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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #50 on: December 23, 2014, 06:27:57 AM »
A quality aftermarket will be as good or better for I am sure a lot less money than a Honda branded item.
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #51 on: December 23, 2014, 06:34:31 AM »
Soooo... getting back to camchains: is the current stock Honda CB750 camchain from an authorised Honda dealer significantly worse than a good quality aftermarket camchain, say from DID?
The bike will be used for spirited street riding (if I want to go really fast I have a Yam YZF750SP).

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They are probably the same chain, different labelling. Esp if DID. I doubt that Honda makes chains. IMO
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #52 on: December 23, 2014, 12:49:40 PM »
Soooo... getting back to camchains: is the current stock Honda CB750 camchain from an authorised Honda dealer significantly worse than a good quality aftermarket camchain, say from DID?
The bike will be used for spirited street riding (if I want to go really fast I have a Yam YZF750SP).

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Just get the Honda one. There is a ton of extra you can buy 'just because'. It worked awesome for years already right?
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #53 on: December 23, 2014, 01:02:05 PM »
Soooo... getting back to camchains: is the current stock Honda CB750 camchain from an authorised Honda dealer significantly worse than a good quality aftermarket camchain, say from DID?
The bike will be used for spirited street riding (if I want to go really fast I have a Yam YZF750SP).

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Just get the Honda one. There is a ton of extra you can buy 'just because'. It worked awesome for years already right?
My local big box Honda dealer where I buy my goodies shows the cam chain as 'not available' on their parts fish.

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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #54 on: December 23, 2014, 01:35:16 PM »
OK, I'll see what's available, get pricing on both, and then decide.
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #55 on: December 23, 2014, 02:14:13 PM »
OK, I'll see what's available, get pricing on both, and then decide.

Why would anyone use the stock weak ,sloppy cam chain when the Camilla heavy duty chains are better AND cheaper.... :o  Its a no brainer....
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #56 on: December 23, 2014, 03:57:13 PM »
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #57 on: December 23, 2014, 04:21:29 PM »
I haven't seen anything but pictures of the water buffalo in years. That's why I think the way I do about the CB today. :)

I read this post and it came to mind today. We went to the local independent shop and there he had it. I think he's asking $6,000. I think you might get him to come down enough to buy a grab rail. Other than that it's all there and low miles.
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2014, 05:06:15 AM »
As at least two others here have posted, the stock chain is no longer weak & sloppy.


OK, I'll see what's available, get pricing on both, and then decide.

Why would anyone use the stock weak ,sloppy cam chain when the Camilla heavy duty chains are better AND cheaper.... :o  Its a no brainer....
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2014, 05:11:12 AM »
I haven't seen anything but pictures of the water buffalo in years. That's why I think the way I do about the CB today. :)

I read this post and it came to mind today. We went to the local independent shop and there he had it. I think he's asking $6,000. I think you might get him to come down enough to buy a grab rail. Other than that it's all there and low miles.
and it doesn't need a cam chain;  LOL

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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #60 on: December 24, 2014, 10:10:07 PM »
Today, if you buy Honda's own cam chain you get the heavy-duty version that is known as the '-410-' type (those being the 3 middle part numbers), which came out in the 750F2/F3. It has HD (thicker) pins, extra side clearance for the rollers (for improved internal oiling) and hardened side plates. They have subbed over the earlier ones to this number and offer just this chain, as it also fits the 350 twin engines. They show up once in a while as either NOS or new stock.
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #61 on: December 25, 2014, 12:50:22 AM »
Today, if you buy Honda's own cam chain you get the heavy-duty version that is known as the '-410-' type (those being the 3 middle part numbers), which came out in the 750F2/F3. It has HD (thicker) pins, extra side clearance for the rollers (for improved internal oiling) and hardened side plates. They have subbed over the earlier ones to this number and offer just this chain, as it also fits the 350 twin engines. They show up once in a while as either NOS or new stock.

Yes but isn't the Camilla and Tsubaki chains still cheaper..?  I don't buy the Honda chains but I read somewhere here that the Camilla's were quite a bit cheaper than the Honda chains...
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #62 on: December 25, 2014, 04:14:16 PM »
I think the Camilla's are Tsubaki's Mick, every time I order a Tsubaki from Z1 entreprises, it comes in a Camilla box. Last couple I bought were 26 bucks each, and they look heaps beefier than the new Honda chain I bought for my F2. Cheers, Terry. ;D
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2014, 04:49:48 AM »
I think the Camilla's are Tsubaki's Mick, every time I order a Tsubaki from Z1 entreprises, it comes in a Camilla box. Last couple I bought were 26 bucks each, and they look heaps beefier than the new Honda chain I bought for my F2. Cheers, Terry. ;D


Terry, is the chain you speak of an endless type, or does it require a master link?

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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2014, 11:22:34 AM »
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Re: Cam chain myth, true or false?
« Reply #65 on: December 26, 2014, 02:17:08 PM »
'Good buy 'to broken cam chains, ha ha! :)
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