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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2000 on: May 26, 2019, 05:55:50 PM »
Finished wiring up the bike. Voltage at the battery is a stable 13.8 volts with the new Rick’s reg/rec. Says it’s rated for 14 volts +-.2 volts so I’m right there. Voltage at AUX of the mUnit is about the same. Maybe .1-.2 lower than the battery. Voltage at the coils is 12.25 volts so the dc converter is doing it’s job nicely.

Test ride tomorrow afternoon, then scheduling an appointment for the dyno later in the week. Can’t wait.

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2001 on: May 26, 2019, 06:34:49 PM »
Finished wiring up the bike. Voltage at the battery is a stable 13.8 volts with the new Rick’s reg/rec. Says it’s rated for 14 volts +-.2 volts so I’m right there. Voltage at AUX of the mUnit is about the same. Maybe .1-.2 lower than the battery. Voltage at the coils is 12.25 volts so the dc converter is doing it’s job nicely.

Test ride tomorrow afternoon, then scheduling an appointment for the dyno later in the week. Can’t wait.

Good to hear!  I got my voltage regulator yesterday.
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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2002 on: May 26, 2019, 07:04:10 PM »
Finished wiring up the bike. Voltage at the battery is a stable 13.8 volts with the new Rick’s reg/rec. Says it’s rated for 14 volts +-.2 volts so I’m right there. Voltage at AUX of the mUnit is about the same. Maybe .1-.2 lower than the battery. Voltage at the coils is 12.25 volts so the dc converter is doing it’s job nicely.

Test ride tomorrow afternoon, then scheduling an appointment for the dyno later in the week. Can’t wait.

Good to hear!  I got my voltage regulator yesterday.

Nice! Are you putting the 674 more towards the front of your bike project priority list?

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2003 on: May 26, 2019, 07:25:10 PM »
Finished wiring up the bike. Voltage at the battery is a stable 13.8 volts with the new Rick’s reg/rec. Says it’s rated for 14 volts +-.2 volts so I’m right there. Voltage at AUX of the mUnit is about the same. Maybe .1-.2 lower than the battery. Voltage at the coils is 12.25 volts so the dc converter is doing it’s job nicely.

Test ride tomorrow afternoon, then scheduling an appointment for the dyno later in the week. Can’t wait.

Good to hear!  I got my voltage regulator yesterday.

Nice! Are you putting the 674 more towards the front of your bike project priority list?

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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2004 on: May 27, 2019, 11:22:05 AM »
So far the bike is performing well. It’s not hot enough to see if the coils shut off, but my gauge’s volt meter is keeping steady at 13.6 volts.

Also just checked the carb sync kind of expecting it to be out of whack since this motor has only had once sync since I first fired it up. I was thinking a new motor would require a couple syncs until it levels out...nope. Still in sync.

More riding today and then this week I’ll call Rick Stetson, the man, the legend. Happy Memorial Day!

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« Reply #2005 on: May 28, 2019, 06:43:44 AM »
Also, my gauge is still fogging up and I don’t know if I want to bother with sending it back to Germany. Especially if it’s right in the middle of riding season. Might just deal with it for now and see if I can send it back over the winter.

Anyone know if there’s another electronic speedo that uses a magnetic pickup that can be placed in any diameter circle? Like, with the Motogadget you can put the pickup on the wheel, rotor, front sprocket, doesn’t matter how large of a circle it’s on. You just program the gauge. Many other speedos have to be in a 17” circle or some other predetermined size and then you select that option in the gauge. 

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2006 on: May 28, 2019, 10:40:51 AM »
 Koso works just like that. I got one for my project. It's the nt-01 I think, I have to check. It's a little on the small side but has tach, speedo, and indicators all in one and is programmable as you want. You can also use multiple magnets for the pick up to give it a faster response time
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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2007 on: May 28, 2019, 10:47:45 AM »
Damn!  Will Spiegler take it back and send it on for service?  I would think and HOPE that Motogadget would want to make this right for you.

Did you try calling Spiegler 937-291-1735?
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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« Reply #2008 on: May 28, 2019, 11:46:00 AM »
Thanks Nick, I’ll check them out.

Don, I was talking to Motogadget and they will repair it...again...but I have to send it to Germany. They did just get back to me saying that if I can deal with it for the season I can send it back for repair over the winter. I’ll do that unless it gets bad. Then I’ll look for another gauge. Sucks because they’re supposed to be such good quality and they definitely charge for it. I love the gauge but I’d rather have one I can see through.

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« Reply #2009 on: May 28, 2019, 11:47:26 AM »
Damn!  Will Spiegler take it back and send it on for service?  I would think and HOPE that Motogadget would want to make this right for you.

Did you try calling Spiegler 937-291-1735?

Hmm, I haven’t tried them. But that still means I’d be out of a gauge for a few weeks. Unless they would just give me a replacement and then get reimbursed from Motogadget.

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2010 on: May 28, 2019, 11:50:03 AM »
Thanks Nick, I’ll check them out.

Don, I was talking to Motogadget and they will repair it...again...but I have to send it to Germany. They did just get back to me saying that if I can deal with it for the season I can send it back for repair over the winter. I’ll do that unless it gets bad. Then I’ll look for another gauge. Sucks because they’re supposed to be such good quality and they definitely charge for it. I love the gauge but I’d rather have one I can see through.

That's effed up that they won't fix it for free, since it has never functioned properly for you.  At a minimum, they ought to offer to replace it with another gauge -- like the Motoscope Pro.  BTW - I have one and it is great.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2011 on: May 28, 2019, 12:36:55 PM »
Thanks Nick, I’ll check them out.

Don, I was talking to Motogadget and they will repair it...again...but I have to send it to Germany. They did just get back to me saying that if I can deal with it for the season I can send it back for repair over the winter. I’ll do that unless it gets bad. Then I’ll look for another gauge. Sucks because they’re supposed to be such good quality and they definitely charge for it. I love the gauge but I’d rather have one I can see through.

That's effed up that they won't fix it for free, since it has never functioned properly for you.  At a minimum, they ought to offer to replace it with another gauge -- like the Motoscope Pro.  BTW - I have one and it is great.

Oh, they will fix it for free. They’ll even cover shipping to Germany. It’s a long wait and since they already “fixed” it the first time and the problem remains I won’t hold my breath. They said as long as it’s possible to fix they will choose to try a repair rather than swap out the unit.

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2012 on: May 28, 2019, 02:28:41 PM »
My understanding is that they are sealed air-tight in argon or a similar inert gas.  When they are customized (like at Seattle Speedometer) they are re-sealed in an argon chamber. 

Glad Motogadget will pick up the costs -- other than time.  With a second "problem,"  I still think they should swap it.
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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« Reply #2013 on: June 01, 2019, 09:17:16 AM »
Ohh man, ok went to Rick Stetson the dyno master yesterday. Fun day, a little long with some weird issues, but still fun.

As I expected my jetting was close. We only went down on the mains from 105 to 100. Also tried some main air jet stuff but ended up going back to the existing 220’s. He adjusted the mixture screws and it idles much better than before. I had it all too rich, and I knew it. I just wanted to be sure I was safe until we put it on the dyno.

So first thing was the clutch was slipping, AGAIN. Last time I was there we had to remove the clutch, mill the basket to accept larger heavier springs he had in stock and that helped. This time it was slipping again from 9,000 rpm and it was still trying to make power. We removed the clutch cover and put in even heavier springs than before. Put it all together and it was slipping less but still slipping. So we took it off again, broke for lunch (Harry’s Diner, really nice place with even nicer people) and then put in even HEAVIER springs and also glass bead blasted the plates. Clutch lever is a little heavier but I don’t think it’ll be a problem. Worst case I still have the other springs I can put in...or think about a hydraulic conversion...hopefully not. Back on the dyno and it pulled almost to 10,000 rpm with good power. Rick chalked the slipping up to design rather than oil (conventional) or clutch being worn out. So Don, you might want to be aware of this.



Next thing was IGNITION. The clutch wasn’t slipping anymore. But almost always we’d get a weird blip at the high end rpm. Rick almost thought the C5 had a rev limiter, that’s how it was acting. I told him about the reduced voltage deal that Paul at C5 recommended. Showed him my dc converter and he was dubious. We ended up bypassing the converter for the coils only, not the plate, and the weird blip disappeared. Next was the ignition timing. We tried 2° advanced and power dropped off. Tried 2° retarded and power increased. Then 4°, more power. 5.5°, little more power then we ran out of adjustment room. Not sure how much it would have gone but that’s how the cookie crumbles. I’m not comfortable enough to do more tests without the dyno so I’m leaving it. The C5 isn’t very precise when setting timing anyway. You put the engine to #1 TDC and then rotate the plate until the red LED comes on. But the thing is is that the red LED can stay on for like 6° of rotation. And there aren’t any marks to use a strobe. I’ll have to use my degree wheel to see where it is exactly. We also tried the different ignition curves that the C5 is programmed for. Nothing made an improvement so we kept with the #1 map where both wires are grounded (if you have a C5 you’ll understand this).

Lastly was the air/fuel map. Forever I was getting this weird spike and then dip before leveling out to a perfect ratio. We looked at other guys who had the same Megacycle 126-20 and they all had the same spike and dip. Some more pronounced than others. Mine was one of the extreme ones. Rick felt this was going to be almost impossible to tune out. He mentioned the words “fuel injection” and I put my fingers in my ears. Now, the bike feels great, my butt says the a/f ratio is a flat curve but the machines say otherwise. So it’s not noticeable from me but it’s there. I’m not worried about it.



I’m undecided if I’ll keep with the converter or remove it. I don’t see myself really utilizing 9,500 rpm that much so for now I’m going to keep it hooked up. If it starts to bug me I’ll take it off. The new Rick’s reg/rec I got which is designed for LiFe PO batteries does keep the voltage at a stable 13.8 volts. So still under what Paul wants us about. So if I remove it I’d be surprised if the coils give problems again.

All in all I love going up there. Rick is a legend with an awesome shop and Skippy the dog is the best.

Long post. Time to ride.

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2014 on: June 01, 2019, 01:13:48 PM »
Big update: Bike still sputters to a stop. Currently on the side of a road. Don’t have any spark plugs to test with. I’m thinking of throwing the C5 in the bin.

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« Reply #2015 on: June 01, 2019, 01:22:16 PM »
Same issues as before, no spark? That's a shame. I do understand the feeling, when some high tech stuff ain't working out.
If your getting rid of the C5 maybe the Dyna 2000 is a good option. It doesn't come ready for the CB650, but I read somewhere that it's easy to fit to a CB650 (you use CB750 model) with minor adjustments.

Check this post: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,17895.0.html
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« Reply #2016 on: June 01, 2019, 01:34:29 PM »
I wish I brought spark plugs and tools to test with. I just assumed it was fixed, rookie mistake. It really sounds and feels like ignition. Thanks for the link. I’m going to do a lot of research tonight, haha.

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« Reply #2018 on: June 01, 2019, 02:31:03 PM »
Got a good picture this afternoon before the ride though. My friend’s Harley something or other.


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« Reply #2019 on: June 01, 2019, 11:02:20 PM »
Ughhhhh. That SUCKS!!
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2020 on: June 01, 2019, 11:56:48 PM »
Still won’t start. This feels permanent, haha.
Intermittent problems are the worst!  Whatever has been causing the shutdowns has failed completely now. That should make getting to the bottom of this easier for C5 to diagnose/trace to the faulty component or portion of the circuit so he can engineer a fix. At least that is how it is suppose to work when troubleshooting an electrical component failure...
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« Reply #2021 on: June 02, 2019, 12:16:11 AM »
dave, regarding your clutch problem: maybe try adding another pair of plates?
i did this after some advice who uses it on his 550 racer which i think  makes about 70hp, so it should work for you as well: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,145565.25.html

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« Reply #2022 on: June 02, 2019, 04:53:24 AM »
Yes, David, that‘s my plan for today. See if it’s the coils or see if it’s the plate.

I DID confirm with a spare plug that there’s no spark.

Is there a way to test the trigger wire’s voltage? Maybe best to ask Paul at C5 but hypothetically, if the coils are getting 12v and have a good ground is there a way to test the trigger wire voltage? I don’t know what it outputs and it being pulses not sure what I’d be looking for.

Edit: C5 has a good troubleshooting page. I’ll do this and report back. http://www.c5ignitions.com/troubleshooting.html

And also, if I can confirm the plate is good and just the coils are bad, Paul offers a one time purchase of additional coils at a reduced price (maybe that sheds some light to how sensitive these coils are). I could get those and then sell the unit to someone with something other than a 650. Or, I just tell Paul what’s going on and maybe send him the unit to test and eat all the cost of the converter he just sold me and the entire C5 system and just move on to a Dyna or something.

Are there other ignitions that are out there that could be made to work on the 650?

I just know about these:
Dynatek
C5
PAMCO
The one that Dave500 was talking about, I can’t find the name...

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2023 on: June 02, 2019, 04:59:07 AM »
dave, regarding your clutch problem: maybe try adding another pair of plates?
i did this after some advice who uses it on his 550 racer which i think  makes about 70hp, so it should work for you as well: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,145565.25.html

The clutch hasn’t ever slipped on the street. Just the dyno. But even with the heavy springs that are currently in there the clutch lever feels totally fine. I’m going to leave it as is. Thanks for the link though, more stuff to read while I’m not riding, haha.

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Re: Patina Hyena - 550/650 674cc Hybrid Cafe Build
« Reply #2024 on: June 02, 2019, 05:01:39 AM »
Ughhhhh. That SUCKS!!

I know, but now I feel bad for you having the C5. Is it still in the box or is it installed? If I get the Dyna or something and that ends up eliminating my problems will you still try the C5 or return it and mirror what I end up doing?