Topic: 76 F model project- mono shock suspension(aka-Kingsnake)

[Medyo Bastos]

fabulous, could you also tell me if a second disc will fit that front end?  you've got my wheels turning.  geez, i need to start selling some hi-po parts to fund a new project 

[POPS 911]

FRANK in the 10's :  I got the two square swing arms out to day = # 1 measured 22 1/2" from center of pivot bolt to center of axel. front pivot bolt hole 14mm. , 3 3/4" longer than stock F-ARM,  Rear spread 8 3/4" [ which the arm builders on here said is to narrow ] top pivot bracket 9 1/4" wide , w/ slide in 14mm inserts, Square arms are 70.40mm high by 30.35mm wide , has dog bone and shock.
#2 = 21 1/2" from center of axel to center of pivot bolt = this bolt 20mm w/slide in bushings, top pivot bracket 8 5/8 " wide, rear spread 9 3/4" about the same as the F-ARM. Square arms are 70.43mm high and 30.73mm wide. NO AXELS FOR BOTH ARMS = my nephew a few years back took 5 complete arms to make KZ's a single mono shock and he took all the axels, spacers, bolts and nuts. They both have the pivot bolts and hardware.
SEEMS young blood TREY might want a extended arm for his SOHC, could he not pull it off and have TUROB-D do his magic ?
No 7.5" over from a stock F-arm in my outbuilding, sorry.....

[dragracer]

fabulous, could you also tell me if a second disc will fit that front end?  you've got my wheels turning.  geez, i need to start selling some hi-po parts to fund a new project 

Yes, that front end will allow the use of dual discs as the GSXR 750s and 1100's came that way. If you source a complete front end with wheels, rotors, calipers and clip ons you're good to go. I bought an electronic speedometer / tach/ signal indicator/ high beam indicator. It was an oil cooled GSXR but the Katana front ends should work also.

[Medyo Bastos]

'preciate your guidance!


...Save a tree, eat a beaver...

[POPS 911]

FRANK in the 10'S : Sent you e-mail with pictures of 3 swing square arms that I still had left over = one is the strong 5.mm thick the other two are 2.5 mm thick came from a SUZUKI RACE shop MSP. Shock, dog bone, brake arm for 1 and all have front pivot bolts w/slide in bushings, pull backs, no axels.

[dragracer]

FRANK in the 10'S : Sent you e-mail with pictures of 3 swing square arms that I still had left over = one is the strong 5.mm thick the other two are 2.5 mm thick came from a SUZUKI RACE shop MSP. Shock, dog bone, brake arm for 1 and all have front pivot bolts w/slide in bushings, pull backs, no axels.

Pops,

I'll check out the pictures and get back to you. The arm came to my office yesterday. I just opened it up. Looks good. I haven't measure it yet but will do so this weekend.

Thanks again.


 

[Bill/BentON Racing]

  Nice addition Frank!

[dragracer]

Plan to use it on a K model street bike Bill. Not long enough to produce serious numbers.

[POPS 911]

Run a pipe tap in those air holes = paint might have got on threads.

[cbr954]

fabulous, could you also tell me if a second disc will fit that front end?  you've got my wheels turning.  geez, i need to start selling some hi-po parts to fund a new project 

I'll take a good stroker crank off your hands  lol  and a RC head lol

[Medyo Bastos]

ive got them wrapped up under the bed next to 2 superchargers and 1 turbocharger!


...Save a tree, eat a beaver...

[POPS 911]

FRANK 10'S : Got that electric foot shift button, I will send a picture. Light's touch button we checked out = faster that a "GOT BRUCE" button. No push in just flick your thumb down.

[dragracer]

FRANK 10'S : Got that electric foot shift button, I will send a picture. Light's touch button we checked out = faster that a "GOT BRUCE" button. No push in just flick your thumb down.

Did you dry test it on the v twin?? How about a road test?? How'd you address the kill time issue?? Momentary button held in longer?? Long travel??? Shift minder to activate the light?" Kill the power at the coils??

[POPS 911]

FRANK  10'S :  Simply lift your toe at wide open throttle = 1-switch - two wires - making mount that you can adjust mil-second the kill. The shift lever is the kill lever. This bikes shifting lever was made for this simple tool. No effect on down shift as it kills when you lift only !

[Medyo Bastos]

frankie I picked up a set of 17" chicanes; front end with clip on's; and front and rear calipers; dual up front!  i will probably go rigid frame for now until i can find a titled stock frame. really looking forward to putting this stuff together!!!


...Save a tree, eat a beaver...

[dragracer]

Well, we're back on the new engine for this bike. Chips are flyin on the milling machine. We're matching the valve angles for the Kawasaki pistons to the Honda angles and moving the pockets over on th exhaust side. 2 down, two to go. Opening up the chamber on the he's next to get the pistons inside. We're either going to end up with a crossbred beast or a  bunch of scrap aluminum.

More info coming soon.

[gschuld]

You're a mix n match pioneer....

George

[dragracer]

You're a mix n match pioneer....

George

George,

I like trying different things to see if i can make it work. Its all about the challenge. Once the KAwasaki pistons are cut for the Honda valve angles and the pockets initially opened up and repositioned, its time for chamber matching. We're going to try to put the 36mm Mitsubishi 3000GT valves on the intake side. The stems are slightly longer than the stock Honda valves so the keeper
 grove can be recut in the proper place to get correct spring pressure. I got a great price on 4 stainless valves so if it doesn't work, no big deal. Got 2 full sets of stainless valves from Dynoman so i'll be putting a set on the exhaust side. We might have to reduce the diameter of the exhaust valves slightly to avoid valve to valve clearance issues. Shouldn't have any affect on performance anyway.  Compression should come in around 13.5:1 or greater.  Not gonna try to kick start this one- 24 volts onboard is the plan but i'll also be using an ignition controller that retards timing on start up.

Once i get the pistons and head done, I do a dry asembly to check piston to head clearances and then piston to valve clearance. If all checks out, it'll come back apart and off to the balance shop i'll go to get the entire rotating assembly balanced. With all the mixed and matched parts i'm using, balancing is extremely important to insure smoothness and longevity. Odds are this engine will see a mild dose of nitrous oxide  at some point so it has to be vibration free.

Wish me luck. I could be building a bomb!!!  Lol

I hope to post some pictures soon.

[Jerry Rxman Griffin aka MuthaF'er]

You ain't fukn around Frank!

What size pistons?

[dragracer]

You ain't fukn around Frank!

What size pistons?

Trying to do my homework Jerry. Its just 72mm. Didn't want to max out the sleeves just yet in case something goes wrong on this build. I can go 74mm but I don't see the need to be any bigger than 1030. No stroker cranks for me- too much trouble and really not practical for a street ET bike in my opinion. I'll get my big horsepower from reliable high   compression, not high maintenance, big stroker cc's.

[POPS 911]

Dam the man CHANGING HIS NAME = Frank in the 9's-8's in ST/ET on a SOHC 750....... you be the man !!!!!! Build my 750 HONDAMATIC so I can beat on the folks in OHIO with a South Carolina built motor from the best SOHC [ safe, long lasting, many win tickets = proven ] 38 year old 4 cyl. in a row. Then we can do that KZ at 72" I showed you on the table in my garage. That light one piece FRP body and FRP gas tank could make a well built HONDAMATIC 750A with never any rust in the tank and any fuel to run a long term racer. I got a new never open piston kit from CYCLE EXCHANGE I NEVER USED.

POPS      647 NHRA
PS. You kill any KZ motors I got a few with less than 6,000 miles for a street bikes that I bought from a builder of Legend car racer [ OAKS MACHINE SHOP ] in Logan , Ohio.

[dragracer]

Dam the man CHANGING HIS NAME = Frank in the 9's-8's in ST/ET on a SOHC 750....... you be the man !!!!!! Build my 750 HONDAMATIC so I can beat on the folks in OHIO with a South Carolina built motor from the best SOHC [ safe, long lasting, many win tickets = proven ] 38 year old 4 cyl. in a row. Then we can do that KZ at 72" I showed you on the table in my garage. That light one piece FRP body and FRP gas tank could make a well built HONDAMATIC 750A with never any rust in the tank and any fuel to run a long term racer. I got a new never open piston kit from CYCLE EXCHANGE I NEVER USED.

POPS      647 NHRA
PS. You kill any KZ motors I got a few with less than 6,000 miles for a street bikes that I bought from a builder of Legend car racer [ OAKS MACHINE SHOP ] in Logan , Ohio.

If All works  the way I anticipate, this should be very close to a nine second motor. The key is the chassis set up. I just want it to be reliable and consistent. No question it'll be deep in the nines on spray. I'm putting this bike together as enticement to get my older brother to race with us. We'll see how that pans out.

[dragracer]

Anyone have suggestions on an aftermarket oil tank?? The monoshock is going to interfere with the stock tank. I'll have to gut a stock tank to maintain the mounting tabs for the side covers.

[Medyo Bastos]

you might need a matic

[dragracer]

Did some looking around on a few sites and found that Cycle Ex has several different style tanks. I'm leaning towards the vertical style. Has anyone had experience using one of them?? It would free up space near the shock but eat up room elsewhere. Trade off I suppose in building a mono shock bike.