Author Topic: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build (Read 348057 times)

MickB · « **Reply #400 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:37:45 PM »

The real issue you'll have is cornering, if it's not tight it'll slip sides ways and you'll know then if you need to get spacers.
The bronze bearings I got arn't super tight on the swinging arm bolt and I'm wondering what they'll be like when riding.

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #401 on:** February 04, 2015, 03:55:12 PM »

Quote from: MickB on February 04, 2015, 03:37:45 PM

The real issue you'll have is cornering, if it's not tight it'll slip sides ways and you'll know then if you need to get spacers.
The bronze bearings I got arn't super tight on the swinging arm bolt and I'm wondering what they'll be like when riding.

The swing arm pivot isn't what I'm asking about, but is has zero play and feels really nice in the frame. I read about a lot of people having issues with rebuilding their swing arm, but for me the process went really smooth.

And don't get me started on Swedish music. Big fan over here, ha.

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #402 on:** February 05, 2015, 08:44:18 AM »

Got a 2mm thick stainless washer. Works perfectly. Now the sprockets are perfectly in line and axle is tight. Thanks Cal for the present!

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1978 Honda CB550K

calj737 · « **Reply #403 on:** February 05, 2015, 07:08:48 PM »

Couldn't have sent it to a nicer guy, Dave. Hope it serves you well-

MickB · « **Reply #404 on:** February 05, 2015, 07:52:37 PM »

Great to hear Dave, any photo to show the gap being taken up by the spacers?

Bootsey · « **Reply #405 on:** February 05, 2015, 08:19:20 PM »

Projects looking good Dave, the rearset mod looks neat. I've been able to find answers to some of the same swingarm questions I was having myself too, so thanks.
I'm a fan of your painted parts drying setup, looks very homely.

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #406 on:** February 05, 2015, 08:50:39 PM »

Thanks Bootsey, and yeah that drying setup worked well. I'll have to try to find more parts to paint.

Mick, here's some pictures. The spacer looks so insignificant now! Might have been able to get away with just pinching the swingarm arms together but that didn't feel right. It'll have enough stress on it while riding.

The spacer is right to the right of the chain adjuster.

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1978 Honda CB550K

jvandyke · « **Reply #407 on:** February 07, 2015, 03:09:47 PM »

Quote from: DaveBarbier on January 22, 2015, 11:16:22 AM

Finally finished up the rearsets. Very comfortable but the real test is when I'm riding. Can't test that for a few months, ha.

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1978 Honda CB550K

Where did you get the cam on the brake shaft? I see DCC has the shifter cams for sale but no brake side?

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #408 on:** February 07, 2015, 03:17:08 PM »

Quote from: jvandyke on February 07, 2015, 03:09:47 PM

Quote from: DaveBarbier on January 22, 2015, 11:16:22 AM
Finally finished up the rearsets. Very comfortable but the real test is when I'm riding. Can't test that for a few months, ha.

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1978 Honda CB550K

Where did you get the cam on the brake shaft? I see DCC has the shifter cams for sale but no brake side?

Sorry, what do you mean by cam?

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #409 on:** March 12, 2015, 04:28:42 AM »

Hey guys, just a double check on something. I'm rebuilding my forks and was checking the fork spring length limit. The minimum length in the Clymer says 425mm (16.73") and mine is 475mm (18.5625). "What's the problem?", you ask. Well, that's my issue, it's SOO within spec that I'm doubting the Clymer. Are these measurements right? Does the spring have enough length to be able to compress 2 full inches and still be within spec? I know I have to trust the book, and I normally do but this just put up a flag. Could they have switched the 400 and 550 measurements accidentally?

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1978 Honda CB550K

calj737 · « **Reply #410 on:** March 12, 2015, 05:28:20 AM »

Sounds like yours are not stock and are still quite long. Will they compress enough? Sure, but the load required to do so will be different than stock design.

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #411 on:** March 12, 2015, 05:56:46 AM »

The PO didn't say they were rebuilt...I know I can't trust him but I'd think that would have been a selling point. No idea if it is stock or not. The seals looked ok but also seemed old and were genuine Honda.

They felt fine when I was riding around so I'm going to keep them in, I think. Unless someone else with a 78 550K can give me a measurement of theirs so I can be more sure of what I have. Bike only had 9k miles.

What would you do?

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1978 Honda CB550K

calj737 · « **Reply #412 on:** March 12, 2015, 06:01:10 AM »

Install, fill with oil, and ride.

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #413 on:** March 12, 2015, 06:11:32 AM »

Quote from: calj737 on March 12, 2015, 06:01:10 AM

Install, fill with oil, and ride.

Love it.

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #414 on:** March 12, 2015, 12:04:12 PM »

Install of tapered All Balls steering neck bearings is finished. I used the thin spacer and both dust seals. Didn't have any problems. Hammered the bearing on the neck with a piece of PVC and the old race. Pressed in the races in the neck with the old races, washers and all thread. Right in, not a problem. The lower race does seem to not be completely seated, you can see in one picture, but I'm certain it is. Can't drive it in any more and it's not cocked at all.

Thin washer, larger dust seal and bearing packed with grease.

All thread method avoids hammering and damaging parts.

Closeup of top. The top race is all the way in at this point. It sticks up a couple millimeters.

Bottom race getting pressed in.

Packed top bearing in place.

Lower race after install and right after a test fit of the neck. You can see the little gap, almost like the race has more to go, but it feels like it's fully seated.

Now to clean and patina the fork lowers.

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #415 on:** March 19, 2015, 04:02:13 PM »

Got my new clipons and they are perfect with my Nissin MC. They are really nice quality. I'd recommend them for sure.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=190714880810

I can move the MC all the way up the bar as close as I want to the forks without hitting the clipon pinch clamp. Will install this weekend and hopefully then be all set for the warm weather. Just need a haircut.

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #416 on:** March 21, 2015, 10:27:40 AM »

Question guys, would it be ok to trim off the brake line stopper tab so I'm not limited to certain angles? If I have to submit to the angles given by the little tab then the line is going to be tightly bent. I want to have the line come off the bottom but the tab is keeping it from that position. I think it'll be fine, but I'll have to hold the brake line with something to keep it from spinning as I tighten it down. Just don't know if it's bad practice.

Thanks

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1978 Honda CB550K

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #417 on:** March 21, 2015, 12:34:23 PM »

Should be ok...just remember that if you don't really crank that banjo bolt, the line flexing and moving from steering could cause the line to loosen...and blue loctite is not an option here unless applied extremely carefully.

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #418 on:** March 21, 2015, 12:48:33 PM »

Thanks Sean. I didn't even think about loosening with vibration and twisting. I guess it's known to put the banjo in front of the tab so it can't twist backwards and loosen the banjo bolt. I'll cut it and see how it goes.

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1978 Honda CB550K

calj737 · « **Reply #419 on:** March 21, 2015, 02:28:37 PM »

You should be using a copper or aluminum crush washer when installing the banjo bolt to eliminate the bolt from working free under vibration.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #420 on:** March 21, 2015, 02:41:52 PM »

generally assumed JB is pretty well aware that 2 copper washers are required

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #421 on:** March 21, 2015, 08:13:31 PM »

Not sure who JB is but yes, new crush washers are a must for brake systems. Although I thought they were more meant for hydraulic sealing rather than a lock washer. I cut the tab and am actually going to safety wire the banjo bolt. Already drilled it, so tomorrow it's going in. On a side note, I've officially had it with winter.

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1978 Honda CB550K

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #422 on:** March 21, 2015, 10:39:46 PM »

oops...meant DB. Safety wire! ...didn't even think of that

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #423 on:** March 22, 2015, 04:16:52 AM »

Ha, no problem Sean. Thanks guys!

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1978 Honda CB550K

DaveBarbier · « **Reply #424 on:** March 29, 2015, 08:29:36 AM »

Got around to adjusting the brakes. I notice that there's a minimal amount of drag from the caliper. It has always been like this but I just want to be sure this is normal. There is no point in the adjustment where I can eliminate all noise. It always drags a little and I can visually see the pad retracting. Brakes feel perfect and are rock hard.

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1978 Honda CB550K

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