Author Topic: first timer needs help getting started (Read 1961 times)

cbfivefitty · « **on:** December 30, 2014, 01:23:38 PM »

Hey guys I'm new here and just bought my first bike a 76 cb 550f this past weekend. I'm real excited to get it running like new again. I already have the carbs off and was looking on the internet for a rebuild kit for this thing but I'm finding it hard to find one that explicitly says for the 550f. Any recommendations on where to go?

flybox1 · « **Reply #1 on:** December 30, 2014, 01:33:20 PM »

you may not really need full rebuild "kits" just new soft parts.
4into1.com is a good seller.

only buy OEM honda jets.
aftermarket brass you would soon learn to hate.
siriusconinc.com
jetsrus.com
both of these provide good parts.

welcome to the forum.

ekpent · « **Reply #2 on:** December 30, 2014, 04:25:05 PM »

Yep I would start out just looking for a set of bowl gaskets if needed and clean up what is in there first. Not really much that wears out per say.

Stev-o · « **Reply #3 on:** December 30, 2014, 05:05:16 PM »

Welcome, the fivefitty is a fine bike. Congrats...

MiGhost · « **Reply #4 on:** December 30, 2014, 06:36:57 PM »

Gasket kits still available through honda.
16010-323-315
16010-323-305
16010-323-004
74-76 550K
75-77 550F

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #5 on:** December 30, 2014, 07:00:46 PM »

Thanks for the welcome! I'm looking at these sites but the pictures of the kits dont seem to match up with what I have . I keep seeing a big round o ring and I can't figure where it goes on this carb. Yea the metal looks good for the most part although the needle on the one I've already started disassembling looks ever so slightly pitted. But the rubber is all rock hard that's what I definitely want to replace for now just to get this thing running right.
Thanks mighost but I'm still seeing that big o ring I'm assuming its for a differently shaped float bowl than mine but Idk.

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #6 on:** December 30, 2014, 07:24:54 PM »

At work right now so I can't look for sure till I get home but I have some pics on my phone that might help. Hopefully it uploads right. I threw in a pic of my bike too in case that helps.

riverfever · « **Reply #7 on:** December 30, 2014, 07:36:49 PM »

Can't make out the number on that first pic but it will be stamped (627B, 022A, etc.) on that slanted portion of the carb right where the carb attaches to the stay plate (the aluminum plate that holds all four carbs). Like the others have said, you probably won't need new stuff other than gaskets unless you find something unusual. You just have to make sure that everything is surgically clean. Nice looking bike.

Flyin900 · « **Reply #8 on:** December 30, 2014, 08:44:39 PM »

The large round O ring is your bowl gasket that you see in the online kits. It needs to be formed to the bowl shape, or some sellers have a preformed shape that is a little easier to work with.

+1 on the 4 into 1 seller, I have had great service and quality/reasonable parts prices from them.

Very new here to this forum too and second the great looking bike and welcome.

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #9 on:** December 30, 2014, 09:02:44 PM »

069A I believe. Thanks for clearing that up flyin!

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #10 on:** December 30, 2014, 09:17:12 PM »

Ok I got this thing apart the slow jet is totally clogged but everything else looks ok. The needle looks a llittle pitted and feels slightly rough in certain spot Idk if that would effect anything though I'll depend on you guys for that. I can't really see the "needle jet" , i think it's called , should I try getting it out to take a look or clean it properly? I'll try to throw up some pics

dave500 · « **Reply #11 on:** December 30, 2014, 09:23:58 PM »

you need to lose them dumb pod filters,at least you have the better eary type one carbs,find a full stock air box induction set up for it.

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #12 on:** December 30, 2014, 09:33:50 PM »

Here's a pic of the needle the part I feel slight roughness.
then I have a pic of the main jet that looks a little chewed up. Lemme know what you guys think.

dave500 · « **Reply #13 on:** December 30, 2014, 09:56:36 PM »

I think them non filtering pod filters have let crud through,clogging the emusion tubes in your primary and pitting those needles,fine grit will pass those pods so easily and via the air bleeds do exactly that.

pods will let water and road salt through,those needles need replacing,they look corroded/etched,all the jet orifices cant be trusted either I think,probably have minute pitting aswell.

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #14 on:** December 30, 2014, 10:12:53 PM »

Figures, I'm taking the others apart too and seeing similar stuff.

dave500 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 30, 2014, 10:24:27 PM »

dump them pods man,itll run so much better all over with the correct factory airbox in place!you wont gain anything from pods except a #$%* fight like you have now,let alone running issues,who ever invented pods needs a right royal rodgering,along with the guy who invented straight through short exhausts,if your new gasket kits come with large o rings for the bowl simply use a dab of instant super glue in the corners to hold them in place.

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #16 on:** December 30, 2014, 10:46:52 PM »

Thanks for the tip, I'm sure I would have spent hours fighting that thing.
I gotta do something else anyway only came with three filters one of which looked broken. I'll do a little a research after I get these guys finished up.

dave500 · « **Reply #17 on:** December 30, 2014, 10:58:48 PM »

look close if corrosion hasn't attacked the carb bodies alloy passages?we don't have salt on our roads here,look where the main jet o ring seals,if its pitted itll never seal and will run rich no matter what,fuel will bypass the jet,hopefully not pitted/corroded,how do the leaf springs look that hold the jet in place?those carbs look great on the outside?

jaguar · « **Reply #18 on:** December 31, 2014, 05:14:10 AM »

I would only use OEM parts in the carbs.
Aftermarket kits all suck. Parts don't hold up well and many are wrong or don't fit.
99% of service stuff is still made by Honda for these old bikes.

Service the hell out of it and ride it for a long time STOCK.
A newbie needs to develop a base line. Also the added aid the manual gives you will be helpful.

Pods are a sure sign of ignorance. I will not buy a used bike that has pods. I assume the owner was dumb and worry about what else they messed up.

To rant a bike about "Customs" or "café racers" for a second.
Many are just playing a game of dress up, they should be more evolution then build. Ride the bike stock, then over time you figure out what the weak links are. You then upgrade them and go faster. This goes on for a while. That BS look that so many are after then just kinda happens.

martin99 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 31, 2014, 05:37:19 AM »

Pods???
Who the fecken hell put fecken pods on your bike. They're fecken sh1t and he must have been some dumb-ass fecken retard or somethin to put them fecken things on your fecken bike.
No-body who knows fecken anythin about fecken bikes would put fecken pods on, they make it run like fecken sh1t and everyone who sees it will think you're a fecken poser.
Get rid of them fecken pods or better still scrap the whole fecken bike in case the PO fecked anythin else up.

+1 on using genuine Honda parts where possible

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #20 on:** December 31, 2014, 06:26:59 AM »

How can I tell oem from aftermarket?

jaguar · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2014, 07:09:33 AM »

The baggie that it come in....

martin99 · « **Reply #22 on:** December 31, 2014, 07:47:39 AM »

On a serious-ish note, you may find that the PO 'tuned' the carbs to suit the pods. Check the jet sizes and clip position against the manual whilst you have the carbs apart, otherwise when you go with the stock airbox you may find it is running too rich due to larger jets

Chad · « **Reply #23 on:** December 31, 2014, 10:01:20 AM »

Quote from: oldskoolnuts on December 31, 2014, 05:37:19 AM

Pods???
Who the fecken hell put fecken pods on your bike. They're fecken sh1t and he must have been some dumb-ass fecken retard or somethin to put them fecken things on your fecken bike.
No-body who knows fecken anythin about fecken bikes would put fecken pods on, they make it run like fecken sh1t and everyone who sees it will think you're a fecken poser.
Get rid of them fecken pods or better still scrap the whole fecken bike in case the PO fecked anythin else up.

+1 on using genuine Honda parts where possible

cbfivefitty · « **Reply #24 on:** December 31, 2014, 01:45:18 PM »

Quote from: MiGhost on December 30, 2014, 06:36:57 PM

Gasket kits still available through honda.
16010-323-315
16010-323-305
16010-323-004
74-76 550K
75-77 550F

Ok so I'm gonna order a kit now. Any idea which one of these I should grab?

Old school, the main jet had a 100 on it. I'll check for the clip position when I get back home.

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Author Topic: first timer needs help getting started (Read 1961 times)