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Offline tango911

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Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« on: July 02, 2014, 01:23:28 PM »
Hey guys, been awhile.   Just moved into the new house and am building a new shop so my buy fix flip business has been on hold but I think I found that one in 7000 or so finds, a 69 Sandcast parts lot/basket case.    The original owner said when he bought his new bike the engine went bad so they put a non vin replacement engine in his bike.  The frame vin and title say  CB750-1000658  the engine is smooth and the pipes are non stamped.   Any info you can give me is much appreciated but I will be doing some research.  The PO had recently bought new old stock seat and tons of other parts including wiring harnes and shocks.  Ill post the pics i have now but theres so many small NOS parts in bags that will take time to sort through.  I dont know if ill sell it all off or build my own 1969 CB750. Im really just taking it all in.   oh and i got a nice 1200.00 lift for 400.00 along with it.

Thanks guys!! 

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« Last Edit: July 04, 2014, 11:40:48 AM by tango911 »
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 01:25:46 PM »
SCORE!! 8)
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 01:31:09 PM »
i was here
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 02:00:16 PM »
Lucky you, Tango, your back in a big way!  The bike may have suffered a broken drive chain and a hole in the case, the dealer would have replaced it under warranty. Sometimes they stamped the engine number, obviously not on yours.  Replacement cases do not appear to be sandcast, too bad, big hit to the value. But, there is still a lot of value to it, someone may mate a numbers correct engine to that frame and bingo, big bucks. Does it have the wrinkle gas tank?   I believe the no number pipes are correct for that bike. I'm no Sandy expert, Mark and Greggo are and I'm sure they can help you.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 02:02:58 PM »
i havent checked the tank yet.  The cases look rougher than normal, so im not sure really.   This is listed in the sandcast only club sight under the original owners name.   Im just doing my searching.   thanks guys!!  Now do i part it out or build to keep.   This doesnt happen very often, if ever again.

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 02:12:38 PM »
If you've got the time, and cash  :P look for an engine to go in it.
IIWM...id put the frame up for sale to the sandcast community and go find one or six other CB's to work on  ;D
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 02:14:49 PM »
toying with the 2nd idea myself.  If i built it, id use the existing engine, it was an original replacement for that bike so it is legit or piecing it out is $$$ just as well.
« Last Edit: July 02, 2014, 02:17:02 PM by tango911 »
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 02:47:09 PM »
Personally, I wouldnt like to see it parted out. I'm sure you bought it right and can still make a tidy profit if you sell it as a package.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 02:56:10 PM »
The cases look correct,  cant see that hurting the value real bad..it would if they were diecast.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2014, 03:33:28 PM »
not sure how to tell if its diecast or sand.   the finish looks to be rougher than normall.

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2014, 03:53:24 PM »
not sure how to tell if its diecast or sand.   the finish looks to be rougher than normall.

Easiest way to tell. There are 9 clutch cover screws on a SC and 10 on all later models.

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #11 on: July 02, 2014, 04:15:32 PM »
well mine has 9  yay!
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #12 on: July 02, 2014, 04:57:54 PM »
The pad on the cases where the vin would have been stamped is the correct shape and configuration as those on a stamped sandcast case. It is raised without the border  ;) Looks like it would be worth making whole again. Congrats on the SCORE-------

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #13 on: July 02, 2014, 05:04:14 PM »
The pad on the cases where the vin would have been stamped is the correct shape and configuration as those on a stamped sandcast case. It is raised without the border  ;) Looks like it would be worth making whole again. Congrats on the SCORE-------
Agreed, it appears to be a sandcast replacement.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #14 on: July 02, 2014, 06:33:16 PM »
If you decide to sell it as is, I want 1st dibs. Keith

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2014, 06:43:52 PM »
If you decide to sell it as is, I want 1st dibs. Keith


Make him an offer, Keith!
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2014, 06:47:04 PM »
I confess: never been into the whole "factory restoration/preservation" movement. But, with this bike, even it would attempt a full nut and bolt restore. Not very common to find such a well documented machine with factory or NOS parts.

Sell it whole to someone that will preserve it, or restore it yourself, please.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2014, 07:48:16 PM »
Nice score, especially on those NOS parts...not easy to find.  I agree on the restore it, or sell it whole idea.  The non-stamped cases shouldn't affect the value significantly since they are real sandcast replacements. 

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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2014, 08:51:04 PM »
Congrats! The previous owner must have known what he had if he registered it on the SOOC site. ?
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2014, 07:01:57 AM »
Awesome find! Looks like a high miler 89xxx miles on the clock.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 07:58:51 AM »
Awesome find! Looks like a high miler 89xxx miles on the clock.
first + replacement engine mileage possibly ???
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 01:11:56 PM »
 I'd always expect it to be worth more together especially a 3 digit bike like that one.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 02:23:40 PM »
Looking Good tango,I'd bring it back to restored condition and flip it if it was me... but I'm sure you have many irons in the fire already
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2014, 06:59:19 PM »
I'm keeping it and will slowly do a correct restore.  I'll prob never have a chance to score a 3 digit bike ever again.
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Re: Sandcast Find CB750-1000658
« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2014, 07:18:21 PM »
Good decision.  Consider that part of your IRA plan, it will only go up in value.
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