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Offline mboon85

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ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« on: November 17, 2014, 01:48:15 AM »
need my ignition coils replaced.

the ones coming off the bike read: Fl703-12v5 2 I  and Fl703-12v5 2 f if i read them right. can't find that exact label on others. what are my options on replacement?

will these work, from a 78

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1978-Honda-CB750F-Super-Sport-CB750-Ignition-Coils-w-Wires-FL703-12-/261664857138?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cec70dc32&vxp=mtr

any other ideas? aftermarket?

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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2014, 06:05:08 AM »
Stock coils rarely fail.  Are you sure that the coils gone bad? Set ignition timing spot on?
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 07:07:53 AM »
Check with Ohm meter to determine if they work. I've swapped different coils around from points bike to points bike with no issue, but always a good idea to test resistance first. I've had two sets of CB coils fail, and even more GL1000 coils take a crap. Horrible old things!

We manufacture coils but they only work with our ignition. If you have no interest changing anything else I have good luck spending a bit more and getting a Dyna heavy duty (green) coil if your budget can handle it.

Best of luck to you.

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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 07:20:25 AM »
Have you checked your plug caps?!

The 3 ohm green Dynas are nice and throw a helluva spark and using their wires will eliminate the potential cap problem/replacement cost. But that helluva spark can reduce your system voltage which can affect the battery charge state. May, may not. Might consider their 5 ohm coils too depending on what ignition you use.
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 07:39:30 AM »
And another option is Hondaman's transistorized ignition (if you desire to keep points) and some OEM style coils from David Silver or DCC lists some too. And don't forget about Pamco... All worthy pursuits-
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 03:49:31 PM »
thanks for the replies. allow me to explain:

the cables coming out of the coils and to the spark plugs are what's ruined. my more bike-knowledgable friend and i concluded we can't open the coils up to replace just the cables that run to the spark plugs. i don't remember the exact numbers, but we tested all around the coils with a voltmeter with limited success/very low numbers.

so we concluded they should just be replaced. would the set i posted from eBay work? Would any Fl703-12v5 from mid seventies 550s or 750s work? Those DYNAs look good but if i can keep it under 50 bucks on a used set i'd sure like to.
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 04:13:06 PM »
thanks for the replies. allow me to explain:

the cables coming out of the coils and to the spark plugs are what's ruined. my more bike-knowledgable friend and i concluded we can't open the coils up to replace just the cables that run to the spark plugs. i don't remember the exact numbers, but we tested all around the coils with a voltmeter with limited success/very low numbers.

so we concluded they should just be replaced. would the set i posted from eBay work? Would any Fl703-12v5 from mid seventies 550s or 750s work? Those DYNAs look good but if i can keep it under 50 bucks on a used set i'd sure like to.

For the CB750, you can swap all the following bikes' Honda coils in, and they will fit:
CB500-4
CB550-4
CB350F
CB400F
Any other SOHC4 CB750K/F.

The only differences in the 750 coils are in the post-1975 versions, when the primary resistance dropped form 4.6 ohms to 4.3 ohms and the plug cap resistance to go with them changed from 7500 ohms to 10,000 ohms at that time. But, any of these coils will fit, and any will run with either 5,000 or 10,000 (modern) sparkplug caps.

The CB500/550 coils are electrically identical to the post-1975 CB750 coils, at 4.3 ohms primary resistance. The 350F coils are USUALLY 4.6 ohms resistance, but toward the end of them and the start of the CB400F they became 4.3 ohms, likely the same coils as were found on the 550 at the time (but with slightly different spark wire length).

The Dyna 5 ohm coils are generally a better bet than their 3 ohm coils if you are not the electrically savvy sort, as they introduce a few other issues that can catch you by surprise.

There are also some nice ones at www.PartsNmore.com, in their CB750 section. You can use either the ones ending in -6822 or -6823, they both fit: the latter have the wires turned 90 degrees from the OEM position, but they fit (I've used some). The latter electrically match the CB500/550 and post-1975 CB750 coils, the former (-6822) match the CB750K0-K6 type more exactly.
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 09:01:13 PM »
The 70's fix was to carefully cut around the base of the wires in the coils, remove the material directly around the posts, place new wires on then replace the material you removed with epoxy.
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Re: ignition coil problem on 1975 CB750 SuperSport
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2014, 06:15:13 AM »
There are some pictures about half way down this thread that explains what Jerry was describing. http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=10429.0