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How do you prove you're "clean"?
« on: September 03, 2014, 06:40:49 AM »
I returned to work today after a med leave of absence and as per company policy I took a drug screen test yesterday and guess what? It came back positive so they sent me home until another lab can determine exactly what was in my "sample". My conscience in clear on the matter, I simply don't do drugs or weed in fact I very seldom drink any alcohol. Don't get me wrong, there was a time in my life where I lost my fair share of brain cells doing stuff I shouldn't have been doing but that was 30 years ago. The only thing I can think of is the meds the ER Dr prescribed to me for the vertigo I was diagnosed with last Thursday. If there is any good news about it is that my employer is paying me for any time off until the second test results arrive.

OK so I know talk is cheap but just exactly how does a person prove they're clean even though a drug screen says otherwise?
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2014, 06:54:59 AM »
where I work if you have a current prescription for what ever they find in you  you are ok to return to work.that is unless the stuff they give you should not be used while driving operating heavy machinery etc.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2014, 07:05:48 AM »
I just got done talking to my employers personnel manager and he told me that another lab will test my sample again then a Dr. from that lab will call me to ask exactly what med's I'm prescribed and determine if any of those meds could trigger a positive result. He also told me that it wasn't exactly a positive result but as he put it a non-negative result meaning something fishy may be going on.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2014, 07:35:33 AM »
He also told me that it wasn't exactly a positive result but as he put it a non-negative result meaning something fishy may be going on.

 ???  I'm not sure I'd take that very well.  We always had random tests in the military and failing one meant getting kicked out so I'm sensitive to it. Back in the day, you told them what meds you were on right then and there at the test.  Nowadays with HIPPA, you don't tell them and the lab looks at your medical record some kind of way.  That way, you're cleared if anything pops up based on what you're taking.  I'd want an explanation as to what was "fishy."
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2014, 07:59:57 AM »
I just read up a bit on the med I was prescribed called meclizine and found out it can, not always but can trigger a false positive result so I don't feel there will be a problem but I still want to be prepared for a worst case scenario.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2014, 08:52:07 AM »
I went to college on an athletic scholarship.  Tests were given pre-seasn and mid-season.
My room mate/teammate used to eat poppyseed muffins by the case. 
Several times he tested positive for opiates, and he was the cleanest guy I knew.
More detailed tests showed it really was the poppyseeds....

Get a detailed list of what you've been prescribed by your DR in the past year. 
Have it in hand when the labs come back.

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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2014, 02:53:42 PM »
Those 'on the spot' urine tests and mouth swabs are notoriously inaccurate, despite what the manufacturers might claim and should always be followed up by a lab test. When I worked with drug users this was a frequent bone of contention. Whilst many of them would swear on their own grandmother's life they hadn't touched anything although they of course had, there were actually a few who were trying to get off the stuff and they didn't take kindly to us stopping their methadone script on the strength of one of these tests, because it left them with no option other than to buy methadone on the black market, or go back to using opiates. Used to get really messy when they were trying to regain custody of their kids from Social Services care, as of course with a positive result they had no chance. Those results were (and still are) contested and are often proved to be false. Actually poppy seeds are known to produce a positive result as these tests are highly sensitive. Some prescribed medications can give a positive for amphetamine, any codeine-based painkiller will produce a positive for opiates too. The lab test, along with a list of any meds you might be on, should be reassurance enough for your employer.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2014, 05:31:51 PM »
I actually had to go through this about 6 years ago when I broke some ribs and my Dr gave me some whoop yo ass pain meds however I was forewarned that the pain meds would show up on a drug screen, when time came for a drug screen sure enough a false pos showed up but the Dr giving me the test was right there and showed me the results. After telling him what pain med I was on and a quick call to the pharmacy to confirm I had a prescription for it was all he needed to know and all was well right on the spot.

This time was different because I wasn't given any forewarning at all that the med they were prescribing me may show up as a false pos or non neg however you want to look at it so when I went in to give a piss sample yesterday I simply filled the cup, handed it to the nurse, no questions were asked about any meds I was on nor was I told what the result was so out the door I went not knowing what the result was until I showed up for work today. I could've saved them some time and effort if they had just asked yesterday but maybe the nurse didn't want to deal with any sort of conflict. All in all I feel rather fortunate because my employer is allowing me a 2nd chance so to speak by having the sample tested more thoroughly to reveal the cause of the false pos and paying me for the time off as the lab tests it again. With that in mind I hope the lab takes its sweet time testing. :)
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2014, 02:35:26 AM »
Still no call from the lab yet, I guess it's kind of like house arrest because I don't dare want to leave the house for very long because that just might be the time the lab Dr calls. I'm getting paid for this time off and my wife made the comment that I'm getting paid to work on my bike and she's right. I've gotten a lot of work done to my Gold Wing project while waiting for a call and I just might get the bike road worthy before the weather turns cold.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2014, 03:06:15 AM »
My company has random testing also. I guess all companys do now. My name hasn't been pulled out of a hat to be tested in a while so Im sure it's about time :-\ I have nothing to worry about hadn't done drugs in many, many years ;D Really all I ever did was smoke my fair share of weed and who didn't back in the 70's right ;) I hope this second test gets things straight for you, Good luck.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2014, 03:28:33 AM »
My company has random testing also. I guess all companys do now. My name hasn't been pulled out of a hat to be tested in a while so Im sure it's about time :-\ I have nothing to worry about hadn't done drugs in many, many years ;D Really all I ever did was smoke my fair share of weed and who didn't back in the 70's right ;) I hope this second test gets things straight for you, Good luck.

Mine wasn't a random test nor do we have them at least not yet. However anytime someone gets hurt at work they must have a drug screen test at the hospital and or have one the day before returning to work from a medical leave of absence so in my case I knew I had to take the drug screen. Random testing doesn't bother me one bit because I've got nothing to hide and if that's what it takes to clear me then I'm all for it. 8)
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 11:45:17 AM »
It's all good now, I just got a call from my employer saying my second lab results showed I was clean. Kinda sucks though because now I have to go back to work tomorrow.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 11:51:18 AM »
It's all good now, I just got a call from my employer saying my second lab results showed I was clean. Kinda sucks though because now I have to go back to work tomorrow.

Great!

I know it sucks to go back to work, but the other option is much worse, been there much longer than I ever wished for.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 12:16:31 PM »
It's all good now, I just got a call from my employer saying my second lab results showed I was clean. Kinda sucks though because now I have to go back to work tomorrow.

Great!

I know it sucks to go back to work, but the other option is much worse, been there much longer than I ever wished for.

My supervisors will no doubt be poking fun at me saying stuff like "We're going to have to get our $'s worth out of you from all those paid days off" :)
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 12:43:34 PM »
we have roadside drug testing here,you put a sample plastic spoon thing in your mouth then they insert it into a machine,its on tv made into a show,some test pos so the driver has to walk,then sometimes the lab test comes back neg and they are clear,some are obviously druggies and the car gets searched etc,they even lab test the ones that show neg,id be more than peeved if I had to leave my car or bike roadside because of a wrong result!
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 01:55:27 PM »
Does anyone know how Washington and Colorado are dealing with truckers subject to the federally mandated  random tests now that they have legalized the Demon Weed !!
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 02:06:25 PM »
Does anyone know how Washington and Colorado are dealing with truckers subject to the federally mandated  random tests now that they have legalized the Demon Weed !!

I think you'll find that weed is treated the same as alcohol, probably a zero limit, especially for truck drivers, bus drivers, cabs and situations like that.... ;)
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2014, 02:18:22 PM »
I figure you are correct.It is troubling in that pot is detectable a very long time after the desirable effects have worn off.Most drugs including alcohol are undetectable far sooner.
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 03:19:55 PM »
It's all good now, I just got a call from my employer saying my second lab results showed I was clean. Kinda sucks though because now I have to go back to work tomorrow.

Nice one, now get back to work. Oh, and if you have a lot of catching up to do, I gotta line on something that'll help you get it done in quick time ;) ;D
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2014, 02:20:38 PM »
Even my boss who's not the type to hand out compliments all that easily told me he was glad to see me back today. Most of the teasing I got was from fellow workers wanting to know what drug it was I took that got me almost a weeks paid vacation. :) It wasn't my idea of a vacation but I did get a lot done to my bike
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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 04:39:08 PM »
Won't ever have to worry about that.
My job does not test unless in an car accident.

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Re: How do you prove you're "clean"?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2014, 08:47:56 PM »
I hydroplaned my company's Taurus into a ditch backwards after hitting water on the road.
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