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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #825 on: March 16, 2015, 05:06:09 am »
Is that so? Wow, news to me. Interesting.

Ron, those aux fuel tanks are invaluable, damn near essential for carb sync. I think you'll be glad to own one. My shopmate also has a full-on used IV stand to hang it from (on wheels) also highly useful for us.
Hmmmm, now you have me thinking.  I have a great sister-in-law who's a nurse.  I'm wondering if I can score an IV stand somehow now?  ::)
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #826 on: March 16, 2015, 06:25:11 am »
Is that so? Wow, news to me. Interesting.

Ron, those aux fuel tanks are invaluable, damn near essential for carb sync. I think you'll be glad to own one. My shopmate also has a full-on used IV stand to hang it from (on wheels) also highly useful for us.
Hmmmm, now you have me thinking.  I have a great sister-in-law who's a nurse.  I'm wondering if I can score an IV stand somehow now?  ::)

If you cant get one,  I normally just hang from handle bars, or hook in ceiling with wire to adjust height
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #827 on: March 16, 2015, 10:02:58 am »
dont blov the carbs,,if you use one of this high gravity handels to mount the tank on..... ;)
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #828 on: March 16, 2015, 03:11:43 pm »
After having wrestled a couple sets of cylinders onto pistons with "homebrewed" solutions, and seeing you guys making use of the proper tools, I broke down and shelled out a whopping $40 for my own set:




"Piston Sliders" straight from Honda! I figured they would have been discontinued by now. Maybe they are still used for newer models? Don't see why they wouldn't. I'll bet Bill would know...  ;)  8)
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #829 on: March 16, 2015, 03:16:50 pm »
After having wrestled a couple sets of cylinders onto pistons with "homebrewed" solutions, and seeing you guys making use of the proper tools, I broke down and shelled out a whopping $40 for my own set:




"Piston Sliders" straight from Honda! I figured they would have been discontinued by now. Maybe they are still used for newer models? Don't see why they wouldn't. I'll bet Bill would know...  ;)  8)

Wait, what?  Where did you buy those?  Did you find some on eBay?  Because I would definitely buy myself a set.  Having used Bill's and seeing just how much they help, I'm of the opinion it's not worth trying to do them without a set of those.
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #830 on: March 16, 2015, 05:46:55 pm »
+1, please post the part number, I'll grab a set too.

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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #831 on: March 16, 2015, 05:52:38 pm »
Honda part number 07954-3000000 (from the manual). The single part number includes both pieces (as indicated in the manual) since two pieces are required to do the job. With shipping it was $48.66.
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Cam Tower Studs: https://www.mcmaster.com/#93210a017/=t19sgp
Clean up that nasty harness: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=137351.msg1549191#msg1549191
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http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,139544.msg1579364.html#msg1579364
                                          
Charging system diagnosis: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=1012.msg8345#msg8345
Get the manuals: http://manuals.sohc4.net/cb750k/
The Dragon: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=45183.msg1571675#msg1571675
Headlight Switch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=113986.msg1283236#msg1283236
Branden's leak free top end thread: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=107040.0
Engine Lifting Made Easy: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,58210.msg1684742.html#msg1684742
                                      http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1675840.html#msg1675840
Static and Dynamic Timing: http://www.hondachopper.com/garage/carb_info/timing/timing1.html
Airbox Gasket Replacement: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,114485.msg1290000.html#msg1290000
"Café" : http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,84697.msg953814.html#msg953814
PD Carb Choke Linkage: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,100352.msg1669248.html#msg1669248
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Tank Latch: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,165975.msg1919495.html#msg1919495
Shorten your forks: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-shorten-forks-td4042465.html DO NOT CUT THE SPRINGS!
Clutch How To: http://vintage-and-classic-honda-s.456789.n3.nabble.com/How-to-change-and-adjust-a-clutch-SOHC-td4040391.html
Late model K7/K8/F2/F3 front sprocket cover removal: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,178428.msg2072279.html#msg2072279
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #832 on: March 16, 2015, 05:59:52 pm »
Thanks, ordered.

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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #833 on: March 17, 2015, 06:57:16 pm »
Logan and I finally decided to register the bike in Vermont.  We had considered just registering it here in Georgia but decided to do the Vermont thing and then register it in Georgia to try and get a title for it.

So I'm filling out the form right now but not sure how to calculate the fees so I can send in a check with the application for the proper amount.  Anyone know how to calculate that?
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #834 on: March 17, 2015, 07:12:15 pm »


So I'm filling out the form right now but not sure how to calculate the fees so I can send in a check with the application for the proper amount.  Anyone know how to calculate that?

Yes, call them at 802-334-3363 and they will tell you the value of the bike and the fees.
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« Reply #835 on: March 17, 2015, 07:15:21 pm »


So I'm filling out the form right now but not sure how to calculate the fees so I can send in a check with the application for the proper amount.  Anyone know how to calculate that?

Yes, call them at 802-334-3363 and they will tell you the value of the bike and the fees.

Excellent.  Thank you, Stev-o. 
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #836 on: March 18, 2015, 02:18:00 am »
Honda part number 07954-3000000 (from the manual). The single part number includes both pieces (as indicated in the manual) since two pieces are required to do the job. With shipping it was $48.66.

Thanks, have used car type piston ring clamps and tricky to remove once piston is engaged, so ordered a set from DSS, but in UK almost double the US price  :'(
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #837 on: March 18, 2015, 05:35:49 am »
Guys, they are awesome. Stock bores they are the bomb. Bigger bores need 450 Honda ones 292 middle part number. 915 and bigger....back too clamps!  K, Bill
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #838 on: March 18, 2015, 05:41:57 am »
Like this one from Honda of Atlanta Northside Dr. and a few other shops... Roswell Honda. Had it since 82! All you need, but Ron I want a stand!  8) ;D Bill
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #839 on: March 18, 2015, 05:43:33 am »
Hey Bill,

Just curious because I've never taken the cylinders off my 750.  Will the larger 450 type work on stock bores?
Just thinking ahead if at some point I might need to bore my cylinders.  Also if you might know, will they work for a GL1000?

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« Reply #840 on: March 18, 2015, 05:46:23 am »
Should be the ones for a GL 1000. I'll try mine on a stocker, but think not enough compressing of rings, Bill
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« Reply #841 on: March 18, 2015, 05:52:25 am »
Thanks Bill!

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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #842 on: March 18, 2015, 06:49:59 am »
Guys, they are awesome. Stock bores they are the bomb. Bigger bores need 450 Honda ones 292 middle part number. 915 and bigger....back too clamps!  K, Bill

What he said!
I'll never touch doing piston rings again without one of these.  Once we had finished, I returned Bill's to him and it was the next day that we discovered we had put the cam chain tensioner guide on backwards.  We were able to take it apart and put it back together without taking the head back off.  But if we HAD needed to remove the head again, I had already told Mike and Logan that there was no way I was going to do it without the tool.  If necessary, I was going to drive 45 minutes back to Bill's house, borrow the tools and then return them back to him once we were done.  It just simply makes the job that much easier.

The chamfer on the top of the tool is perfectly suited for the chamfer on the bottom of the cylinder sleeve.  You just get the rings compressed, let the head slide down gently onto the chamfer and lightly tap it a few more times until the rings are inside....then pull the tool out.  It's night and day less effort, stress and worry about breaking a ring.
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« Reply #843 on: March 18, 2015, 11:39:58 am »
Got the tank sanded down and it's ready to do the skim coat of bondo on the 4 or 5 small low spots in the tank.  We couldn't resist sitting it up on the bike along with the seat.

Gotta say, I'm digging the "raw" look.  We aren't going to leave it like that but it is kind of sexy.







Very little left to do on the bike other than painting the tank and side covers.  Still have to finish the wiring.  We'll bleed the brakes tonight.  Chain guard needs to go on.  Then it's pretty much sit back and wait for the carb rebuild kits to arrive on Friday.
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #844 on: March 18, 2015, 12:27:48 pm »
Did you finally decide on a tank/side cover color?

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« Reply #845 on: March 18, 2015, 12:38:32 pm »
Did you finally decide on a tank/side cover color?

We did.  We're going to do....TWO DIFFERENT COLORS!  :D

LOL, well first we're going to do the Candy Gold color.  Logan and I both love that color but the problem is getting the decals to go on the tank.  We don't think that either of the 2 decal sets that go on the 78 tank will look good with the gold.  So I'm meeting with a friend who has a decal business this week to discuss having him make me a custom set of black ones that match the pattern of the 78's but don't have the other colors to clash with the gold.

Then, I think I'm going to go ahead and fix up the 2nd tank and buy a 2nd set of side covers and another petcock.  That set will be Planet Blue Metallic and use the decals that normally go on the black 78.

So, what I'll end up with is a gold bike for a while.  Then when I get tired of it being gold, I'll swap out the tank & side panels and go to the blue color!  8)
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #846 on: March 18, 2015, 02:34:22 pm »
I like your thinking Ron, being able to change the look when you want to. It's a bit like my choice in clothes - I have one blue pair of jeans, one black pair of jeans, and a dozen or so black T-shirts so I can mix and match. Don't need anything else. Shame I can't get the wife to see it that way ;D

I know what you mean about the raw look - I nearly went that way with mine, but the tank just had one too many dings in it.

With all this progress you'll soon be twiddling your thumbs. Got another project in mind?
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #847 on: March 18, 2015, 03:00:43 pm »
The bike is looking great.  I think with the shape of the tank, the Planet Blue is going to look fantastic.
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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #848 on: March 18, 2015, 03:29:43 pm »

Gotta say, I'm digging the "raw" look.  We aren't going to leave it like that but it is kind of sexy.

Yes, I like it too. Here is my current K7 project...

'74 "Big Bang" Honda 750K [836].....'76 Honda 550F.....K3 Park Racer!......and a Bomber!............plus plus plus.........

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Re: Senior project for high school - 78 CB750K
« Reply #849 on: March 18, 2015, 03:42:08 pm »
Man you are FLYING on the bike build now that the engine is assembled!  Makes me excited to get mine done!  I need to order a ton of electronics though...

Im ordering those piston clamps RIGHT NOW!