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CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« on: July 17, 2014, 09:39:42 PM »
Any body interested in a CR750 style triple clamps. I wanted to design a top clamp that looks like a cast CR750 clamp. I don't mind taking a stock CB clamp and grinding it down and welding but I thought it would be nice to have something I know will be strong and not compromised. I'm hoping there are others here on the forum who are interested in going in together to offset the cost.
Making one part is obviously more expensive than making multiples.
If we get enough people interested, I'll send out the part for a quote.
Please PM me if you are interested.   
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 10:19:01 PM »
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2014, 06:13:20 AM »
I would think there would be lots of interest if the offsets and tube sizes were made for GL replacements. It seems to be a very common upgrade to the 750 for dual discs.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 06:50:53 AM »
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2014, 02:35:58 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on July 18, 2014, 06:13:20 AM
I would think there would be lots of interest if the offsets and tube sizes were made for GL replacements. It seems to be a very common upgrade to the 750 for dual discs.

I would agree.  Your design has a better profile than the block billet one from DCC.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2014, 03:42:16 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on July 18, 2014, 06:13:20 AM
I would think there would be lots of interest if the offsets and tube sizes were made for GL replacements. It seems to be a very common upgrade to the 750 for dual discs.

If all sizes were variable it would be even better....width, offset and fork sizes... ;D   Perfect world anyone.... ;)
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 07:54:14 PM »
Hey Guys,

I'm new to the forum world so please bare with me in regards to my slow response. I thought I checked the box that automatically sends a notification to my email when someone comments on this post. I guess failed to do so.

CB750 Cafe Racer Fan, thanks for the compliment!

calj737, Do you happen to know the offsets by chance? I'll also do some research but maybe you have those specs already. It wouldn't be hard to modify the design to accommodate the GL offset.
What year GL would you recommend? I'm assuming you're talking about a GL1000.

Thanks,
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 10:59:27 PM »
Quote from: Dreamer on July 21, 2014, 07:54:14 PM
Hey Guys,

I'm new to the forum world so please bare with me in regards to my slow response. I thought I checked the box that automatically sends a notification to my email when someone comments on this post. I guess failed to do so.

CB750 Cafe Racer Fan, thanks for the compliment!

calj737, Do you happen to know the offsets by chance? I'll also do some research but maybe you have those specs already. It wouldn't be hard to modify the design to accommodate the GL offset.
What year GL would you recommend? I'm assuming you're talking about a GL1000.

Thanks,

The 75-77 GL1000.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 06:48:27 AM »
I'd let Retro provide the best offset formulas. He's got heaps more knowledge than me on which/what 750 offset packages are most desired.

Oh, Retro! Of course, CB750CRF has got tons too, so he's another great source. Don?
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 08:24:00 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on July 22, 2014, 06:48:27 AM
I'd let Retro provide the best offset formulas. He's got heaps more knowledge than me on which/what 750 offset packages are most desired.

Oh, Retro! Of course, CB750CRF has got tons too, so he's another great source. Don?

I would say that maintains stock offset would be preferred:
50mm for a 750F
60mm for a 750K
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 08:27:20 AM »
Any changes to tube diameters, CB?
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 08:30:41 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on July 22, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
Any changes to tube diameters, CB?

The tubes on the the GL forks are 37mm (up from the 35mm forks on all CB750 and CB550 models). I don't know the fork to fork spacing measurement, but I'm fairly certain that the forks are spaced wider apart on the GL than the CB750.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 12:45:19 PM »
Quote from: CB750 Cafe Racer Fan on July 22, 2014, 08:24:00 AM
Quote from: calj737 on July 22, 2014, 06:48:27 AM
I'd let Retro provide the best offset formulas. He's got heaps more knowledge than me on which/what 750 offset packages are most desired.

Oh, Retro! Of course, CB750CRF has got tons too, so he's another great source. Don?

I would say that maintains stock offset would be preferred:
50mm for a 750F
60mm for a 750K

Yeah, if everything else is stock stay with the stock offsets... ;)
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 08:27:57 PM »
1975-1977 GL with stock offset.  Cool, thanks for the feedback!
Looks like I'll have to buy a GL front end from ebay for test fitting.
Does anyone hear know the distance between the fork tubes on the GL's?


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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2014, 09:34:03 PM »
First of all, let me replace the word hear with here, from my last post  :'(

I just purchased a 1975 GL 1000 top clamp from ebay. Once I receive the clamp, I'll start modeling a CR style clamp for the GL conversion. Maybe this will get more interest.

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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2014, 06:50:46 AM »
I appreciate that you are pursuing a CR type of top clamp, but I will say that the style of inverted ears on the tubes, makes it very difficult to mount gauges within the "V" as a clustered pair. What tends to result is gauges that are not straight to the eyeline.

So if you do venture on to make these, I'd love to see you give some real thought to gauge mounting options, unless that is completely contrary to the styling intent.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2014, 06:35:33 PM »
Hi CB750 Cafe Racer Fan,

 Thanks for the insight. I personally would prefer a clamp without instrument mounts, but I do see how most people would want them. It wouldn't be too hard to add that feature and have both options available.
Would you recommend I use the stock configuration for the mounts?

Thanks,

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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2014, 07:37:09 PM »
Quote from: Dreamer on July 24, 2014, 06:35:33 PM
Hi CB750 Cafe Racer Fan,

 Thanks for the insight. I personally would prefer a clamp without instrument mounts, but I do see how most people would want them. It wouldn't be too hard to add that feature and have both options available.
Would you recommend I use the stock configuration for the mounts?

Thanks,

Ryan

Hi Ryan,

I think that was Cal's comment.  The DCC top triple tree has optional mounting brackets to fit the stock gauges on the bike -- two mounts that bolt into the bottom and then bolt onto the stock gauge carrier.  I would think that would be a good option.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2014, 10:22:24 PM »
Oops sorry about that.
Cool, Ill check out DCC's clamps and see if their system would be a good fit for this design.

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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2014, 08:47:34 PM »
Hi all,

Just wanted to give a quick update. I've decided to take on the task of machining the clamps myself. Here is a picture of the fixture setup I have worked out so far.

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« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2014, 11:40:22 PM »
Quote from: Dreamer on July 26, 2014, 08:47:34 PM
Hi all,

Just wanted to give a quick update. I've decided to take on the task of machining the clamps myself. Here is a picture of the fixture setup I have worked out so far.

For those of us who are not initiated on machining, how does the fixture work?  Is it akin to a jig?
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2014, 03:44:21 AM »
Nice fixture design.  One can machine most of the surfaces using that. 
Computer design certainly does come in handy. 

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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2014, 08:58:54 AM »
Very nice fixture..
 Fixture holds workpiece..
 Jigs, guide cutting tools,  ie drilling hole in specific location..
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2014, 11:25:54 PM »
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the positive feedback! I think 754 pretty much nailed it with his description of what a fixture is. Ive made a little more progress. Just refining the fixture a bit while waiting for my new slitting saw to arrive. Here is a pic of the fixture positioned in the vise while a slitting saw cuts the slit for the clamp.
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Re: CR 750 Style Triple Clamp
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2014, 11:36:26 PM »
Quick update on the CR750 style top clamp.
I've just made my first attempt at machining the part. Here's a picture of the bottom side of the top clamp.
The next step will be to machine the top side. The last step will be machining the slits and the holes for the clamping bolts.
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