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'78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« on: August 18, 2014, 03:45:26 PM »
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I've recently joined these forums because this summer I bought an unrestored '78 CB750K. The PO said that it only needed a pair of new carb boots as the ones on it was dried up and it had issues syncing because of it. It also needed some water and degreaser. He also mentioned that it had gotten regular service. Perfect bike for me, as it fitted my mechanical experience (very little), but gave me a chance to build some as it was an old bike. I've also only been looking at these, so there was no way around learning everything.

I've attached pictures from the first ride and the first wash. As you can see from the second, it turned out to be more than a wash. I discovered it has had a bit of creative customization from the PO, which was not all good, to be honest. He'd also been creative with matte black paint cans here and there.

So, my to-do/shopping list now consists of the following:

Frame:
Sand blast and powder coat frame and swingarm, at least. There might be more added to this, but it depends on some other decisions along the way.

New front fender:
The old one is rusted to the point that it needs replacement. Been looking at CB750cafe.com which has fenders in fibreglass.

Replace turn signal+front light mount:
The front light mount is also rusted, not to the point of not being able to restore, but I want them to be separate as I might install motogadget turn signals some time in the future. I think I might go for someone that are smaller and preferably LED in the meantime.

Replace fork brace+brake signal switch+brake fluid line:
I believe I've seen another bike with the brake light switch mounted with the brake lever mount and with the brake line in one line. I've also been looking at a pair of tarozzi fork braces, but I'm not sure about which to use yet. I think I need some input on this before I start spending, though.

Handlebars+throttle+levers+lever mounts+grips+handlebar switches:
Had to remove old grips as they used to be heated. PO had cut the wire, but the switch+wire was still on the bike. As the grips came off (after cutting them off with a knife because of excessive use of glue) I found that the original handlebar was rusted on the inside. The throttle had also been modified to fit the grips so that has to be replaced as well. Levers, mounts and hb switches are not a "must do", but more of a "want to do".

I've been looking at Motion Pro's push/pull throttle w/ cables. Any experiences with that?

For handlebars I'm undecided except I know I do not want clip-ons or clubman. There's probably a forum post dedicated to it somewhere. I have not yet been able to look at every dark corner of this forum (yet!). :)

I might keep the old handlebar switches, as I'm looking at Motogadget for the future. They have some nice (and expensive) solutions. Open for suggestion if someone knows of something better than the stock ones.

Gauges:
Top cover sprayed with paint. Looks ugly. Going to try to refurbish before buying new.

Tank:
Have not checked for rust, but very little on the outside. Need to change the rubber mounts, as they are falling apart. Needs new logos.

Seat:
This was maybe the biggest disappointment, as it looked decent when I inspected the bike at the PO's. After a few trips and a good wash I realized it was falling apart in the stitching and that the foam also does not look good in certain places. I've been looking to get a new flat seat from tuffside.com, but I think that would also require me to modify the frame. Anyone here with experience with those seats?

Engine:
Luckily, it seems like (fingers crossed) the engine only needs to have the chain tightened (it rattles a bit on low gears), and I need to change a few cracked covers(L. RR. CRANKCASE, COVER, CRANKCASE TRANSMISSION). I've also been looking at a stainless steel bolt set to change old bolts to give it a facelift. And, I know someone who used to work as a Honda mechanic who has offered to help rebuild it if I want to. I should glass blast it if it comes to that, as well as buy a gasket kit for it.

I'd love to hear anyone else's experiences with engine rebuilds, but I will also look further at the forum.

Change carb boots:
They are done. Ordered new on eBay for $40.

Change air filters:
Change the air box to pods from K&N, they say. How much will it improve the performance? Worth it?

Wire harness++:
The harness has been modified to the point that it needs replacement. I think this is the only thing I will have to get some assistance, as I am afraid my head will explode if I start with it. There is something strange happening with the wiring going back, as there are wires that should be connected to something that are not. I have not been able to look into it 100%, though.

Swingarm bushings:
Planning on changing the original bushings with bronze swingarm bushings from cb750supply.com. Have not found them cheaper. Please let me know if anyone knows.

Rear fender+turn signal+back light:
Rear fender is in the same state as the front, and I need to replace the turn signals and back light to fit the new. Planning on moving license plate so that I can get lower profile back lights and signals.


Also, I am going to take all the steps the service manual recommends taking at the different intervals (e.g. fluids, bearings, oil filter etc.).

I'd love to get some input before I get started with spending money on this. :)

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 04:53:02 PM »

Handlebars+throttle+levers+lever mounts+grips+handlebar switches:
I've been looking at Motion Pro's push/pull throttle w/ cables. Any experiences with that?

MotionPro is a good brand of throttle. Venhill also offers a push/pull throttle assembly that is well regarded by many members, and Domino is another quality brand.


For handlebars I'm undecided except I know I do not want clip-ons or clubman. There's probably a forum post dedicated to it somewhere. I have not yet been able to look at every dark corner of this forum (yet!). :)

You might look at Norman Hyde M bars, LSL is another great brand, and of course, Renthals. Euro bars are popular with many that don't want the clubman or clip-on styles, but prefer a touring/street riding style.


I might keep the old handlebar switches, as I'm looking at Motogadget for the future. They have some nice (and expensive) solutions. Open for suggestion if someone knows of something better than the stock ones.

Cognitomoto.com offers a metal body, vintage style switch that's reasonably priced and looks good. I'm a huge fan of MotoGadget products and like their 3 button or new min 3 button switches. Best to couple those with their M-unit

Gauges:
Top cover sprayed with paint. Looks ugly. Going to try to refurbish before buying new.

If you replace, use the MotoGadget gauges. They're the "bomb"

Engine:

I'd love to hear anyone else's experiences with engine rebuilds, but I will also look further at the forum.

There is no shortage of great builds here with guys doing it themselves, hiring out portions of the builds, and even doing performance upgrades in reasonable budgets.

Change air filters:
Change the air box to pods from K&N, they say. How much will it improve the performance? Worth it?

This is not accurate. The stock airbox offers better performance, but pods are still popular among many. They require more "tuning" to get them dialed in.


Wire harness++:
The harness has been modified to the point that it needs replacement. I think this is the only thing I will have to get some assistance, as I am afraid my head will explode if I start with it.

MotoGadget M-Unit. Wiring made simple, reliable, and some very nice features for these modern bikes. Not required by any means, replacements harnesses are available aftermarket.

Swingarm bushings:
Planning on changing the original bushings with bronze swingarm bushings from cb750supply.com. Have not found them cheaper. Please let me know if anyone knows.

Search bronze swing arm bushings in the search bar, upper left.

Also, I am going to take all the steps the service manual recommends taking at the different intervals (e.g. fluids, bearings, oil filter etc.).

That's a great plan! It will provide you an accurate baseline to understand the health and status of your motor and suspension, brakes and electrical
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2014, 12:18:03 PM »
Looking forward to seeing your progress. Is the engine just spray painted black?

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2014, 12:30:55 PM »
Looking forward to seeing your progress. Is the engine just spray painted black?

I was curious about whether it was a paint job or a F motor in a K frame.

Maybe he should check the engine serial number.
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2014, 12:36:35 PM »
Looking forward to seeing your progress. Is the engine just spray painted black?

I was curious about whether it was a paint job or a F motor in a K frame.

Maybe he should check the engine serial number.

Great point. Let us know what's up, marsvar.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2014, 02:48:15 PM »
Thanks for the input AintNoEasyWay and CB750 Fan. I will have to check serials when I get my bike back. Just found out that the guy that's been storing my bike temporarily is away for the next three to four weeks.  >:(

PO said spraypaint, and I believe there are some nicks here and there that sort of confirms that. Will check serial to be sure, though.

At least I will have time to order the stuff I know I need in that time. Ordering from the US to Norway is a pain in the ass, though. Have to relay everything through a friend in the US because of stupid customs and tax regulations.

Since I'll probably sand blast the frame and glass blast the engine, I will have to get everything that affects the work prior to that.

Glass blast will be put on hold until I confirm the engine, since I need some new crankcase covers. Checked hondapartshouse.com and the part numbers differ for K and F. Even if they'd been the same, I don't think I would have ordered. It's those kinds of things that end up biting you in the ass.

Getting a seat and modify the frame will be first priority. Anyone with experience with the seats from tuffside.com? I've been looking at DCC ones as well, but I guess it's the same level of modification.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2014, 02:54:31 PM »
You can also obtain many parts from www.davidsilverspares.com or cmsnl.com. Both are international based and may be less hassle for you.

There are members who have used tuffside.com seats and they seem quite happy with them.
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2014, 02:58:14 PM »

Handlebars+throttle+levers+lever mounts+grips+handlebar switches:
I've been looking at Motion Pro's push/pull throttle w/ cables. Any experiences with that?

MotionPro is a good brand of throttle. Venhill also offers a push/pull throttle assembly that is well regarded by many members, and Domino is another quality brand.


For handlebars I'm undecided except I know I do not want clip-ons or clubman. There's probably a forum post dedicated to it somewhere. I have not yet been able to look at every dark corner of this forum (yet!). :)

You might look at Norman Hyde M bars, LSL is another great brand, and of course, Renthals. Euro bars are popular with many that don't want the clubman or clip-on styles, but prefer a touring/street riding style.


I might keep the old handlebar switches, as I'm looking at Motogadget for the future. They have some nice (and expensive) solutions. Open for suggestion if someone knows of something better than the stock ones.

Cognitomoto.com offers a metal body, vintage style switch that's reasonably priced and looks good. I'm a huge fan of MotoGadget products and like their 3 button or new min 3 button switches. Best to couple those with their M-unit

Gauges:
Top cover sprayed with paint. Looks ugly. Going to try to refurbish before buying new.

If you replace, use the MotoGadget gauges. They're the "bomb"

Engine:

I'd love to hear anyone else's experiences with engine rebuilds, but I will also look further at the forum.

There is no shortage of great builds here with guys doing it themselves, hiring out portions of the builds, and even doing performance upgrades in reasonable budgets.

Change air filters:
Change the air box to pods from K&N, they say. How much will it improve the performance? Worth it?

This is not accurate. The stock airbox offers better performance, but pods are still popular among many. They require more "tuning" to get them dialed in.


Wire harness++:
The harness has been modified to the point that it needs replacement. I think this is the only thing I will have to get some assistance, as I am afraid my head will explode if I start with it.

MotoGadget M-Unit. Wiring made simple, reliable, and some very nice features for these modern bikes. Not required by any means, replacements harnesses are available aftermarket.

Swingarm bushings:
Planning on changing the original bushings with bronze swingarm bushings from cb750supply.com. Have not found them cheaper. Please let me know if anyone knows.

Search bronze swing arm bushings in the search bar, upper left.

Also, I am going to take all the steps the service manual recommends taking at the different intervals (e.g. fluids, bearings, oil filter etc.).

That's a great plan! It will provide you an accurate baseline to understand the health and status of your motor and suspension, brakes and electrical

Thanks for the input. I don't think I've actually closed the CognitoMoto tab since I looked at the page the first time a few weeks ago. There's A LOT of incredible stuff there. I wish my current budget had room for full MotoGadget setup from the beginning.  8) The problem is if take the "easy way" out with m-Unit, then I'd be tempted to blow the budget on more stuff right away. :)

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 06:24:06 AM »
Yea man, Cognito Moto is doing incredible things!

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 01:30:47 PM »
Ordered some stuff on eBay today:

-Crankcase cover (1 out of 2 needed). Going to look for the inner cover in a bike salvage yard I know of, as it was too expensive to avoid heavy tax and VAT penalties when importing.
-Bronze swingarm bushing set
-Engine allen bolt set
-Oil filter
-Steering bearings (All Balls)
-Carb intake manifolds

About $260 spent.

I think the shipping costs for this almost equal the actual costs. Scary. Next I am going to decide on seat and whether to get a m-Unit or just a standard harness.

I guess it would be cheaper for me to fly down to Germany and pick up the m-Unit than to actually import it and pay taxes and stuff.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 01:38:15 PM »
If its any cheaper for you to have it "shipped" to you as a "gift", then perhaps we can help you from the States? I've got an extra sitting on the shelf awaiting install that I could certainly ship to you via USPS Priority Post with a $0 value. Don't know if that helps you with import fees?

Many have bought their SS bolt kits from this vendor as each cover comes individually labeled and packaged:
http://alloyboltz.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=316_358_370&products_id=2204&osCsid=ju08sjtfuqcco24eanjq271lv3


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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 01:53:13 PM »
calj737: As long as I stay under around $40 I avoid the taxes, but the shipping costs are still a pain in the ass. $25 and up. The worst I've seen is $60 for a $25 part. Although, shipping as "gift" is a excellent way of avoiding taxes when the seller is willing to.

I don't know the rules for buying in-forum. Private message? I'm interested.

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« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 07:34:49 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2014, 05:12:05 AM »
calj737: As long as I stay under around $40 I avoid the taxes, but the shipping costs are still a pain in the ass. $25 and up. The worst I've seen is $60 for a $25 part. Although, shipping as "gift" is a excellent way of avoiding taxes when the seller is willing to.

I don't know the rules for buying in-forum. Private message? I'm interested.

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On the bright side of having your bike stored away for a couple weeks, at least you'll have time to order parts & have them arrive.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2014, 01:19:26 PM »
I've received the crankcase cover already! That was fast! I ordered carb boots about a month ago, and they've still not arrived. This took about 7 days!

The other cover I (might) have found at a salvage yard in another city in Norway, I just have to find the right one out of the three they've sent me pictures of. This http://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb750k-750-four-k-1978-usa_model7244/partslist/E++11.html#results does not help though. Anyone want to have a guess on which fits my bike? Since I don't have it in my garage, I can't pull it off mine to compare. I suspect the middle one, though. :)




Other than that, I've ordered some small stuff as well. I've added some MotoGadget-stuff to the cart on CognitoMoto, so I might make a purchase there pretty soon. The next "big" upgrade after that will be a new seat. I was wondering, if I have to modify the back hoop, do I also have to make that strut that goes across on the stock hoop? It's just for mounting the seat, but I don't know whether it also stiffens the back part at all. Thoughts?

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2014, 03:57:00 PM »
The hoop below the seat across the rails does provide some stiffness. If you remove it, then you can replace it with flat stock; however, you need to allow for clearance of the rear fender and tire under full shock compression.
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2014, 06:34:19 AM »
The hoop below the seat across the rails does provide some stiffness. If you remove it, then you can replace it with flat stock; however, you need to allow for clearance of the rear fender and tire under full shock compression.

I had not seen this reply until now. Thanks for the info. The seat I've been looking at is made in a "Big Honda Style", so I'm hoping it fits somewhat without having to modify the frame too much.

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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2014, 07:12:59 AM »
So, here's a little update on the current progress.

I've received some more stuff, and ordered some from MotoGadget (m-Unit, m-Button and cable kit).

So until my bike arrives I've started setting things up in my garage. I have to build a workbench and set up some storage options. Bought materials for building it all yesterday, but when I unloaded my car with all the stuff I found four big wasps nests in the roof of my garage. Needless to say, I got the f**k out of there. Do not want hundreds of wasps bothering me. I'm going to set up a wasp trap in there to see how much activity there is before deciding on removing them myself or not.

Waiting for my paycheck to arrive so I can order a new seat and gasket kit for engine and carbs, as well as the other crankcase cover. A few posts up I've enclosed pictures of some that I've been offered from a local salvage yard. Anyone knows which one fits my bike?

Would love to hear about other peoples experience with different brand gaskets and kits. Are there any I should steer clear of? 4into1.com has three different ranging from $55 to about $90.

I've decided on a seat, and I'm going with standard black Universal Flat Seat (Big Honda) from tuffside.com.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2014, 11:26:04 AM »
Ordered one Universal Flat Seat, Rear hoop and mounting kit from Tuffside.com today.

Black with black stitchings.

$387

It's now only two weeks until I get my bike. Until then I have to finish building my workbench and buying all the necessary boxes and tools and stuff that I need to pull it apart and keeping it organized. Can't wait! :)

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2014, 01:48:45 PM »
Ordered some more stuff today:

From 4into1.com:
1 x All Balls Front Wheel Bearing & Seal Kit - 25-1307 - Honda CB350 CB400 CB500 CB550 CB750
1 x Emgo Black Superbike Handlebars 7/8"
1 x All Balls Rear Wheel Bearing & Seal Kit - 25-1362 - Honda CB650 CB750
1 x NE Brand - Complete Gasket Set - Honda CB750 1970-1978
1 x Genuine Honda - Center Stand Stopper - 95011-61000 - CB350 CB400F CB450 CB500 CB550 CB750
2 x Honda Side Cover Grommet Set
1 x 80's Style Honda Complete Brake Master Cylinder
1 x Replica Carburetor Float Bowl Gasket & Float Needle Set - Honda CB550 CB750 - 1977-1978

From Cognitomoto:
1x Biltwell Thruster Grips - Black - Biltwell Thruster Grips - Black
1x Headlight Brackets - Universal Black
1x Turn Signals - Black/Clear
1x Honda Style Push/Pull Throttle Assembly w/Cables - Black

Around $300

Surfing the internet while the wife is away is dangerous.

I was talking to the guy that is storing my bike today about the inner rear crankcase cover, and that I've got a lead on getting a salvaged part. He pulled off both covers and the bolt holding on to the gear inside just fell out. Guess I've had a few lucky trips before I started pulling it apart.

edit: crankshaft -> crankcase
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2014, 01:55:24 PM »
Looking forward to seeing your progress. Is the engine just spray painted black?

I was curious about whether it was a paint job or a F motor in a K frame.

Maybe he should check the engine serial number.
Great point. Let us know what's up, marsvar.

It is most definitely a paint job. And it's terrible. Looking at borrowing a soda blaster and doing it right this time.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2014, 03:19:38 PM »
Question for everyone.

Marsvar ordered a single unmatched crankcase to be mated with another.  It is advised that you purchase replacement crankcase in matched pairs.  Should he deck the mating surfaces??
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2014, 04:16:05 PM »
CR Fan: I've only ordered the rear covers separate. I've attached a picture of the two from the assembly photos. I got the outer one (bottom arrow), missing the inner.


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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2014, 02:10:33 AM »
CR Fan: I've only ordered the rear covers separate. I've attached a picture of the two from the assembly photos. I got the outer one (bottom arrow), missing the inner.

I thought you were referring to the crankcase covers - the main engine cases enclosing the crankcase and transmission.
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2014, 07:46:55 AM »
CR Fan: I've only ordered the rear covers separate. I've attached a picture of the two from the assembly photos. I got the outer one (bottom arrow), missing the inner.

I thought you were referring to the crankcase covers - the main engine cases enclosing the crankcase and transmission.

Oh, no. To my knowledge (haven't looked inside yet) they are fine and I can use them. The engine should just need a tightened chain, a gasket kit, a soda blast and a paint job, and of course new crankcase covers.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2014, 02:37:21 PM »
So, I got my bike!

Went out to get some tools and stuff and started stripping off things that I know will have to be replaced.

Removed wire harness, battery and box and speedo/tacho-combo. Really hoping to have the frame cleared by the end of October, so that I can get it modified, sand blasted and painted or powder coated.

I've found out that I need to replace a lot of the electrical components, as they are not in a good state. Minor setback budget-wise, but since its so long until it goes back its not really an issue.

Attached two pictures from my tiny garage.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2014, 03:48:14 PM »
Finally it's home!

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2014, 10:29:12 AM »
Today I have removed:

Rear crankcase cover
I was not prepared, and oil started running out. Luckily I bought an oil pan a couple of days ago. It needs to be blasted and painted

Controls on handlebars++
Took off push/pull and clutch and removed cables. Reusing clutch-cable, but not throttle cables. Also removed ignition, choke and horn.

Handlebars
Just removed them. Fasteners needs to be painted again.

Airbox
Removed the airbox and checked the filter. I want to get a new or change to pods. Its useable, but needs service.

Carbs
Took them off, they're in nice condition. Going to service them and give them a good scrub.

Engine looks good, except for the terrible paint job. Found a little bit more rust, but nothing critical.
I've also ordered new rear shocks off eBay. Thinking about ordering progressive springs for either the ones on now or on the new ones. Unfortunately, I forgot to take pictures today, as we are having dinner guests and I was late. Will take some tomorrow to show you the current status.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2014, 09:00:53 AM »
Attached two pictures from yesterdays tear-down.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2014, 12:40:38 PM »
I've continued the tear-down today with:

Exhaust
Removed the exhaust. Checked the pipes, and there are no major damage. Some spots where theres nicks and bumps, but no holes or bad rust.

Rear wheel
Looks decent, just needs some love. PO has spraypainted the rims without masking off the spokes. Gotta try to fix it without pulling them apart. Don't want to true and balance them when they are fine now.

Rear shocks
Left shock upper bolt was barely tightened, used my hand to unscrew it. Right shock was broken at the bottom mount. Its a good thing I ordered some new ones on eBay the other day. I've ridden the bike a few times before I started to tear it down, and I now get why the handling has been strange at times.

Coils
They can be reused

My phone ran out of battery before I managed to take pictures. Next time, brakes and rear swingarm.

I'm kinda nervous about disconnecting the brake line as I've read that if it is completely drained it can be a pain in the ass (getting air out of it). But, since I'm replacing MC and changing to single SS line, do I really need to take precautions?

The other thing I've been putting off is disconnecting oil tank, as it is full and I'm trying to think of the best way without spilling too much.

There's also some cables going into the engine that needs to be replaced. I'll take some pictures when I can, because I'm not sure where they all go, and they need to be replaced.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2014, 01:36:50 PM »
Two days in a row with work on the bike. Trying to add pictures, but it fails.

Yesterday I worked on the bike only for about 30 mins with planning for tonight in mind. Removed some minor stuff as well as the MC (finally).

Today I started with taking off the rear swing arm, which I believe might be a non-stock kind. The bronze bearings I've ordered do not fit AT ALL. They've got the same inside diameter as the swing arms. I was expecting rubber bearings. Not sure what to do about it. Order new swing arm or bearings or keep the old?

Drained the oil tank and removed it. A little bit of rust, but a good blasting will take care of it.

Took out the engine. Had help from a friend (and straps) and the f**cker came out at last. We removed it with the frame standing up. I think I will try laying it on the side for the install.

Removed front tire and forks. This was easy. Forks look good, but I might have to re-spray the bottom. Triples need some love.

The only thing that is left now is removing the main stand and the kickstand.

A neighbour of mine came by and he is going help me with blasting, cutting and welding the frame and the other parts, as he has all the stuff for it at work. Major relief, budget-wise! I had set off about $800 for this and now I might be doing it all myself (with help). Now I'm just waiting for some more parts to arrive and I can start working on that. Until then I am going to start sorting all the parts and bags and containers of stuff in the garage to see what I need to replace and what I can use.

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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2014, 01:54:04 PM »
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Re: '78 CB750K - Giving K8 a makeover
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2014, 11:42:05 AM »
It's been a while, but I finally got all the stuff I ordered online. Relayed it through a friend from school who lives in Minnesota. It took a while to get that big box through customs..

Received:

-Tuffside seat + hoop + hardware
-Handlebars (black tracker bars) + grips
-Master Cylinder with brake lever (black)
-Engine gasket kit
-Carb gasket kit
-Rear shocks
-Throttle with push/pull-wires
-Turn signals
-Headlight mounts
-Wheel bearings (rear + front)

Getting the rear hoop allowed me to go forward with modifying the frame. Had a friend that works at a place that fixes up old engines and engine parts and we spent a day fixing a few things.

First, we put the parts that was going to be worked on through a large industrial parts washer.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q97rhth8gfe5uvz/IMG_2823.jpg?dl=0

Then, we glass blasted the rear swingarm and the oil tank, and primed them.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zwct05zxwbpy6sj/IMG_2825.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/00lp75szz3vo74a/IMG_2828.jpg?dl=0

After that we cut off the rear part of the frame, the main stand mounts and the original seat mounts and welded on the new rear hoop. The hoop had to be cut and put together to fit. I forgot to take pictures of this, unfortunately.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9jwi6cd0jqntxn/IMG_2826.jpg?dl=0

This is from the test-fitting before we welded on the new hoop.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9cw9onz9lnoh0zy/IMG_2830.jpg?dl=0

Dropped the frame off to be sandblasted last week, as it did not fit the box we did the oil tank and swingarm. Looking forward to getting it back. Ordered a brake light/license/turn signal-bracket off CognitoMoto and some stuff from hondapartshouse the other day. When I get the frame back I need to test-mount some stuff before welding on the mounts for the bracket.

I found out that my grease-plug on the rear swingarm was busted, which has caused the stock plastic bushings to dry up as &%!". Spent half an hour with a knife and got about a square inch of them out. I think I am going to drill them out.

Next up: Engine cleaning and paint removal while I wait for more parts.