Author Topic: CL175 and CL200? (Read 6603 times)

oconnor · « **on:** October 02, 2006, 10:32:37 PM »

Are these worthy of a restore? Also, I've found a superhawk scrambler. Is that a CL92? It's very rough, more than I would want to take on.

tazzmann · « **Reply #1 on:** October 03, 2006, 06:54:42 AM »

I am restoring a CL175 and have been collecting parts for it. If you don't intend to keep it after the re-build and if it is in pretty rough shape, then no, they don't return enough money to warrant it. I plan on keeping mine for my son when he is old enough.

oconnor · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:07:09 AM »

I would keep it. By worthwhile I guess I meant how big a money hole they would be vs just buying a nice runner.

tazzmann · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:41:04 AM »

I guess it depends on what all is wrong with it. Mine is in pretty rough shape and I am going to have to replace a LOT on it plus re-build the engine. But since my son isn't old enough to ride it and won't be for a couple more years, I can take my time and replace parts little by little. A lot of parts are still available for this bike, some parts are cheap, some aren't. Fenders, headlight stays, etc can get spendy. Also a lot of CB175 parts translate to the CL175, so there is another advatage. Once they are up and running they seem to be really strong runners with very little problems if kept up in the maintenance area.

csendker · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:45:10 AM »

I'd go for it. Of course, I have a CB175 that I'm piecing back together so I have a very biased opinion. I'm not looking for a showpiece, but rather a daily commuter that gets high gas milage. I've got an average suburban commute, so it would work great (no highways...). It's also a major learning experience as it's really just 1/2 of a SOHC4. And when I can ever get it running, I'll be much more apt to dig deeper on my only functioning bike to-date (CB550). I'm kind of paranoid right now about taking down my only scoot.

csendker · « **Reply #5 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:49:14 AM »

As tazz indicated, there's not a whole lot of difference between the CB175's & CL175's.

CL: high side exhaust & matching side covers, longer seat & matching tank, bellows fork tube, etc.
CB: dual low exhaust & matching side covers, shorter seat & matching tank, slider fork tubes, etc.

I've put a CL front end on my CB, and have mixed & matched seats & tanks (the CB tank has a more vertical slope on the rear than the CL). I'm thinking of a CL exhaust too.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #6 on:** October 03, 2006, 07:51:00 PM »

Quote from: oconnor on October 02, 2006, 10:32:37 PM

Are these worthy of a restore? Also, I've found a superhawk scrambler. Is that a CL92? It's very rough, more than I would want to take on.

Oconner, the Superhawk came in 250 and 305ccs. The 250 was coded CL72, the 305 was CL77.

The 92 prefix belongs to the Benly series, C92, CA92, CS92 and CB92 and are all 125cc.

Sam.

oconnor · « **Reply #7 on:** October 03, 2006, 09:54:20 PM »

CL77 then. Anyone interested? I can post some pictures. Not mine, it belongs to a friend.

Sam Green Racing · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2006, 06:02:08 PM »

oh go on then

oconnor · « **Reply #9 on:** October 04, 2006, 09:53:55 PM »

Ha! I'll try to take a few by the weekend. Just in case anyone wants to see...

nickjtc · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2006, 04:16:32 PM »

I have the '68 CB175 sitting in boxes, awaiting a cosmetic restoration. I was lucky in that it was complete and everything was in good condition, except the exhaust. I couldn't find an OE exhaust so have bought a CL exhaust and will make it into a CB/CL hybrid.

I just love the chrome sided gas tank.

For me it was an emotional purchase as my very first bike was a '72. I just love smaller bikes and can't wait to get it back on the road.

oconnor · « **Reply #11 on:** October 08, 2006, 10:11:07 PM »

I checked the steeringhead and it is a CL77. He has two he wants to sell. They are not the same year though and the motor is stuck on one, good motor and title on the other.

Pics:
bike one
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1270.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1269.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1268.jpg

Bike two
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1275.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1274.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1273.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y13/jwoconnor/100_1276.jpg

crazypj · « **Reply #12 on:** October 09, 2006, 07:58:37 AM »

First 'real' bike I ever fell off was a CB72 with CL pipes(and clip ons

) gotta love TLS front brake on wet grass.
PJ

nickjtc · « **Reply #13 on:** October 09, 2006, 08:27:01 AM »

Quote from: crazypj on October 09, 2006, 07:58:37 AM

First 'real' bike I ever fell off was a CB72 with CL pipes(and clip ons ) gotta love TLS front brake on wet grass.
PJ

Gotta love any front brake on wet grass!! At least it's softer to fall on.

RRRToolSolutions · « **Reply #14 on:** October 09, 2006, 06:59:46 PM »

I've got this CL175. I got one of these used when I was 13, this is it's replacement 35 years later. I rode it to school in the 7th and 8th grade, the 1st year with no license. I always enjoyed it, but it did a lot better on the street than in the dirt. The term scrambler was a little miss-used on this one.

I like the high pipes though. They added nicely to the left side's appearance.

oconnor · « **Reply #15 on:** October 09, 2006, 08:36:05 PM »

I always liked the knee pads on the tank. Too bad they quit doing that on the later years.

nickjtc · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2006, 08:36:00 AM »

Quote from: oconnor on October 09, 2006, 08:36:05 PM

I always liked the knee pads on the tank. Too bad they quit doing that on the later years.

Ah the joys of changes in 'style'!!

csendker · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2006, 09:04:18 AM »

I'm sloooooooowly working on my CB175. I like the kneepad look also, but their last year was 1969; by 1970 (my bike) the pads were gone. I was lucky to snag a '69 or so tank that I would like to refinish & use on my 175 (yes, it fits). Pads are there but the badges are shot. I'm using a CL front end because I like the look of the bellows in lieu of the hard sliders that came with the CB's - the front end on mine was mashed in an accident by the PO so I had to do something. I'm also considering the CL exhaust, but still up in the air on that - I like the look, but my kids like to ride shotgun and I'm not convinced a high exhaust is in the best interest of a passenger.

nickjtc · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2006, 10:08:38 AM »

Quote from: csendker on October 10, 2006, 09:04:18 AM

I'm sloooooooowly working on my CB175. I like the kneepad look also, but their last year was 1969; by 1970 (my bike) the pads were gone. I was lucky to snag a '69 or so tank that I would like to refinish & use on my 175 (yes, it fits). Pads are there but the badges are shot. I'm using a CL front end because I like the look of the bellows in lieu of the hard sliders that came with the CB's - the front end on mine was mashed in an accident by the PO so I had to do something. I'm also considering the CL exhaust, but still up in the air on that - I like the look, but my kids like to ride shotgun and I'm not convinced a high exhaust is in the best interest of a passenger.

The challenge is finding separate parts. There seems to be a lot of complete bikes, but a dearth of vital parts. It took me a long time to find an exhaust and heatshield (after getting one from CMS which wasn't even for my bike). Old style tank badges show up all the time on eBay. I'll have to fabricate exhaust attachment hardware since that stuff is hard to find, too.

I agree about the high pipe/passenger carrying issue.

csendker · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2006, 12:25:33 PM »

Mine is never going to be a show model, just looking for a high-mpg commuter that's reliable. Particularily one that I brought back to life from the dead. Asethetics is only what I like, don't really care what others think on this one. I've got 2 good headers and one serviceable muffler. The second muffler is for show only, the whole lower body's gone. I'm still considering the CL exhaust as I don't think there will be a whole lot of 2-up on this one. But you're right, the 175 stuff is a lot harder to come by than for my 550.

nickjtc · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2006, 12:39:25 PM »

Much as I hate to refer anyone to them, you could try CMS in Holland for bits and pieces....

nickjtc · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2006, 01:05:16 PM »

NOS CB exhaust:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/HONDA-175-CB175-CB-175K3-K4-K5-K6-K7-EXHAUST-MUFFLER_W0QQitemZ270035961149QQihZ017QQcategoryZ35596QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

csendker · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2006, 01:36:50 PM »

I've seen that one before...but from Bangkok, Thailand? Scares the hell out of me. And I've looked at CMS too, but I'm doing this on an extremely limited budget. Disposable income is scarce and the wifey hates my 2-wheel obsession.

nickjtc · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2006, 01:47:02 PM »

Quote from: csendker on October 10, 2006, 01:36:50 PM

I've seen that one before...but from Bangkok, Thailand? Scares the hell out of me. And I've looked at CMS too, but I'm doing this on an extremely limited budget. Disposable income is scarce and the wifey hates my 2-wheel obsession.

I hear you and share your pain! Oh for a lottery win about now. eBay is a good first place to look (set your 'favourites' as CB175 and CL175 and you get new listings every day sent to your email address)....but bear in mind that I will probably want the same stuff!! Also the VJMC has a good classified ads section in their newsletter.

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Author Topic: CL175 and CL200? (Read 6603 times)

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