Author Topic: I lost my agm scorpion battery cell caps..... Ideas? (Read 2001 times)

gregripko · « **on:** November 08, 2014, 12:13:22 PM »

I lost 1 out of the 6.....any ideas besides calling up agm?

goldarrow · « **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2014, 12:52:03 PM »

What's it look like?

Get new sealed battery

dave500 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2014, 12:57:16 PM »

go to a large bettery place and ask if they have old dead batteries you could find one on?

70CB750 · « **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2014, 12:57:53 PM »

I would go to our local landfill where they take batteries for recycling and try to find a used one.

Or motorcycle shop.

70CB750 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2014, 12:58:52 PM »

Great minds think alike, Dave.

gregripko · « **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2014, 01:38:00 PM »

Great ideas.... Thank you

gregripko · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:08:19 PM »

I ended up finding the sixth one.....

dave500 · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:11:34 PM »

Quote from: 70CB750 on November 08, 2014, 12:58:52 PM

Great minds think alike, Dave.

oh yeah?im thinking about a beer,what about you?

gregripko · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:17:43 PM »

I topped the cells off with distilled water and put it on a trickle charger.... However.... The caps keep popping off after hours of charging... Will this clear up with more charge time?

Stev-o · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:23:44 PM »

I only buy sealed batteries but aren't you suppose to remove the caps when charging?

MCRider · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:24:06 PM »

I thought the whole idea of an AGM (GEL) skorpion battery was that it doesn't have cell caps? Mine doesn't.

gregripko · « **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2014, 05:34:35 PM »

Not a battery expert but pretty sure there's a difference between agm and gel.... From my understanding they are made up of different solutions. One gelled electrolyte and one liquid electrolyte... Sealed batteries can be opened (with caution.... Wear gloves and glasses.... Don't want to burn eyes or mouth)....

Under the seal strip on top are the cell caps.... They're in there

TwoTired · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2014, 06:14:02 PM »

The whole point of the AGM (absorbed glass mat) type is to have just enough electrolyte to wet the mats between the plates. This way it cannot spill as the mat holds all the electrolyte. If you added water, you converted it to a wet cell battery and further, diluted (reduced) the acid strength that the manufacturer designed it to have.

Don't be surprised to have a weaker, lower capacity battery and one with a shortened useful life. They are "sealed" to keep owners out of there and from meddling with the technology. If you had a warranty, it should rightly be voided.

gregripko · « **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2014, 07:51:23 PM »

Is it possible for a sealed battery to go dry? Is it better to charge a battery if it's dry or to wet the plates? Btw I don't plan on using a warranty claim on a battery that's rightly passed.....I meddle with things but I'm not one of those people.

TwoTired · « **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2014, 11:16:26 PM »

Quote from: gregripko on November 08, 2014, 07:51:23 PM

Is it possible for a sealed battery to go dry?

I suppose if you overcharged it a good long while. Electrolysis will separate the Hydrogen and Oxygen from the electrolyte and it will vent to the atmosphere.

Quote from: gregripko on November 08, 2014, 07:51:23 PM

Is it better to charge a battery if it's dry or to wet the plates?

How do you know the plates were dry?

I shouldn't ever see a "water" level inside one of those. The mats will simply be saturated with fluid. It's like if you poured water on a towel flat on a table, just enough to thoroughly wet it but not have it pool so much that water can run off the table.

dave500 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2014, 11:39:26 PM »

has yours got little yellow caps?its probably a wet cell.

Deltarider · « **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2014, 11:44:14 PM »

Is there maybe a small vent hole that is blocked causing a cap to pop?

gregripko · « **Reply #17 on:** November 09, 2014, 01:13:33 AM »

Black caps.... Adjusted the voltage regulator to spec and wet the cells with a Epson salt and distilled water solution and bike has been firing up nice.... Also noticed my lights appear to be brighter as they seemed somewhat dim before. Voltage regulator was reading pretty low for 4000rpm.... (Below 14V).... Now everything seems to be in a nice working order.... Perhaps my leg can take a rest from kicking for a while.... Happy riding

dave500 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 09, 2014, 01:19:57 AM »

what ever colour caps if you didn't have to peel back a tamper proof cover you might have a normal wet cell battery,are they easily got to and within sight without any tampering?

MCRider · « **Reply #19 on:** November 09, 2014, 06:01:35 AM »

Quote from: gregripko on November 08, 2014, 05:34:35 PM

Not a battery expert but pretty sure there's a difference between agm and gel.... From my understanding they are made up of different solutions. One gelled electrolyte and one liquid electrolyte... Sealed batteries can be opened (with caution.... Wear gloves and glasses.... Don't want to burn eyes or mouth)....

Under the seal strip on top are the cell caps.... They're in there

Oh. Still learning. My bad.

70CB750 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 10, 2014, 02:54:14 AM »

Quote from: dave500 on November 08, 2014, 05:11:34 PM

Quote from: 70CB750 on November 08, 2014, 12:58:52 PM
Great minds think alike, Dave.

oh yeah?im thinking about a beer,what about you?

At that time Saturday I was drinking a beer

dave500 · « **Reply #21 on:** November 10, 2014, 11:36:35 AM »

we do think alike!

lrutt · « **Reply #22 on:** November 10, 2014, 11:44:24 AM »

Never seen an AGM with caps. And I do have a Scorpion in a couple of bikes.

dave500 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 10, 2014, 11:45:40 AM »

got a photo of your battery?

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