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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2014, 10:34:27 AM »
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I have a question.

You're taking these bikes apart to get them into your basement and said that taking the engine out made it light enough to carry down the stairs.  So how do you plan to get them out of the basement once they're restored and reassembled?  ::)

Option (a) knocking out a wall and renting an excavator;

Option (b) calling all of your friends to lift that unwieldy hunk of metal up the stairs.
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2014, 10:54:20 AM »
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I have a question.

You're taking these bikes apart to get them into your basement and said that taking the engine out made it light enough to carry down the stairs.  So how do you plan to get them out of the basement once they're restored and reassembled?  ::)

Option (a) knocking out a wall and renting an excavator;

Option (b) calling all of your friends to lift that unwieldy hunk of metal up the stairs.
or maybe Option (c)  put plywood on the stairs and ride them up!  :)
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2014, 10:58:48 AM »
I vote for option C.   And get it on video!
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2014, 01:33:15 PM »
I want to see that, too!!  :o
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2014, 04:40:25 PM »
Perhaps I'm missing something, but I have a question.

You're taking these bikes apart to get them into your basement and said that taking the engine out made it light enough to carry down the stairs.  So how do you plan to get them out of the basement once they're restored and reassembled?  ::)

Same way I did my 350f, get about 6 of my friends and lift the engine in the frame back out an reassemble after.  I only took the engine out and carried it and the rest down because no-one was available to help me. 
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2014, 04:51:55 PM »
When you carry the engine upstairs again, use some 3/8" rod passed through the upper, rear, motor hangar slot. Use 2-3' long piece. Do the same on front using the motor mount holes. This allows 2-4 people to carry more easily. 2 up the stairs, 4 when you have the room. Much easier!

You can often buy stock length of threaded rod at the home center, look in the fasteners section. There's usually a bin of different diameters, and differing lengths. Runs about $5

Good idea!  But this engine won't be going anywhere, its the engine out of the 500 that was shot,  The jugs and top end are fine though.  Im just getting used to working on them thats why i have been working on it.
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2014, 06:57:59 AM »
Alright guys, I have been doing allot of thinking and prioritizing and I think I finally have a decent plan for these bikes and the project through the winter. More of a "Life Happens" realization.  Being 20 and in college still, as much as I love collecting, I dont need or have the room for 3 or 4 bikes.  My thoughts are that I will keep my 350F as I love that little rice rocket, and also keep the 500 with the 550 engine as that bike was damn near perfect except for the engine.  This project is going to cover two bikes at once, Swapping the 550 engine from the parts bike I pick up this week into the 500 and making her the best looking cruiser I can, I also will continue to restore the purple 550 mostly just cleaning it up and making it complete and using the parts off it I really want.  Then ride it a little and sell her off in the spring :(

I know I had said I wanted to make a cafe racer and keep all 4 bikes, but maybe Ill get my hands on one another winter!  Just figured I would let you all know the plans since this has kinda been all over the place!  Im still in school working like crazy at a Boatyard here in Baltimore and Im trying to eventually go to trade school for Marine Mechanics, as my other love is the water.  Still excited about the builds and I hope you guys will hang in there with me and help out like always! Here we go......Feel free to recommend anything!  This will be allot so Ill try to be clear!

71 Cb500 with a 77 Cb550 Engine: This one will be my Baby. Should I get into trade school I will be riding it from Baltimore to PA about 2 hours, so I literally don't want to have to worry about anything!

-Pull 550 motor from parts bike, valve adjustment (need help on that), possibly replace head gasket. Swap back in
-Paint motor, possible jugs black and breather cover black,  still undecided.
-Use the 500 carb racks as they were just rebuilt with all new parts (advise me on this)
-Paint 500 frame
-Hondaman Fuse-Holder, complete Dynatek Electronic Ignition, Coils, Red Wires, Advancer Box, NGK plug caps
-Drilled rotor, Rebuild brakes, Pads, Stainless Steel Brake Lines
-Polished Engine Side Covers
-Clean and polish the 4into2 trumpet exhaust that came with the 500
-HD Clutch Springs
-Tach/Speedo Backlighting same way I did on the 350f, looks amazing at night.
-Tach/Speedo Cables
-Avon Tires and correct rear rim (one that came with the 500 is a wide Harley rim)
-Little things like grips, air-filters, battery.

73 Cb550:
-Restore to a more complete ridable bike and sell in the spring using the 77 that I took the motor from as a parts bike. I was told the 77 parts bike has a king and queen seat on it, so maybe ill use that and since this has those tallboy handle bars on it already maybe Ill swap the wide harley rim in and dedicate it as a old school street cruiser.  remember this bike will not be my focus because I wont be keeping it, But I would like it out by spring. 





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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2014, 07:46:20 AM »
Hi Tyler, You sure 'have your work cut out for you'  8) I'm glad to hear you're keeping the CB350F & that nice green CB500 & installing the correct 18" rear wheel and getting a CB550 engine also ! The purple one is a nice bike also
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2014, 08:24:45 AM »
Hi Tyler, You sure 'have your work cut out for you'  8) I'm glad to hear you're keeping the CB350F & that nice green CB500 & installing the correct 18" rear wheel and getting a CB550 engine also ! The purple one is a nice bike also

Thats why I'm starting in August instead of January like last time!  Yep I'm glad I'm holding on to it as well, I don't feel as ripped as I did when I found out the transmission was shot.  Yep I think someone will take a liking to that purple when after I"m done with it, heck maybe Ill even make some money!
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2014, 08:14:52 PM »
Still having trouble getting ahold of the owner of the other 550 so I can take delivery, hopefully he will come through for me.  But I Decided Im going to take the 500 down to the frame and build up from there with the 550 power plant.  Just trying to get a head start I started with the front brakes that were never very good anyway.  Unfortunately I Broke off the bleeder valve in the process.  Good thing I will have the other 550's brakes I can switch. 





Looks to be some rough rust inside the brake system: Im looking into the stainless braided brake lines.









Im going to try and take the forks off soon, along with all the front end components, Possibly replace the steering head bearings.  Any advice on that?  Little worried about that, I have no clue how to do this part.  Isn't there a thread here for me to Download a shop manual somewhere?? Any help would be appreciated!

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2014, 10:01:32 PM »
Check out Dino's video on his 750 bearings and bushings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da_ZenYu4Xo
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #61 on: September 11, 2014, 06:39:15 AM »
Thanks Cal!  Where is the dampener rod and how do you refill these shocks?  Never done this before don't yell ;D
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2014, 07:51:05 AM »
Inspect your fork tubes for pitting. If there is pitting in the portion of the fork tube that travels into the lower stanchion, it will tear up the fork seal. No bueno.

Some new tools you will need if you don't have them: a precise measure for volume in millimeters and a pair of circlips to remove the internal circlip that holds in the fork seal.

Along with the washer Cal mentioned, take care with the circlips. You will need to reuse them.
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2014, 11:01:01 AM »
im in
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2014, 04:57:03 PM »

 Where is the dampener rod and how do you refill these shocks? 


Just curious, do you have a service manual? If yes, do you ever look at it??
If no, I will buy you one!
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2014, 06:26:32 PM »
Just curious, do you have a service manual? If yes, do you ever look at it??
If no, I will buy you one!
Magnanimous of you, Stev-o. Aren't they free to download from this site? I bet you are the most generous guy at the Open Bar!
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They are but I figure if he had a hard copy he could put it in the crapper and study a little every day rather than ask you every little question!  ha!!
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2014, 08:02:08 PM »
Just curious, do you have a service manual? If yes, do you ever look at it??
If no, I will buy you one!
Magnanimous of you, Stev-o. Aren't they free to download from this site? I bet you are the most generous guy at the Open Bar!
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They are but I figure if he had a hard copy he could put it in the crapper and study a little every day rather than ask you every little question!  ha!!

Nope I don't have one, I have planned to get one, but was focusing on getting the bikes right now,  I don't think he minds if i ask questions anyway.  Thats what your all here for ;D
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2014, 08:12:28 PM »
Just curious, do you have a service manual? If yes, do you ever look at it??
If no, I will buy you one!
Magnanimous of you, Stev-o. Aren't they free to download from this site? I bet you are the most generous guy at the Open Bar!
 ;D

They are but I figure if he had a hard copy he could put it in the crapper and study a little every day rather than ask you every little question!  ha!!

Nope I don't have one, I have panned to get one, but was focusing on getting the bikes right now,  I don't think he minds if i ask questions anyway.  Thats what your all here for ;D

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2014, 10:07:46 AM »
OK so the owner is still MIA on the other 550 I wanted the Engine out of, SOOOOO until I hear from him, I guess This engine will be used for the swap.  Not something I wanted to do, If thats the case I won't be building a Old School Cruiser to sell since I need the engine.  Not Happy, but Im going to be Blowing up his phone!

Anyway, I figured its a long winter why not make the engine look good and ease the pain of painting in the frame.  Pulled the purple 550 engine.  For some reason it was much easier then the 500.  Getting pretty good at this!!  I want to buy the Harbor Freight Engine Stand, and modify it to fit a SOHC4 as some members here have. 



Looks like Ill need a new Tach Gear, I have to go to the salvage yard tomorrow to pick up the 350F after a Idle issue and carb since anyway so I'm sure ill find one!





#1 Plug looked like someone had bent it in....



Still have the 500 engine disassembled, If anyone wants any of it, let me know!



Electric panel on the 550 is a little dusty but not tampered with.



Unsure of what to do about the gauges.  The 500's are small and skinny like the smaller Fours, but will they work with a 550 Engine?  The 500's look much better the the 550's though.  I saw member "Tews" had a decent set for 45$ And 4into1 sell new ones for 99$ each.  Don't know where Ill go with this, but definetly will install led backlights in them from DCC just like I did on the 350F

500....


550....


Points Plate is pretty clean to. 

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #69 on: September 15, 2014, 08:21:51 PM »
A few guys were asking me about parts and the salvage yard, I went to pick up the 350f today and Snapped some pictures,  Its crazy in there...







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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #70 on: September 15, 2014, 08:42:07 PM »
Wow.  That's a treasure trove, but looks like you have to climb though a lot of stuff to find what you need.
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2014, 08:51:53 PM »
Wow.  That's a treasure trove, but looks like you have to climb though a lot of stuff to find what you need.

Its Treasure alright, I would love to just walk around pick stuff up to buy, but due to insurance you have to tell the owner what your looking for and he will go get it, your not even allowed inside past here.  Coolest place in Baltimore hands down!
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #72 on: September 15, 2014, 09:49:46 PM »
I like the look of that salvage yard Tyler  8) How are his prices compared to Ebay,etc.?
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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #73 on: September 16, 2014, 04:10:48 AM »
I like the look of that salvage yard Tyler  8) How are his prices compared to Ebay,etc.?

Take 50% off the regular parts ebay has, but he will sell complete motors as well.  Excellent people to work with.
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 350F project-http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=133079.0

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Re: Two 550's and a 500. Home stretch now
« Reply #74 on: September 16, 2014, 05:03:16 AM »
Where in b-more is the salvage yard? I'm local and would love to see that. Trying to assemble a 73 350f myself ;D.



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