Author Topic: Oh God!...it's an F model attack! (Read 8247 times)

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:15:50 PM »

I decided that the likely culprit was plugged oil jets. So I cleaned everything, new filter, fresh oil, installed a pressure gauge, and fired it back up...

550 etc 005 by seanbarney53, on Flickr
the numbers on this gauge are not to be trusted, it is just telling me if there is pressure or not. I have used it on a couple different engines and it just seems to read about 20psi too high, as the engine warms and rpms lower it does move around proportionately. So anyway, there was plenty of oil in the main gallery, and I certainly had oil pressure.

550 etc 007 by seanbarney53, on Flickr
but i was still not seeing much oil in the valve cover area. It looks pretty oily in this pic, but it is my experience that oil should be literally splashing out with the engine running, if everything is healthy

550 etc 008 by seanbarney53, on Flickr

goldarrow · « **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:21:08 PM »

My k2 that I'm working on didn't have oil pressure. I took out the pump and found the valve stuck open. Fixed that and pressure came back.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:32:45 PM »

I tried to let it run as long as I dared, in an effort get it hot and hopefully unplug the oil jets. After maybe 3 or 4 minutes, I thought I could detect slightly more valve train noise, so I shut it off. The oil tank was barely even warm. I have decided it is better to save the valvetrain, as I know how quickly they die without the proper oil supply. This motor will have to come out for inspection, at least. Realistically, I probably won't get around to this until mid summer. So here is how the F1 will sit until then.

550 etc 009 by seanbarney53, on Flickr
Also on the f0, I did get the tank cleaned out with vinegar and it is ready for my man to attempt to TIG the pinhole. Here is what it looks like. It looks all slimy from the WD40 protecting it from flash rust. I have since cleaned up all the crud in the recess too.

F1 Tank 010 by seanbarney53, on Flickr

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:34:42 PM »

Quote from: goldarrow on February 23, 2015, 08:21:08 PM

My k2 that I'm working on didn't have oil pressure. I took out the pump and found the valve stuck open. Fixed that and pressure came back.

Good to hear. I found nothing wrong with my pump and have plenty of pressure. Oil just isn't getting to the camshaft.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2015, 08:51:34 PM »

Thought I would share a little of what life in Michigan is like right now...winter sucks...I literally dream about riding motorcycles. My shop mates have taken an interest in old vans. These are not going anywhere for quite some time without some SERIOUS shoveling.

550 etc 049 by seanbarney53, on Flickr
After 6 years of serious use, abuse, and bike hauling my '95 Chevy Van lost reverse in the middle of a Blizzard. I had to snatch up the quickest cheapest beater I could so I could get to work. I ended up with this for $650. It has been sucking up wayyy to much bike time.

550 etc 050 by seanbarney53, on Flickr
Shop stays cozy and warm with chunks of dead tree and this big green stove.

550 etc 051 by seanbarney53, on Flickr

Stev-o · « **Reply #30 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:47:04 AM »

Seems it's always something with the effin F's. Are you a glutton for punishment?

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 24, 2015, 01:15:46 PM »

Quote from: Stev-o on February 24, 2015, 05:47:04 AM

Seems it's always something with the effin F's. Are you a glutton for punishment?

many would say that anyone who deals with old bikes is...I guess I would agree that the f's have significantly more dependability problems than the k6 and earlier. And I would also say that in the case of the F2/3, they have considerably better performance as well, when they are working right...we will see how I like this F0 in a month or two.

kap384@telus.net · « **Reply #32 on:** February 24, 2015, 02:27:20 PM »

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ofreen · « **Reply #33 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:35:15 PM »

Quote from: seanbarney41 on February 24, 2015, 01:15:46 PM

I guess I would agree that the f's have significantly more dependability problems than the k6 and earlier.

I guess I wouldn't, particularly if you are talking about the F0/F1.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:42:27 PM »

Quote from: ofreen on February 24, 2015, 05:35:15 PM

Quote from: seanbarney41 on February 24, 2015, 01:15:46 PM
I guess I would agree that the f's have significantly more dependability problems than the k6 and earlier.

I guess I wouldn't, particularly if you are talking about the F0/F1.

oops, forgot about the example of yours Ofreen! If only you were the previous owner of all these bikes!

ofreen · « **Reply #35 on:** February 24, 2015, 09:08:48 PM »

Quote from: seanbarney41 on February 24, 2015, 05:42:27 PM

oops, forgot about the example of yours Ofreen! If only you were the previous owner of all these bikes!

Thanks, but I can't take the credit for it.

The first F's were clearly put together right since I don't believe mine is a fluke.

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2015, 06:05:10 PM »

Update time...so the F1's motor got pulled

DSCN0548 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
I literally pulled this Madmtnmotors style L bracket out of the scrap pile...but then that is probably why it didn't work that good...but it DID work

DSCN0549 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2015, 06:17:51 PM »

some teardown pics...F1 bike right?...didn't catch on here, hmm nice lookin' rocker shafts

DSCN0551 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
finally, noticed not all was F1ish in my F1

DSCN0565 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
...hey wait a minute

DSCN0567 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
huh? what? ...duhhh

DSCN0569 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
oh yeah

DSCN0568 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

...so, it looks like someone stuck a K0 diecast or a K1 motor with unstamped replacement engine cases in my F1

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2015, 06:41:22 PM »

Unfortunately, cam and rockers did not survive the great oil famine. Not totally sure if the damage was done before I ran the engine or not. I did discover evidence of PO tampering, such as backwards cam bearing cap, and the probable death knell...a lack of O-rings under the cam towers at the very end of the oil passages.

So, I threw it back together with a spare K7/K8 engine as a running riding ugly mess and sold it for $900. I keep the K0/K1 motor for a future rebuild. Here are the craigslist pics...

DSCN0665 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

DSCN0663 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #39 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:16:53 PM »

So, all the while, I been cruising the F0...done about 1200 miles on it so far this season. Ignition key switch has crapped out...replaced thanks to Ekpent, suspension and handling is still awful with that annoying bounce between 40-50mph...have swapped wheels and tires from the F1, that helped a little...tried a better but still used chain, that helped a little more...brand new Emgo rear shocks that I got cheap at a swap meet, that helped a little more...but it still overall handles awful and has that bounce. Time to get serious, and I think this bike will be nice enough to be worth spending a little time and energy. The plan is Tarrozi fork brace, new steering head bearings, fork oil/seals, new chain and sprockets, fresh rubber will be needed soon, and probably by then, everything will be so much better that some real rear shocks will really ice the handling cake.

But the bike runs gooood, that is, after I ditched the crappy old pods...installed a Henry Abe breadbox just for fun...

booooo...see ya later!

DSCN0498 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
hey...that's not enough gas in there!......now fixed via the clear tube test

DSCN0500 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
HA Breadbox with new UNI foam...installed

DSCN0495 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

DSCN0496 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

Tried 110, 115, and finally 120 mains, runs real nice, even in wind and rain (which is about all there has been for the last 2 months

), might try some 125's though

DSCN0499 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #40 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:31:01 PM »

On the F0's cosmetic front...ended up lining the niceish red tank. Used the Caswell kit. I think it came out ok, but that stuff is a #$%* to use because it is so thick!...pics of my prep but I got to busy to take pics...this tank not get re-painted by me any time soon.

In addition to the rather pricy for what you get Caswell kit, the directions recommend about $45 worth of more #$%* that you have to buy if you don't already have it around...

DSCN0540 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
...protectin' my beloved o.g. paint...

DSCN0539 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

...got a fresh seat cover on the way, and hopefully, some Frankenbike sidecovers, if he ever answers pm's...hint hint

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #41 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:36:58 PM »

Here is what the F0 looks like. I have been riding it with the bodywork from my F3. When I get the seat recovered and the Frankenbike covers, the red bodywork goes back on, and the F3 stuff goes back to the F3.

DSCN0505 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

DSCN0504 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

dave the welder · « **Reply #42 on:** June 25, 2015, 10:23:13 AM »

all you need now is a matic i know you like them

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #43 on:** June 25, 2015, 01:15:47 PM »

Quote from: dave the welder on June 25, 2015, 10:23:13 AM

all you need now is a matic i know you like them

lol...hi Dave, I guess I do kinda miss coffee and bagels during my morning commute

dave the welder · « **Reply #44 on:** June 25, 2015, 09:32:14 PM »

you gotta do something with your left hand while riding

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #45 on:** August 15, 2015, 03:19:59 PM »

ok...new seat cover from Ebay seller Dis-covers, and the red bodywork goes back on...

DSCN0687 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

DSCN0688 by Sean Barney, on Flickr
new Frankenfrankenstuff sidecovers with fresh paint from Mr. Michael Guerrella(he on the left w/ the red shirt). I gave Mike a broken chunk of original sidecover that I got from Ekpent to match and he came up with an older Mercedes color. Emblems are not installed cuz my shaky hand non artistic skills ass can't figure out a good way to paint 'em.

DSCN0698 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

DSCN0700 by Sean Barney, on Flickr

Stev-o · « **Reply #46 on:** August 15, 2015, 05:37:33 PM »

Beautiful paint work....

Tews19 · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2015, 03:30:43 PM »

Looks good Sean. Keeper or onto a new home?

seanbarney41 · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2015, 05:28:13 PM »

Quote from: Tews19 on August 16, 2015, 03:30:43 PM

Looks good Sean. Keeper or onto a new home?

I dunno yet...actually just offered it up in trade for a '78 Chevy Van but I don't think the guy wants it...also just acquired a 77 KZ650, which the performance of kinda blows a stock cb750 away...so I got too many bikes again and need to decide between this and the KZ650...don't get me wrong though, I do like this one

Retro Rocket · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2015, 06:49:47 PM »

those little KZ650's are great bikes...

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