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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2015, 08:23:50 AM »
So you're shooting paint out of a compressor? I was going to say if you're doing rattle can, the best frame paint I have used is Duplicolor Fleet Enamel. It's super high build so it covers a lot of the imperfections and is really chemical resistant.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2015, 08:29:27 AM »
So you're shooting paint out of a compressor? I was going to say if you're doing rattle can, the best frame paint I have used is Duplicolor Fleet Enamel. It's super high build so it covers a lot of the imperfections and is really chemical resistant.

Correct, the paint itself will be shot out of a compressor.

Trying to order some inner tubes/strips but running into some conflicting info.

When ordering an inner tube, do you order based upon the wheel specs or tire specs?

My setup is:
18x2.5" F&R
110/90/18
130/90/18

This is what I have in a cart so far:
http://www.jpcycles.com/product/ZZ21763

Any input? Thanks!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2015, 08:45:22 AM »
Order according to wheel diameter and tire size.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2015, 08:57:03 AM »
I used this:

http://www.cb450stuff.com/tires/

and came up with:

5.00/5.10 - 18 rear
3.50/4.00 -18 front
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2015, 09:01:42 AM »
Ordered! Finally, jeesh.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2015, 09:03:00 AM »
I used this:

http://www.cb450stuff.com/tires/

and came up with:

5.00/5.10 - 18 rear
3.50/4.00 -18 front

As long as the diameter is correct the width isn't really THAT crucial. If the tube's a bit undersized it'll inflate and take up the extra space. What got there will work just fine man.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2015, 08:58:45 AM »
For starters, I had a pretty cute visitor at the shop over the weekend:



Justin at DC sent me a few pics of my jugs underway:







Wheels arrived, finally!



I tossed on my spare jugs, head and VC I had laying around so I could soda blast it:









Blasted it in the big bay in another portion of the building I rent space at.





Quick coat of primer with @checko. This is just for the short block. The head, jugs, VC, etc will be a different sent.



Also pulled a trigger on a CB650 cam and ordered a tachometer gear plug since I won't be running gauges.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171236921971?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT#

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« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2015, 09:07:25 AM »
This is coming together really quick. Looking so good man!
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« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2015, 09:08:48 AM »
I sure hope they didn't powder coat the deck of your cylinders? Sure looks as they have been shot in black from the pictures...
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2015, 09:11:59 AM »
I sure hope they didn't powder coat the deck of your cylinders? Sure looks as they have been shot in black from the pictures...

I'm pretty sure that is masking Cal. Can you imagine if a shop actually coated a gasket surface and bores? haha.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2015, 09:33:02 AM »
It looks like the green plastic masking material is adhered directly to the deck surface giving it a darker (black) look.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2015, 09:53:59 AM »
I sure hope they didn't powder coat the deck of your cylinders? Sure looks as they have been shot in black from the pictures...
Can you imagine if a shop actually coated a gasket surface and bores? haha.

Good god, lol.

Next up within the following couple weeks:
 Paint short block
 Receive powercoated jugs, sidecovers and valve cover
 Hone cylinders
 Install new KPMI race valve springs
 All new gaskets
 Install new cam/top end
 Paint frame & swingarm

Parts list to come soon:
 Motogadget M-unit
 Motogadget M-switch
 Dyna S Ignition
Dyna 5.0 ohm Coils
 Dyna DW200 Wires
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #37 on: February 17, 2015, 10:04:17 AM »
Also to note, those runs in the primer will be sanded down before the paint gets applied. It's driving me nuts just looking at it in the picture.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #38 on: February 17, 2015, 10:18:26 AM »
By M-Switch, I think you mean the M-Button -- so that everything wires into the button which sends a single wire to the M-Unit.  Cal swears by this set up.  I'm planning on using it on my next build.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2015, 10:27:27 AM »
By M-Switch, I think you mean the M-Button -- so that everything wires into the button which sends a single wire to the M-Unit.  Cal swears by this set up.  I'm planning on using it on my next build.

He does swear by this setup but, I will not be running the m-Button due to me only running a headlight, tail, horn and electric start. No sense in purchasing the button setup when I will have barely anything to run off of it.

http://motogadget.com/en/am-lenker/push-button-controls-m-switch/m-switch.html

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2015, 10:28:41 AM »
Not purchasing it until I figure out what clipons to run since I need to find a set of 1" instead of 7/8" for my internal throttle application.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2015, 10:38:51 AM »
That is a clean & sexy control setup. Subscribed.... but not just because of the buttons. :) Internal throttle setup? Gimme more!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2015, 03:33:59 PM »
OK, I'll be the first to say it.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2015, 05:23:54 AM »
Some pics of the primered short block again:







A little teaser on some of the powder-coated pieces:



Tomorrow the short block will get some paint...my jugs and powder-coated covers should be in next week. Making moves!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2015, 05:26:41 AM »
That is a clean & sexy control setup. Subscribed.... but not just because of the buttons. :) Internal throttle setup? Gimme more!

Well, was running into some issues on this. It's hard to find a 7/8th internal throttle setup since most HD setups are 1" so I will be ordering 7/8th standard clip-ons and have a replacement bar that tapers down to 1" or open the hole on the clip-on itself to 1" so it shouldn't be too bad.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #45 on: February 19, 2015, 06:12:17 AM »
Anyone have input on the color setup? My short block will be that Dupli-Color silver, high temp engine enamel...the jugs are wrinkle black and the head is staying bare, just clean. My thought is, thats techincally 3 colors on the entire engine...having second thoughts on the short block color but then again the only portion you will really see is the back-half where the trans/starter is.

Input?
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2015, 06:49:05 AM »
You might want to reconsider painting the head. It will oxidize especially with repeated heating and cooling cycles. It is not easy to clean once assembled into the engine, too.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2015, 06:54:30 AM »
You might want to reconsider painting the head. It will oxidize especially with repeated heating and cooling cycles. It is not easy to clean once assembled into the engine, too.

Don, I have left the cylinder and head on my old 400f project bare after media blasting. Oxidization never settled in after the 3+ years I owned the bike after that. I'm doing the same on my 550k build. It does not happen very fast in my experience. That being said, a coating is likely better. I just like the idea of not having anything being able to chip off.

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« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2015, 06:58:35 AM »
Thanks!

Well I've been second guessing leaving the head bare for asthetic reasons only. I agree, I hate the thought of stuff chipping. I just think it'll look odd going from silver block -> wrinkle black jugs -> bare head -> powder-coated hyper black valve cover.

eh? Maybe it'll look good? I'm over analyzing as usual, ha.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2015, 08:04:17 AM »
Thanks!

Well I've been second guessing leaving the head bare for asthetic reasons only. I agree, I hate the thought of stuff chipping. I just think it'll look odd going from silver block -> wrinkle black jugs -> bare head -> powder-coated hyper black valve cover.

eh? Maybe it'll look good? I'm over analyzing as usual, ha.

Whatever works for you is cool. Another thing you might think about is clean up. In the "unlikely" occurrence that you have a valve cover leak, cleaning a coated surface is much easier than bare metal.
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