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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2014, 04:24:45 PM »
Quote from: calj737 on October 28, 2014, 01:57:51 PM
Revive- if you rotate the thumb on the peg-end whe the shifter rod connects so that it is pointing up, your shift pattern will return to 1-down, 4-up. The orientation of that thumb and the shift spline matters. When they are opposed, it reverses your pattern.  ;)

The only problem I have ran into when the thumb tab is pointing up, is that it ruins shoes. That's a funny thing to complain about. It's a catch 22 in my opinion. Either have the "correct" shifting pattern and ruin shoes or just have it the opposite and keep my shoes nice, long. :D
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« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2014, 04:57:29 PM »
Then rotate both thumbs down.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2014, 04:58:05 PM »
Get a little shifter sock!!
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2014, 08:17:23 PM »
Quote from: Slinky on October 28, 2014, 04:58:05 PM
Get a little shifter sock!!

This could work


Or maybe this



But...honestly I don't care too much. Just makes me pay more attention while riding.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2014, 06:00:13 PM »
Hey man did your rearsets screw in the factory passenger holes? Mine don't seem to work... looks like I have to drill them out for them to work.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2014, 07:10:04 PM »
Quote from: Slinky on October 29, 2014, 06:00:13 PM
Hey man did your rearsets screw in the factory passenger holes? Mine don't seem to work... looks like I have to drill them out for them to work.

Yes, they slid right in. No issues what so ever. I don't have a bit big enough for the passenger pegs, so there wouldn't really be a way for me to drill them out either way...
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2014, 07:26:02 PM »
Damn mine seem to be different threads!
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2014, 07:46:11 PM »
Hold on, mine aren't screwed into the passenger peg. They are just using that hole. They are bolted on.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2014, 07:47:36 PM »
damn! ok stupid F frame
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2014, 07:54:25 PM »
one more ?    Did you have to use the rear brake return spring?
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« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2014, 07:56:57 PM »
That's funny you ask. No the brake just returns on its own...I never really though of that. I just took it all off and said what ever...here's a photo of that. I'm not sure if you can see it or not...
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2014, 08:07:53 PM »
sweet I thought it would stick or drag. I could use my mounts by cutting off the rear brake spline like it says ( cognito mount with tarozzi) ... just thought I had to run the return spring..
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2014, 08:24:18 PM »
Quote from: Slinky on October 29, 2014, 08:07:53 PM
sweet I thought it would stick or drag. I could use my mounts by cutting off the rear brake spline like it says ( cognito mount with tarozzi) ... just thought I had to run the return spring..

When you say "rear brake spline" what do you mean?
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2014, 08:26:58 PM »
the spline where the factory brake pedal slides onto, to engage the rear brake. that piece needs to be removed to bolt on mounting bracket
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2014, 08:29:55 AM »
Quote from: Slinky on October 29, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
the spline where the factory brake pedal slides onto, to engage the rear brake. that piece needs to be removed to bolt on mounting bracket

Oh yea, totally. take that off. I've basically removed everything stock. Besides the engine/frame and brakes.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2014, 08:55:51 AM »
Quote from: revive_the_550 on October 30, 2014, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: Slinky on October 29, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
the spline where the factory brake pedal slides onto, to engage the rear brake. that piece needs to be removed to bolt on mounting bracket

Oh yea, totally. take that off. I've basically removed everything stock. Besides the engine/frame and brakes.
Easy. Removing that eliminates the "reversing cam". I notice your rear brake is set up to "pull" not "push" Revive. That's because the splined cam not there any longer. If it were, you'd push down with your toe, the rod would actuate the lever forward, the cam would then pull the rear brake arm, the way it is designed. Also, without a return spring, you run the risk of the brake not releasing.

Your installation will work, but it is not advisable nor imbued with safety measures.

I removed my spline cam too on one bike, but then had to fabricate a solution for the brake arm. I would not recommend this modification for drum brakes.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2014, 09:05:00 AM »
Quote from: calj737 on October 30, 2014, 08:55:51 AM
Quote from: revive_the_550 on October 30, 2014, 08:29:55 AM
Quote from: Slinky on October 29, 2014, 08:26:58 PM
the spline where the factory brake pedal slides onto, to engage the rear brake. that piece needs to be removed to bolt on mounting bracket

Oh yea, totally. take that off. I've basically removed everything stock. Besides the engine/frame and brakes.
Easy. Removing that eliminates the "reversing cam". I notice your rear brake is set up to "pull" not "push" Revive. That's because the splined cam not there any longer. If it were, you'd push down with your toe, the rod would actuate the lever forward, the cam would then pull the rear brake arm, the way it is designed. Also, without a return spring, you run the risk of the brake not releasing.

Your installation will work, but it is not advisable nor imbued with safety measures.

I removed my spline cam too on one bike, but then had to fabricate a solution for the brake arm. I would not recommend this modification for drum brakes.


You are correct. Cognito Moto actually makes an adapter for the spline.


Here it is.

http://cognitomoto.com/collections/rearsets/products/honda-brake-lever-for-spline


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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2014, 09:06:54 AM »
Yup. But that requires the spline not be cut off  ;) exactly my point.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2014, 09:11:08 AM »
Yes, but the downside is that its 42 dollars + shipping. And To be fully honest I don't use my rear brake nearly as much as I probably should. In the motorcycle safety class they teach you like 70% front 30% back. But really I am 80% front 10% engine braking and maybe 10% rear brake if I remember to use it. I don't honestly ride hard enough or long enough/far enough to really be using my back brake a ton. So it's there, and it works, but probably not as good as it could work.
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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2014, 09:19:38 AM »
You misunderstood the class. It's stopping "power" not utilization. You should always use both brakes as habit. $42 to insure one's safety while riding is an investment that can't be beaten.

I recall you had a mishap earlier in your thread. By the prior statement I can't help but speculate this "technique misunderstanding" might have contributed to your misfortune.

Riders who only use their rear brake (chopper blokes) all tend to have bad limps. Sport bikers who ride only with their front brake tend to have twisted frames. Notice the correlation? Riders who use both brakes tend to give riding advice. Not meaning to preach, but trying to impart some wisdom-thru-experience and training onto a younger rider.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2014, 09:45:24 AM »
I have the spline piece, but then I need my mount on frame, to use the cognito mounts It requires the spline to be cut off... I just don't get it lol
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« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2014, 09:48:09 AM »
Slinky - you'd need to fab a need "holder" for the Cognito part as part of your bracket. Same problem, it's designed for the K frames, not the F.
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Re: Reviving the Old 550
« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2014, 09:50:47 AM »
im just pissed for $75 to buy a "bolt on" mount that requires a decent amount of fabrication.  They could of made it to go around the spline like the 750
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2014, 09:53:37 AM »
That bracket is sold for K models. You just didn't realize. Send it back to them. They'll refund you. They're very good people.
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« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2014, 09:56:46 AM »
I understand, it says its for the F but required removal of brake spline,... thought it meant the slide in part not cutting it off frame lol
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