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Re: HELP! Aggressive riding and my bike won't idol. Makes different noises now.
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2014, 07:11:22 PM »
Nope. Nevermind... I had to plug the battery in. Switching the blue and yellow cables by the air box gives spark to 2/3.


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« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2014, 07:11:59 PM »
With the new wires are you able to out a spare spark plug in caps 2 and 3 to confirm you have spark on those? May seem miniscule but are the caps on all the way?
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« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2014, 07:12:00 PM »
I had switched the blue and yellow by the coils back already.


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« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2014, 07:13:39 PM »
Ok so we have narrowed it down to the one coil or possibly the one side of the dyna. Can you take a pic of the wires from the coils? The black and yellow and blue and black if I recall correctly?
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« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2014, 07:19:12 PM »
I'll take a picture. With wires reversed... I get a spark from 2/3/4 when turning the ignition to off.


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« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2014, 07:21:41 PM »
Bah! I get spark from everything when turning the bike off!


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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2014, 07:23:12 PM »
Hmm. I'm more of a person who will test avenues to fix and I do not really know how to test the proper way. I am always a plug and play type to find a fix.

So if you have the wires hooked up properly under the coils, correct cylinder for each spark plug wire only cylinder 1 and 4 fire?

But if you swap the blue and yellow wires under the airbox then 2 and 3 fire? Is this correct?
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« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2014, 07:24:23 PM »
Wow this is crazy! Now how about when you turn it on? I'm wondering if it's the hand control?
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« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2014, 07:24:48 PM »
I get spark from 1/2/3/4 when turning the bike off. I get spark only from 1/4 when pushing ignition switch. This is with all wires in it's correct place.


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« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2014, 07:25:18 PM »
Correct.


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« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2014, 07:25:47 PM »
Nothing when I turn it on.


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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2014, 07:31:36 PM »
I can see the spark when it happens.

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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2014, 07:38:40 PM »
OK. I'm going to have to go buy a multimeter and then learn how to use it :) I'll post results when I get them.

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« Reply #38 on: September 03, 2014, 07:40:08 PM »
Hey cal I know the dyna comes with the 2 red wires. Is it possible one of them came lose from there power source?
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« Reply #39 on: September 03, 2014, 07:43:27 PM »
I know we are a little bit past it now but here is a video.

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« Reply #40 on: September 03, 2014, 07:51:33 PM »
Lion where is the red wire connected? I may be off when I said there are 2 red wires but I think that is when not using the long red wire supplied in the box when new.
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« Reply #41 on: September 05, 2014, 05:28:21 PM »
Can someone give me some instruction on how to check voltage on my coils the correct way and how to probably check resistance on my plug caps? I have a multimeter.


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« Reply #42 on: September 05, 2014, 05:28:58 PM »
My head is spinning trying to understand electricity.


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« Reply #43 on: September 05, 2014, 07:45:33 PM »
Weird now cause I'm in the same boat for my 750. Got a new harness and key ignition and still no power. I will look for a thread identifying how to check electrical and post here.
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« Reply #44 on: September 06, 2014, 07:31:33 AM »
Ok. Looking forward to it.


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« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2014, 07:38:36 PM »
OK guys...
I have 12 volts going in to my 2/3 coil. I also replaced the coil to make sure and I got new spark caps. Nothing has changed. The  Dyna S has 2 red wires, a black wire, and a white wire. The black wire is the blue and the white wire is the yellow. The red wires lead to the same place and become the black and white wires.
When I switch the yellow and blue leads... and the blue wire is going into the 2/3 coil...the 2/3 coil produces a spark. When I switch the same wires but at the Dyna S location, I get the same result. The yellow wire seems to be the issue here. However... when I turn the bike key to the off position... all 4 spark plugs get a spark.

Question: Both coils are indeed powering up but it's the yellow wire that is failing to tell the 2/3 coil to fire. Does this mean that my Dyna S is bad?

What do I do? What do I check?

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« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2014, 07:46:25 PM »
OKAY!
http://www.dynaonline.com/skins/downloads/instruct/DS1-1_1-2.pdf
Read the last paragraph of this .pdf. I am pretty sure that it's the Dyna S that is the issue.