Topic: Sad cat story

[faux fiddy]

Not sure how to deal with this, but there has been a young cat at my friends house. It came in the doggy door a month or more ago, and constantly wanders through the garage.  The night it came in the doggy door it caused a ruccus with the dog, of course,  woke me up really early to a predictament. Surprisingly It  was docile when we caught it to  put it out, with no claws or fangs. I had no idea whose cat it was , but it was someone's, so I made a collar out of masking tape and wrote in it "Please keep your cat inside." or something like that. Didn't think much more of it, and continued to see it come into the garage, in fact last night I think I saw it charge out of there when I turned on the light.


Well this morning I guess it became known whose cat it was as someone had shot it with a pellet gun, and I didn't get the whole story, but I guess it made it home before it died.  I had nothing to do with it, but I hear there was a mention of the note taped to it as a masking tape collar. Now the two events, the tape collar and the pellet are completely unrelated, but the owner can't know that.  I'm not one to say I told you so to the dead cat's owner , but after having a guest cat come cruising in and cause a commotion with a dog, well I feel like my suggestion was valid.

Not sure what to think or what else will precipitate.....not sure if I will volunteer that I had written the note or the reason I did.

[dave500]

hide your pellet gun.

[calj737]

And don't use the word "plan" when discussing the deceased cat with the owner. It will make words like "premeditated" get bandied about in court 

[shark]

Never speak of this again.

You saw nothing, you no nothing.

[DH]

You tried to tell 'em, right? Nothing wrong with that. Cat got shot, but de-clawed cat shouldn't be out
loose in the first place. They are defenseless. Irresponsible owner. Not to
sound cold, I'd leave it at that.

[switchum]

It is a sad story.   And I don't like  one bit to know that irresponsible owners like your neighbors.  I am strongly against declawing. You know it is against laws everywhere in the globe  but in the US? Letting them out unattended always comes with danger even if they have claws.  Heck one time,  one of my cats got out and bit by neighbor’s dog and my cat bit me from the shock when I tried to rescue him from the dog. I had to go to hospital as my face was swollen up. I did not get mad at anyone by myself. I hope your poop head neighbor knows that.

Having said that,  Who the heck freaking shoot friendly animals with a pellet gun when you can shoo them off with a water hose or a spray gun with diluted vinegar in it.

I want to prank your both neighbors in my basement for hours.

[calj737]

I don't interpret his description of the cat having been de-clawed, only that the cat was not aggressive; didn't show his fangs or claws when he went to pick it up.

But, yeah, a declawed cat should not be outdoors.

I'm no fan of a domestic cat. They are the only species of wild animal that kills despite hunger. They will kill to kill, even if they've been fed. They can do enormous damage to small game populations (look at the enormous population of feral cats in FL). They destroy entire species of lesser animals, and yet there are boneheads that continue to "feed" these feral populations.

A domesticated animal should be kept mind odors except to exercise or defecate. But owners who permit their cat or dog out at night to roam, well, they put their animals life at risk. I've had problems with neighbors dogs eating my chickens, quail and ducks. Infuriates me. Some acorns via a slingshot have helped when I witness their presence, but I can't be there 24x7. That same dog met a tragic fate via automobile and the driver then successfully held the pet owner responsible for the damage. Justice!

[demon78]

Why in the name  of whatever deity would de-claw an animal the size of a cat if you do that, it's mobile dinner for every thing. It's bad enough that there are idiots that sic their dogs on them and the people with pellet guns are special #$%*s. I've always thought that some thing slightly larger than a Maine coon cat would be handy to run dogs off but then people would whine about your cat ate my dog. As far as the pellet gun goes I've got a problem with a bunny that's competing with me for my vegetables and I'm reluctant to use the P/G on it because I'll have dispose of the corpse and no I don't like rabbit, but if the SOB eats more of the veg bye bye bunny.
Bill the demon.

[faux fiddy]

Never speak of this again.

You saw nothing, you no nothing.

Well that's the current plan.

You tried to tell 'em, right? Nothing wrong with that. Cat got shot, but de-clawed cat shouldn't be out
loose in the first place. They are defenseless. Irresponsible owner. Not to
sound cold, I'd leave it at that.

I didn't mean to say the cat was de-clawed, In fact I didn't notice. I just know it didn't scratch the sh8 out of me when fashioned a masking tape collar or I tried to put it out and had no problem with being held in a way that it would not escape.

I do know it could get up a tree or over a fence so it probably wasn't de-clawed.

hide your pellet gun.

My pellet gun is just a one pump imitation .45 that usually has bb's and can't penetrate skin, I know because I use it to keep the squirrels off the bird feeders. A friend tested it on me once. I keep it at my house  four blocks away, and as far as hiding it, well I'm not sure where to find it so I could hide it..

[BeSeeingYou]

I have three cats and they do go outside but I have trained them to stay in the yard...wasn't easy and the fence helps too.  I have had cats for many, many years and from my experience the amount of wildlife domestic cats kill is greatly exaggerated.  They do have a finely honed hunting instinct but the kill behavior is something they learn.  I can observe this when I play with them.  We have this toy, it's a "bird" (feathers) on a string with a wand and I fly it around the house.  Two of them just bat it around but the grey one he catches it and bites hard, the neck breaking kill bite.   My grey tabby was feral at one time so if he catches anything it does not survive but the other two seldom kill anything they catch and I have no problem getting the victim free and letting them loose across the street in the woods.  If they show any sign of injury we have a wildlife rehab center  that takes them in.   I could count on one hand the number of creatures my cats kill in the course of a summer.  The toll so far this summer is one bird.  They are so proud they have to try and bring it in the house so I know.  The other two on rare occasion bring live creatures into the house if I am not vigilant at checking them at the door.  My white cat has caught 4 mice so far this summer but they all survived the experience.  They only go out when we are out with them so we do keep tabs on them.  They all ignore the squirrels and rabbits.  Years ago  my tuxedo cat Boris caught a bluejay and as he ran across the yard with the bird in his mouth the mate dove down and attacked Boris freeing it's mate and they both flew off.
Feral cats I am sure take a larger toll but the best way to control them is to capture them and spay or neuter them and release.  Killing or trapping does not work as others will just move in to fill the void.

[Retro Rocket]

from my experience the amount of wildlife domestic cats kill is greatly exaggerated

Thats an interesting point of view from you Steve, you come across as a bit of a greenie so i didn't expect that. Over here feral cats are a massive problem, I used to hunt them in NSW, In Queensland they are growing up to and over 40 pounds, they are killing machines as Cal said earlier, the only animal apart from Humans that kill for fun. It depends on the cat but i have seen domestic cats wipe out every living thing within hunting distance from where they live and not just small prey, our possums are savage as hell and quite large and still get killed by cats, I'm sick and tired of picking up dead birds and possums from my yard because my friggin neighbor can't keep his 2 cats inside, they both have bells on their necks and still manage to kill, the only good use for a cat is in a crab pot...

[trueblue]

from my experience the amount of wildlife domestic cats kill is greatly exaggerated

Thats an interesting point of view from you Steve, you come across as a bit of a greenie so i didn't expect that. Over here feral cats are a massive problem, I used to hunt them in NSW, In Queensland they are growing up to and over 40 pounds, they are killing machines as Cal said earlier, the only animal apart from Humans that kill for fun. It depends on the cat but i have seen domestic cats wipe out every living thing within hunting distance from where they live and not just small prey, our possums are savage as hell and quite large and still get killed by cats, I'm sick and tired of picking up dead birds and possums from my yard because my friggin neighbor can't keep his 2 cats inside, they both have bells on their necks and still manage to kill, the only good use for a cat is in a crab pot...

But you have to singe the hair first

[Retro Rocket]

from my experience the amount of wildlife domestic cats kill is greatly exaggerated

Thats an interesting point of view from you Steve, you come across as a bit of a greenie so i didn't expect that. Over here feral cats are a massive problem, I used to hunt them in NSW, In Queensland they are growing up to and over 40 pounds, they are killing machines as Cal said earlier, the only animal apart from Humans that kill for fun. It depends on the cat but i have seen domestic cats wipe out every living thing within hunting distance from where they live and not just small prey, our possums are savage as hell and quite large and still get killed by cats, I'm sick and tired of picking up dead birds and possums from my yard because my friggin neighbor can't keep his 2 cats inside, they both have bells on their necks and still manage to kill, the only good use for a cat is in a crab pot...

But you have to singe the hair first

What..!!, you don't chop them up into quarters...?   

[calj737]

Best bumper sticker I've seen: If you're missing your cat, look under my truck tires.

As much as I dislike cats normally, my wife and daughter accepted an older cat from a friend who was moving abroad for a few years. Of course, I was livid. And yet, this particular cat (stays outdoors fully) is either old enough or docile enough and doesn't kill jack. Even our hatches of new chicks are safe. So, I will freely admit, not all cats are a problem, but the breed as a rule is.

To make matters worse, my neighbor has two Sibreians. The coolest cats I ever seen, and they too roam, but don't molest our birds anymore. The male got a small batch of chicks about a year ago, but has somehow learned to leave them be. Friendly little cats, cool looking, and loads of laughs. But they do intermittently take down mice and moles, and black birds. Not a lot, but some.

But killing is in their nature, no 2 ways about it.

[trueblue]

Still my favourite picture on the internet

[demon78]

I've lived with cats all my life I was going to say had cats all my life but that's not the way it is and some were deadly predators others if it didn't come out of a can ecch and it is funny that one (Snavelly) couldn't catch leaves but had to be the spiritual beginnings of all Ninja warriors a big fat fluffy black cat that moved so fast when he was fighting another cat that it was like smoke, you only saw the after images, yet normally docile and dopey, if he'd been human you'd say bumbling.
Olly wasn't a fighter and also dopey, his idea of fighting was keep on going until one of you falls over, he's the loser you're the winner (which is OK until the vet bill comes in) and his historic encounters with various skunks were famous to the point where I wasn't sure at one point if I should let him out any more in the fall although I think the last time was that he ran around the corner of the building and ran into the skunk and couldn't get clear before he got sprayed. On the other side if it was a snake that was different I have never seen any thing that excellent at killing a snake before or since, it was dance,  dance, go left, go right, dance a little closer, snake strikes, snakes neck is broken from behind as cat goes past and if it's big enough cat is sinking it's teeth in the back of the head all in the space of less than 2 minutes. The other thing is I've had cats that brought home trophies of all their kills and that was hard on the small wild life and now that I'm trying (very poorly) to grow food for the winter it would be handy to have something that would stop the mice, moles and rabbits, any how it's all about where you are and what's needed whether cats are useful or a pain in the ass.
Bill the demon.

[ofreen]

Cats are like dogs, horses, people, etc. Some are great, some are a waste of protoplasm. We've had a couple of exceptional cats, others had the personalities of stumps. Cats are useful fo have around the porch. They keep the birds from coming around and #$%*ting on everything. And a gopher killing cat is priceless. The neighbor's cat comes over and #$%*s on our lawn, which normally would irritate me no end, but I've watched the cat in action against gophers, so I cut it a lot of slack.

[demon78]

Yes if the cat is part of a useful team then it's valued..
Bill the demon.

[dave500]

I couldn't help myself.
rodney rude sings i hate cats

[vfourfreak]

Well, I like my cat, Koshka. More loyal than many humans. And yes, despite me feeding her, she brings back "trophies" but I think that's just nature.

Kev

[faux fiddy]

Some cats are just not as social as others, even down right nasty. I think the one that was shot was one of the more sociable ones.

Sad Cat Story brings back a memory of one of my parents friends who had a neighbor's cat crawl up into their nice warm engine compartment. The described the gawd awful noise it made when they started the car. They delivered it back to the neighbors in a black plastic trash bag, and since  infants were around when they delivered it to the door, they spelled out what was in the bag. Here is your C-A-T as they handed them the bag.

[Retro Rocket]

Well, I like my cat, Koshka. More loyal than many humans. And yes, despite me feeding her, she brings back "trophies" but I think that's just nature.

Kev

It may be nature where you live Kev but in Australia we don't have any native cats, what we do have is a weird and wonderful collection of small and medium sized marsupials, and the cats mow them down like weeds, not to mention the lizards like blue tongues, skinks and bearded dragons {not the cranky b1tch next door}   

[grcamna2]

Some cats are just not as social as others, even down right nasty. I think the one that was shot was one of the more sociable ones.

Sad Cat Story brings back a memory of one of my parents friends who had a neighbor's cat crawl up into their nice warm engine compartment. The described the gawd awful noise it made when they started the car. They delivered it back to the neighbors in a black plastic trash bag, and since  infants were around when they delivered it to the door, they spelled out what was in the bag. Here is your C-A-T as they handed them the bag.

Your first post made me sad fiddy but the second really hurt to read;I'm allergic to cats and always have been but they're animals & they have rights too.I just hope when someone adopts any animal that they make a life long commitment or at least do their 'dead level best' to;I highly respect some folks and they're adoption big hearts. I've seen well cared for animals and met some of their caretaker/owners I've always enjoyed the experience. 

[BeSeeingYou]

I'm no fan of a domestic cat. They are the only species of wild animal that kills despite hunger. They will kill to kill, even if they've been fed. They can do enormous damage to small game populations ...... They destroy entire species of lesser animals,

Sounds familiar to another species we all know.  How do you feel about them?

29th Scroll 6th Verse

[calj737]

Oh, I'm a huge fan of man, just not cats! I've seen far greater goodness from men than ever from a cat. And as for being impressed by prophecies from a Sci-if, movie no thanks. I'll stick to my Good Book. But appreciate the offer-