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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #75 on: December 29, 2014, 07:35:35 PM »
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #76 on: January 02, 2015, 02:55:18 AM »
Quote from: wowbagger on December 29, 2014, 05:36:43 PM
Low pressure is probably air in the line. I'd start at the top an bleed the MC and each banjo bolt down to the caliper. I've also strapped the brake lever in and left it overnight to help air work its way up.


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Did just that wowbagger, bled from the top down and got a lot more pressure up.

Then I went on to my electrics - and promptly blew the main fuse the moment I turned the key. So I took a break from electrics for the day and fitted my mirrors (modified bar end mirrors $19 each local, now mounted on stock mirror mounting points), and wire brushed the engine to clean all that pale grey corrosion off. Cleaned the gear change lever, kick start lever and brake lever, painted the foot rest brackets and centre stand black.





Don't you just love all those fins? The PO before the PO fitted finned side covers and finned tappet covers. All to finny for me - I hope to replace all these finned extras with stock items one day.

Back onto the electrics tomorrow - I think I know where the short is...
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #77 on: January 02, 2015, 05:22:58 AM »
I have a set of spare covers from a '72 CB500 that should all fit your bike. I'll trade you for your finned set.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #78 on: January 02, 2015, 12:38:30 PM »
I don't mind the finned alternator and points cover, but the finned valve adjuster covers just don't work for me.

I know your plan is a restoration down the road, but I am thinking leave it be indefinitely. It's a perfect commuter/errand runner, urban camo bike that no body will mess with, and if some schmuck knocks it over with their car trying to park you won't be too broken up over it.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #79 on: January 02, 2015, 11:23:20 PM »
Quote from: wowbagger on January 02, 2015, 05:22:58 AM
I have a set of spare covers from a '72 CB500 that should all fit your bike. I'll trade you for your finned set.

Ha - you would not want them. The left one is missing fins at the bottom (you can see the breaks in the photo) and both covers are flaking chrome plate everywhere. When I do take them off you are welcome to them without a need to exchange!

Today I solved my short problem and got every single electrical thing working - except for the front brake switch. I need to test the actual pressure switch to make sure it is working.

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #80 on: January 03, 2015, 09:38:23 AM »
The flaking chrome doesn't scare me too much. I've got my own powder oven and blast cabinet.  I might try my hand at TIG welding those fins to fill them back in. PM me when you're ready to get rid of them.

If the pressure switch has failed the cheapest replacement I've found are switched banjo bolts.


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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2015, 01:41:32 AM »

My Lossa muffler arrived today, so it is time to get the bike running and get a pipe made up so this fits to the headers.



I have found that my home stitched seat is already failing, so whilst I might get the bike on the road with this seat, I plan to make the cafe seat pan as soon as possible. I am using a CB175 tank as the cafe cowl, it resembles the CB500 tank and will allow me to have a raw steel look on the seat pan.

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2015, 06:57:15 AM »
hvat are the cost of this muffler. and diameter  in intake.i like  to get 6 stk for my cbx
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2015, 08:03:02 AM »
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2015, 01:03:14 PM »
4200 kroner. 600$.it is some money..but stainles steel kosts..alternative are a pipemarster 6 in 6...uncel can you valk over and hear apreis for a 1978 cbx preis..my english are not that cool ..to make a prober e mail...
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2015, 02:21:39 PM »
Buy them from Cone engineering, Thats where Lossa and cycleX get them..

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2015, 02:26:45 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 08, 2015, 02:21:39 PM
Buy them from Cone engineering, Thats where Lossa and cycleX get them..

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And a few others, too.  Cone is run by nice, helpful folks, too.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #87 on: January 10, 2015, 03:06:59 AM »

Happy days.

The bike started today and is running okay. It sounds harsh on headers only and won't idle yet but I will dial it in once the muffler is fitted.

All I need to do now is get my front brake switch working.

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2015, 02:48:32 PM »
Score!

I have every single electrical thingy now working.

I am getting the muffler fitted Thursday.

I am getting the bike inspected Saturday for a club permit here in Victoria.

And last night - I picked up a full set of Tarrozi rear sets with all the right CB500/4 linkages from a guy who bought them for his CB750 and decided not to use them.

What a great week it has been - and it is only Wednesday.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #89 on: January 14, 2015, 07:39:32 AM »
it vill be snow on friday..... ::)..up here ve vait 2 month to spring.. ::).you have faund the right place..hot veather and cool beer
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #90 on: January 14, 2015, 11:14:51 AM »
Looking good Bro!

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #91 on: January 14, 2015, 12:02:51 PM »
Excellent news!  So....how about a video posted to YouTube so we can hear it running?
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #92 on: January 17, 2015, 01:46:50 AM »
Quote from: Restoration Fan on January 14, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
Excellent news!  So....how about a video posted to YouTube so we can hear it running?

One day I will video the raw awesomeness of this beast - but for now here are some photos.





I picked it up from the exhaust shop this morning, got it inspected for club permit road use, then took it back to the factory and fitted Tarrozi rear sets. I took it up and down the street a few times, adjusted the idle and the rear brake - and I will be riding it next week.

The throttle is sticky though - still running old cables. It does not return as smooth as I would like. Any ideas folks? Should I just go buy new cables or can I lube something up?
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #93 on: January 17, 2015, 01:49:45 AM »

So with the 500/4 done I should be back working on the CB450 race bike ...

Nup.

I decided to start the next seat for the 500/4.





Next step is the seat pan, then some riveting, then some upholstering. I want a raw steel look to match the tank.

Given I am now on rear sets and now making a cafe seat, I may end up fitting the clubmans ...
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #94 on: January 20, 2015, 02:54:35 AM »

Slight problem...

I went out for a quick ride tonight and the bike started to die on me.

I limped it back to my workshop where it died and would not start for a good ten minutes.

I also flooded the carbs.

When I got it started, it will only run on full throttle - any less and it just dies.

So folks - any idea where I need to be looking for this problem - do I have a blocked jet, or an air leak, I don't know where to begin actually.

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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #95 on: January 20, 2015, 04:57:27 AM »
First off, check your fuel flow. Disconnect the lines from your carbs, put them in a jar and turn on the petcock.
What do the plugs look like?
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #96 on: January 20, 2015, 01:32:41 PM »
Thanks Steve,

Given that the tank was bone dry when I filled it with fuel, it could have had a few flakes of rust come off.

I will check petcock fuel flow, might try to get some clear fuel line too.

And I honestly have not had the plugs out since I bought it - forgot about them. My plug wrenches don't fit so I need to get a long skinny one.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #97 on: January 20, 2015, 02:16:29 PM »
An 18mm deep socket will take the plugs out as well. No need to buy a special plug wrench.
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #98 on: January 20, 2015, 04:01:35 PM »
Thanks wowbagger.

Talking to Terry - I think I will also be taking the carbs off and cleaning the idle jets this weekend.

My thing is - I know once I have the carbs off I will not be able to resist doing a complete strip down and rebuild on all four, which would put me off the
road for a month.

So I will try to resist the temptation to strip ...
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Re: Maduncle's got himself a 500/4
« Reply #99 on: January 20, 2015, 04:41:32 PM »
By the way ...

Can anyone tell me what size 'O' ring is used in the float bowls? I have an excellent 'O' ring supplier in the same street as my workshop so I can get new ones on Saturday if I know the size.
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