Topic: Points

[Stev-o]

Who bought K&L??


I used K&L on my CB500 'cause they came with the bike, I had no issue with them.

[Tempast]

No one has said anything about the K&L kit after your first post about it.
However no one has replied to my question as to who makes the 750supply kits. If you were referencing them as a K&L kit then you should have said that because you obviously have not made it clear and the website doesn't label who it's made by anywhere.

The only points and condenser sets I have seen so far are used for under $50 and all NOS are well over $100.

[fendersrule]

My advice is to buy NOS points on eBay (I just did, got the left and right for $40). Replace the condensers when they fail. Aftermarket condensers may be "OK".

If you want to buy aftermarket points, then go for it. My experience with K&L (they are repackaged Diatchiis) and "Diatchii" is very poor.

It's been said many times so far, but any "points and condenser" kit for $50 will not be NOS honda stuff. It will be cheap aftermarket stuff.

[Tempast]

So this is what you're talking about

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HONDA-CB500-CB550-CB750-POINTS-1-4-30203-300-154-/200683321640?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2eb9a87928&vxp=mtr&_uhb=1

[fendersrule]

Yep, those are quality units. There should be a seller (or dealer) selling each side for $20 each, shipping very small.

[Tempast]

Shipping to Canada is unfortunately not that small. I'm looking at another 20 bucks shipping, and I get dinged with duty on EVERYTHING I bring through the states (averages about $25) So I'm looking at a little over $100 after taxes, duty and shipping.

[Stev-o]

Replace the condensers when fail.

So, we should just forget that Honda recommends that they should be changed every 3000 mikes and change them after we get stranded on the side of the road?

Good advice there, Fenders.

[fendersrule]

My advice is that aftermarket condensers are better than aftermarket points.

I'll bet that hondaman would agree. What's your wager?

[Deltarider]

So, we should just forget that Honda recommends that they should be changed every 3000 mikes

? Where does Honda say that?

[Old Moe Toe]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a hondaman ignition.?
Got a strange feeling I have been buying "DUD'' points as I seem to have to grind down the points plate lots to get the timing spot on.

[Stev-o]

Replace the condensers when they fail.

My advice is that aftermarket condensers are better than aftermarket points.

Your advice above was to change condensers when they fail, this is not a good recommendation and not sure why you would post it?

So now your advice is "aftermarket condensers are better than aftermarket points"?  Isn't that really a statement since they are "apples and oranges"??

[Stev-o]

So, we should just forget that Honda recommends that they should be changed every 3000 mikes

? Where does Honda say that?

On page 46 in my Clymer service manual "a complete tune up is recommended every 3000 miles or 6 months under normal conditions".

f. Condenser [capacitor]

[Retro Rocket]

My advice is that aftermarket condensers are better than aftermarket points.

Really..?  Thats not what you said at all, and thats NOT advice, its a simple statement.....

Replace the condensers when they fail. Aftermarket condensers may be "OK".

Going by you're own words "Aftermarket condensers MAY be "OK", so what is it...? Thats a lot less definitive than you're last statement, Making it up as you go along again....?
 Daiichi....NOT Diatchii  And while you try and get you're head around spelling that, go look up "restorationist"  It has NOTHING to do with motorcycles...  

Ugh, might as well be talking to a brick wall.

You should stop being such a hypocrite Fenders, you would be without doubt the most self absorbed, ignoramus on this whole site, you listen to no one and make it up as you go and you wonder why you cop sh1t... You really are one of a kind, here's some "real" advice.....stop giving advice and work on you're credibility , This is the third thread in the last week you've either straight up lied or changed you're story , stop playing the victim when you get caught out, if you don't like the responses you get then stop posting bullsh1t for everyone else to see, its quite simple really.......

[fendersrule]

Really..?  Thats not what you said at all, and thats NOT advice, its a simple statement.....

Sure it is. I'd be much more willing to replace my condensers with aftermarket units rather than to replace the points with aftermarket units. What's so conflicting about that statement?

Going by you're own words "Aftermarket condensers MAY be "OK", so what is it...? Thats a lot less definitive than you're last statement, Making it up as you go along again....?
 Daiichi....NOT Diatchii  And while you try and get you're head around spelling that, go look up "restorationist"  It has NOTHING to do with motorcycles...  

Find out for yourself. Some people have found that Daiichi condensers have failed them in a few hundred miles. Some people have ran them for years. Mine are 360 miles and counting so far, but I keep my OEM condensers in my tool kit just in case. That's where the word "may" comes up. You want me to make a guarantee on Daiichi products? No thanks. I could care less about how "Daiichi" is spelled because it's a #$%*ty product.

By the way, It's "your" and not "you're". I've never been called spelling before.

You should stop being such a hypocrite Fenders, you would be without doubt the most self absorbed, ignoramus on this whole site, you listen to no one and make it up as you go and you wonder why you cop sh1t... You really are one of a kind, here's some "real" advice.....stop giving advice and work on you're credibility , This is the third thread in the last week you've either straight up lied or changed you're story , stop playing the victim when you get caught out, if you don't like the responses you get then stop posting bullsh1t for everyone else to see, its quite simple really.......

You should stop being a massive #$%*. Maybe you should get some more "near misses" under your belt. I'm giving my advice based on experience using these products. That's right, "experience." That's the word you use copiously. So I guess now your experience is better than everyone else's? Talk about self-absorbed.

If you don't like me advising people to not buy Diiachi stuff, then that's your business. But I have a right to say that if I wish. These bikes run better with OEM parts from my experience.

I bet $100 that your next post will be off topic, just like they always are about rambling on about what everyone else thinks, how I'm stupid, and paragraphs and paragraphs of just utter crap that isn't read by anyone. Why don't you try to stay on topic more?

[Tempast]

INTERRUPTING POST.


 I like cheese.


Can we get back to the topic at hand before this thread gets closed lol.

[Retro Rocket]

Really..?  Thats not what you said at all, and thats NOT advice, its a simple statement.....

Sure it is. I'd be much more willing to replace my condensers with aftermarket units rather than to replace the points. What's so horrible about that statement?

Going by you're own words "Aftermarket condensers MAY be "OK", so what is it...? Thats a lot less definitive than you're last statement, Making it up as you go along again....?
 Daiichi....NOT Diatchii  And while you try and get you're head around spelling that, go look up "restorationist"  It has NOTHING to do with motorcycles...  

Find out for yourself. Some people have found that Daiichi have failed them in a few hundred miles. Some people have ran them for years. That's where the word "May" comes up. You want me to make a guarantee on Daiichi products? No thanks.

By the way, It's "your" and not "you're". I've never been called spelling before.

You should stop being such a hypocrite Fenders, you would be without doubt the most self absorbed, ignoramus on this whole site, you listen to no one and make it up as you go and you wonder why you cop sh1t... You really are one of a kind, here's some "real" advice.....stop giving advice and work on you're credibility , This is the third thread in the last week you've either straight up lied or changed you're story , stop playing the victim when you get caught out, if you don't like the responses you get then stop posting bullsh1t for everyone else to see, its quite simple really.......

You should stop being a massive #$%*. Maybe you should get some more "near misses" under your belt and keep riding like a zombie. I'm giving my advice based on experience using these products.

If you don't like me telling people to not buy Diiachi stuff, then that's your business. But I have a right to say that if I wish.

Hahahaha you are so funny Fenders ans sooooo full of sh1t, you just confirm it with every post, your posts are full of spelling mistakes but thats wasn't even the point, but i'll get another laugh out of you being a spelling expert as well....  , you missed the point as usual, as with your last statement, nothing you suggest  was implied at all,  I know all about Daiichi points, they are not what i would use as i prefer electronic ignitions, they are far superior, but the Daiichi points can be made usable and tolerances vary but that has nothing to do with anything I said. and if you think i'm an #$%* for pointing out your lies, deceit and arrogance and sheer stupidity at times, then so be it, i don't really care at all, remember, you are the  fool that keeps posting the rubbish you post, if you don't like the responses then stop speaking sh1t..
When you get out the dictionary to look up "restorationist" I suggest you look up "experienced" as well, you easily confuse an experience with experienced, two totally different animals.... 

[Retro Rocket]

INTERRUPTING POST.


 I like cheese.


Can we get back to the topic at hand before this thread gets closed lol.

I like cheese too....    Buy the TEC points or if you never want to touch the ignition again then get a Pamcoe, boyer or other electronic ignition...

[Tempast]

My dads going to go to a local shop soon and get Honda ones. Maybe someday on another bike ill test some aftermarket ones. But this is my DD and I need it as reliable as possible (funny that, its been so reliable that it got me to work on 1.5 cyls and I have missmatched points)

[Deltarider]

On page 46 in my Clymer service manual "a complete tune up is recommended every 3000 miles or 6 months under normal conditions".

f. Condenser [capacitor]

Ah... I see, but I think they mean check and not necessarily replace.
Quite a heated debate about Daichi breakerpoints here. I seem to remember somebody once posted you had Daichi imitations. All shops overhere that are specialized in parts for our bikes trade Daichi points. Can't remember if I ever read complaints about them. I still ride my TEC and they live forever.
I remember Honda used to advertise to buy genuine Honda parts.