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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2014, 09:15:53 AM »
Wouldn't use additives. Too much zinc IS harmful and this whole zinc thing is out of proportion if you ask me. All oils still contain some zinc.
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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2014, 11:00:41 AM »
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Before that, oils were optimized for best protection. Now they are compromised, having to accommodate the catalytic converters.
You state this as a fact. May I ask how you know this?
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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2014, 11:37:54 AM »
He phrased the statement as an open-ended question allowing for the possibility that his understanding might not be accurate. A subtle nuance in the punctuation that was likely missed by members from abroad.
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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2014, 12:58:53 PM »
I still see a statement. Can't you? Strange for a native speaker.
Besides I don't know where the question mark comes from. It's not in my quote and I have used copy and paste... But maybe I'm getting too subtle now.  ;D
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Re: "Break in" miles on new rings and honed cylinders?
« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2014, 01:34:15 PM »
Wasn't it the introduction of catalytic converters that forced lower levels of zinc in gas car oils?
This is a common method of "proposing ones point of view" not as a fact, but as his perspective.


Before that, oils were optimized for best protection. Now they are compromised, having to accommodate the catalytic converters. Diesel and race engines don't have cat converters so oil types for them is preferred. That's how I see it.

This is where Schnell intimates that he "may be mistaken or misled" but has this position based upon his experience, understand in or interpretation.

English spoken in the US is a tricky, and heavily nuanced language. And Schnell, if I recall correctly, is an educator so his mastery of tone and structure is used in subtle ways to imply he's comfortable with a topic, but in no way professing himself to be "the master". It's a very polite method of opening dialogue, and he's done so brilliantly.

Hope that is helpful to you.
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