I got $15k for it pretty easily. Find the necessary parts, get her running and then make a decision.

If you restore it, you will have a hard time getting 30k for it unless you could find a motor in the correct range AND it is restored to a very high level - you can't skimp. The guys the buy these usually know what they are getting into. Vic World can get $30k for a restoration. MarkB, can get $30k for his when he is finished. Those prices will go up as we get farther away from 1969. You should really read through his (MarkB) thread to know the level of detail necessary for a high dollar resto - he obviously has the patience, dicipline and the attention to detail that will command a very high value. It is one of the best build threads on this forum. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=79183.0

I see too many so-called restorations where the people just paint things, but don't really spend the time to find chromers/platers that can replicate the original look with the original parts. A half-arse restoration will get you a half-arse price. New bolts and screws are not original and have differences. You really have to document things thoroughly. You might find that you would profit more without restoring (just cleaning) it vs a proper restoration.

After all that, the thing I regret most in the last 10 years or so is selling mine. At the time I needed the cash. I wish I would have figured out a way to keep it. I look everyday without fail and doubt I will ever find one again - it haunts me. The farther we get from 1969, the harder it is going to be to find them.

Good decision to keep her.

Congrats Tango - been a while since somebody has found one here. I'll be watching.

Greggo · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2014, 10:53:40 AM »

Quote from: greenjeans on July 08, 2014, 06:30:30 AM

If you restore it, you will have a hard time getting 30k for it unless you could find a motor in the correct range AND it is restored to a very high level - you can't skimp. The guys the buy these usually know what they are getting into. Vic World can get $30k for a restoration.

He has as correct of a motor anyone could hope to find, in my opinion. It's the dealer installed sandcast replacement put in after an early motor failure likely in 1969. Maybe I'm bullish on the market, but I think it's improving, and the prices will only go up the closer we get to 2019 (50th anniversary). 2 and 3-digit bikes are highly sought after. I bet $30K doesn't get you a 3-digit bike from World, but I could be wrong

I wish mine was this complete when I found it..you really scored Tango.

greenjeans · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:00:54 PM »

Oh, I think he could easily get 30k for a resto, I was just pointing out that there are many different levels of restoration. It just needs to be a good one. The motor is good - it's just the guys that buy these at those prices are finicky. It will make a difference - not really sure how much, but it will be a factor. Wonder what the going rate will be at the 50 year anniversary...$$$$$

Sure wish I had found it.

calj737 · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2014, 02:32:34 PM »

FYI - new JIS screws are still readily available so every nut, bolt and screw can be properly replaced with a NOS if needed.

Stev-o · « **Reply #49 on:** July 08, 2014, 03:08:22 PM »

Quote from: Greggo on July 08, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

Quote from: greenjeans on July 08, 2014, 06:30:30 AM
If you restore it, you will have a hard time getting 30k for it unless you could find a motor in the correct range AND it is restored to a very high level - you can't skimp. The guys the buy these usually know what they are getting into. Vic World can get $30k for a restoration.

He has as correct of a motor anyone could hope to find, in my opinion. It's the dealer installed sandcast replacement...

I respectfully disagree Greggo. The most correct motor would be the original one if it hadnt needed replacement. Since the replacement motor is not stamped with a VIN, you cannot document that it is indeed the motor the dealer installed as the replacement [unless he has paperwork].
If I were a buyer, I would not pay as much for a Sandy with a replacement motor than one with an original.

One thing we can all agree on is Tango got a once in a lifetime deal on this Sandy and he will do well.

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Author Topic: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658 (Read 8131 times)