Topic: 1970's alternative iconic bikes ??

[ascanio1]

Please vote in my new poll:http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=144002.msg1637637#msg1637637.

The poll in this thread is closed due to a misleading title.

Which were the 2 fastest, most iconic & desirable alternatives to the CB750K in the 70s? I would like help to decide which 2 or 3 bikes, not more (budget constraints), were alternative to the CB750 K and would help rekindle the feeling of a specific era, the '70s when riders enjoyed to race each other on the open streets and then pose outside cafés to show off their bikes. Somewhat like the British motorcycle world of cafe racers of the time, but stock."

The bike must fit the following parameters:
1. Fastest on the street;
2. Turned more heads / desirable;
3. Accessibly priced;
4. Sold from 1969 to 1979;

It's obvious that a 1980's bike would be faster and more desirable than a 1970 one. So please consider each bike in its own time.

[754]

I just looked for Guzzi info. Wikipedia claims the 76 850 Lemans to be of the top 5 most powerful Motorcycles.   Hmm
 The one that I knew as a Burgundy 74? V7 Sport.  Lists them at 62 hp..I imagine pretty good torque..oversquare engine.. Probably revved nicely..
 Can't bring up any pics of a burgundy one.

[calj737]

Where is Fendersrule when you need him? Certainly we have all overlooked the most impressive bike ever made, the CB450! How could we have? The shame and humiliation is staggering...

[ekpent]

The original Black Bomber 450 from the 60's did make a few waves at the time and was Honda's big bike. Back to the 70's folks--------------------------

[754]

New member on here has a 458cc 400 four.. And a 73 v7 Guzzi.. We need his thoughts.

[Stev-o]

The original Black Bomber 450 from the 60's....

That is the IMPRESSIVE 450 I'd like to have.

[ascanio1]

New member on here has a 458cc 400 four.. And a 73 v7 Guzzi.. We need his thoughts.

Ask him to post pics of his Guzzi. I really want to see them.

I found a Jota with a damaged engine, no lights, ceriani suspensions, dunlop brakes (even rear) and a non original fairing. All for 3,000€: a very good price. If it's genuine. I am checking if the chassis/engine numbers match and are actually Jota: he claims it's a racer. There are 3 problems:
1. Seller seems very dodgy: I found the same pic online doing a google search + (sounds even more dodgy) he offers either that I pay shipping + bike to him or I pay for shipping separately and for bike directly to him. The dodgy bit is that he offers refund the bike price if the bike is not original... ( weird... never heard of such arrangement). I decided to offer to pick up the bike (UK) and pay cash in hand: I'll see what he replies. If he's genuine he should have no problems with that.
2. I don't want a racer so I would have to put it back to street configuration and that may cost a bomb: need to check for parts availability.
3. Online search shows that dunlop stopped making brakes in the 1960s. Why would a racer employ older technology brakes?

@ Simon Can you help? Did Dunlop make racing brakes in '76?

[754]

Sounds like a scammer. About three things pointing to that direction.
 Regardless of where he bike is,  tell them you will send someone to look at it, if they can't let go hat happen.. Not so good.
 If he is scamming, you will never look at it thru him, cuz he does not have it.

[750cafe]

Scam for sure. Ask to SEE it. 

Eric

[ascanio1]

Scam it is...
1. Offered to go see/pay cash - replied not necessary, he offered 100% refund if not happy. Never heard of before.
2. The shipping aggregator/consolidator company won't accept PayPal.
Too bad... I was hoping...

[simon#42]

New member on here has a 458cc 400 four.. And a 73 v7 Guzzi.. We need his thoughts.

Ask him to post pics of his Guzzi. I really want to see them.

I found a Jota with a damaged engine, no lights, ceriani suspensions, dunlop brakes (even rear) and a non original fairing. All for 3,000€: a very good price. If it's genuine. I am checking if the chassis/engine numbers match and are actually Jota: he claims it's a racer. There are 3 problems:
1. Seller seems very dodgy: I found the same pic online doing a google search + (sounds even more dodgy) he offers either that I pay shipping + bike to him or I pay for shipping separately and for bike directly to him. The dodgy bit is that he offers refund the bike price if the bike is not original... ( weird... never heard of such arrangement). I decided to offer to pick up the bike (UK) and pay cash in hand: I'll see what he replies. If he's genuine he should have no problems with that.
2. I don't want a racer so I would have to put it back to street configuration and that may cost a bomb: need to check for parts availability.
3. Online search shows that dunlop stopped making brakes in the 1960s. Why would a racer employ older technology brakes?

@ Simon Can you help? Did Dunlop make racing brakes in '76?

dunlop never made bike brakes at all as far as i am aware , in the 60's people modified dunlop car brakes to fit bikes with limited success
in 1976 the best brakes to have were either lockheed or brembo and as the jota came with brembo brakes why on earth would anyone change them

[ascanio1]

I thought as much...
Too bad. I was really hoping... the poll puts the 2 Kawa way ahead of anything else, so one of them + a Laverda would be marvellous.
Simon, please vote in my poll! :-)

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[kwbikr]

Really? You left the 1979 CBX out of this list? Fastest thing on wheels at the time it was released...

[strynboen]

yes he dont have the "nosser" to bay one...or drive it... ..danish for meat balls

[ekpent]

yes he dont have the "nosser" to bay one...or drive it... ..danish for meat balls

If 6 is good then 12 has to be better.      Where was that bike built Stringbean ?  There was a guy over in England I believe at one time adding cylinders to Kaw Triples that came out pretty cool.  http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/custom-5-cylinder-kawasaki-motorcycles.aspx#axzz3OM2Wq2J6

[flatlander]

underneath the pic it says it was built by a bunch of honda engineers in their spare time, from 2 cbx1000 engines and some custom made parts.

[Stev-o]

yes he dont have the "nosser" to bay one...or drive it... ..danish for meat balls

If 6 is good then 12 has to be better.      Where was that bike built Stringbean ?  There was a guy over in England I believe at one time adding cylinders to Kaw Triples that came out pretty cool.  http://www.motorcycleclassics.com/classic-japanese-motorcycles/custom-5-cylinder-kawasaki-motorcycles.aspx#axzz3OM2Wq2J6

Thats wild.....love the exhaust, looks well done. 

[754]

Was this thread about  iconic.......or cartoonish??

[ascanio1]

Really? You left the 1979 CBX out of this list? Fastest thing on wheels at the time it was released...

I didn't include it only because it's more of an 80'sbike than a 70's bike... otherwise it certainly would fit.

EDIT:
They're super cheap here... might get one for the cost of a dinner date in an expensive restaurant...
Is this the bike that you're talking about?

[754]

It wasn't the fastest..nothing came close to the TC
For
A
Long
Time

[ascanio1]

It wasn't the fastest..nothing came close to the TC For A Long Time

TC? What bike is that short for?

[754]

Z1R TC

[ascanio1]

It wasn't the fastest..nothing came close to the TC For A Long Time

Retro Rockets says that the GS1000 was way faster than the Z1. I'm confused... which is it?

[Retro Rocket]

It wasn't the fastest..nothing came close to the TC For A Long Time

Retro Rockets says that the GS1000 was way faster than the Z1. I'm confused... which is it?

The Z1R TC was a turbo bike, stick a turbo on anything and it'll be faster, they handled like a pig and were quite rare, the GS was faster and the benchmark for handling, we've already gone over this.... The CBX was a 70's bike, 78/79...

[Stev-o]

Tom - I think we all agree that the Z1 is the iconic bike to buy....start shopping!


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