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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2015, 12:08:37 AM »
what ever you use hook them all to a common steady vacuum source first to check them,be sure they all read the same or close enough to,no point otherwise,some you can adjust a little some you cant,you might use a sharpie on the guage plus or minus on any errant ones?the analogue guage type must have damper screws or youll ruin the guage plus have no idea whats going on,you don't need colourfull fancy faces.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2015, 01:24:28 AM »
I have Mikuni Smoothbores without vacuum connections. I have to do the bench procedure and Gunson carbtune to verify.

I should choose Morgan Carbtune when al carbs easy can be compared. I'll see in the future if I'll have use for my OEM carbs. I need a new project.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2015, 01:44:39 AM »
that link was about as helpful as dog #$%* on white carpet?

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2015, 01:47:38 AM »
I have used-old school mercury sticks, emgo gauges, morgan carbtune, homemade manometer.  Morgan carbtune was the easiest to use by far, old school mercury sticks came in second.  Now if I could just convince myself that vacuum syncing cb750 carbs is even worth the time and effort,  I'd try out my Motion Pro tool.

I believe it is worth the effort, my cold idle and cold starts got much better after synchro.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2015, 01:52:40 AM »
if any four is way out itll have a terrible rattly idle?having said that youll be hard pressed to vacumm sync them to the nth degree though anyway?tightening the lock nuts makes them alter.

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2015, 02:03:20 AM »
I have those original thumb bolts on each carburetor to set the idle, quite the pain actually. Usually get it within 2 psi and thats good enough.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2015, 02:08:57 AM »
sometimes the more you try to fine tune the worse it gets?

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2015, 02:16:49 AM »
More like getting #4 to show any vacuum. Not sure what is going on there, but I have 3 the same and 4 will be way low.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2015, 02:32:54 AM »
you have the adjustment screws imbalanced to a degree,try winding that one up to get a response from it then adjust the others down to suit,your idle rpm may soar during the process,just wind it down if need be,it can be a juggling act!

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #34 on: January 11, 2015, 05:16:59 AM »
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #35 on: March 05, 2015, 02:05:16 AM »
I have a set of Honda carb snyc guages
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #36 on: March 05, 2015, 02:31:27 AM »
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #37 on: March 05, 2015, 08:42:00 AM »
just bought a morgan carbtune.
Very easy to use.

But about the adjustment bolts, there are kinda 'loose'.
when I tighten them there is still some play on the rod and when I move them I get a different reading.

is that normal?
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #38 on: March 05, 2015, 01:00:04 PM »
Simple, effective, acurate and very inexpensive, cost less then $20 to build the fluid (Automatic transmission fluid) isnt harmful to you or the engine. the second photo shows the dampers which are 0.030" mig welding contactor tips. can be built for a 4 cylinder with a few T fittings to make it split off into 4 pipes instead of 2



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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #39 on: March 05, 2015, 04:39:09 PM »
I got the CarbMate with the optional 4-channel adapter kit as a gift.
http://www.carbmate.com/

I've had the carbtune for many years and still like them. When I got the gift I tuned the bike with the carbtune then hooked up the carbmate and the reading were  the same but the carbmate has a better resolution. Now don't ask me what is inside the carbmate I don't have a clue.  :)

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #40 on: March 08, 2015, 10:04:03 PM »
I also have the Morgan Carbtune and it works well.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2015, 01:18:14 AM »
That's what I have been using for decades. Most shops here use the very same. You get what you pay for.

http://www.boehm-synchrontester.de/english_language.html


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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2015, 01:37:11 PM »
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Hi guys.
I'm looking to buy a carb sync tool. Any strong opinions on which one to buy. I'm trying to stay close to $100 or less.

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If you have only one bike to do, it isn't worth spending the money. A dealer can do it in 20 minutes and then you can ride tens of thousands of miles before you ever may need to balance again. I did the last 60.000 kms without having to sync. If you must, you can make your own 'Morgan' as described above for less than $ 20,-.
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2017, 04:52:48 PM »

that link was about as helpful as dog #$%* on white carpet?


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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2017, 06:32:33 PM »
For the price with the exchange rate, you're probably best off going with the Morgan Carbtune. It's like $100 usd these days.

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2017, 11:00:19 PM »
The US dollar is expensive today wich means cheaper Euro buys for US people
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Updates of the CB750 K6 -1976
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The billet block build thread
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CB750 K2 -1975  build thread
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,168243.msg1948381.html#msg1948381
K2 engine build thread. For a complete CB750 -75
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,180088.msg2088008.html#msg2088008
Carb jetting, a long story Mikuni TMR32
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2017, 04:15:38 AM »
If you calibrate them to each other in the normal range of operation prior to use they will all be super accurate. All you need is some plastic or rubber tubing, three tees and a syringe to pull vacuum and adjustable gauges. Basically you want gauges with the adjustment screws on the face.



Analog (Emgo Type) and digital gauges (industrial type) do not care if they are level and can read fine flat or upside down, you don't have to be concerned with liquid either. I like to pick my poison carefully. LOL

80-100  bucks should get you a decent hassle free tool.

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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2017, 04:50:18 AM »
If you calibrate them to each other in the normal range of operation prior to use they will all be super accurate. All you need is some plastic or rubber tubing, three tees and a syringe to pull vacuum and adjustable gauges. Basically you want gauges with the adjustment screws on the face.



Analog (Emgo Type) and digital gauges (industrial type) do not care if they are level and can read fine flat or upside down, you don't have to be concerned with liquid either. I like to pick my poison carefully. LOL

80-100  bucks should get you a decent hassle free tool.

You don't even need to make a tool like this. Just hook them up one by one to the same carb and make sure they are all reading the same number. Then hook them up to all four and tune away!
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Re: Recommendations for carb sync tool
« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2017, 07:06:16 AM »
If you calibrate them to each other in the normal range of operation prior to use they will all be super accurate. All you need is some plastic or rubber tubing, three tees and a syringe to pull vacuum and adjustable gauges. Basically you want gauges with the adjustment screws on the face.



Analog (Emgo Type) and digital gauges (industrial type) do not care if they are level and can read fine flat or upside down, you don't have to be concerned with liquid either. I like to pick my poison carefully. LOL

80-100  bucks should get you a decent hassle free tool.
That is one messed up medical tool :o ;D

+1 evanphi.  just calibrate them, one at a time, to one of the carbs.
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