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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #175 on: February 05, 2016, 11:13:31 PM »
Damn man, you should have done the test fitting before you painted the tank. The best option for this would be to cut and weld the petcock bung in a non-interfering place on the bottom of the tank. You'll get it sorted though.
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« Reply #176 on: February 06, 2016, 02:36:23 AM »
Cal, I advised against this too him once in a text message a couple months back. haha
Thats the problem with kids today, despite how many old farts tell them "No", they never listen  ;D

Gennaro - I can't tell from the pictures, but it seem the rear of your tank is sitting above the retention tab? Or is the rubber tab not in place? Perhaps an easier/better modification is to cut and lower the front mounting sticks for your tank. This would increase the top clamp/tank spacing, give you that forward pitch aesthetic, and maybe help with relocating the petcock to the front half of the tank as it would now be the lowest point. You'd have to probably be close to the interior tunnel for the petcock to clear the valve cover and avoid the coils. Or is there a different model of petcock that might work if you swap the bung?
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #177 on: February 06, 2016, 04:52:41 AM »
Some outstanding work is being done on this bike.  It looks great.
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« Reply #178 on: February 06, 2016, 06:19:38 AM »
Got someone lined up for you triple tree fabrication? If not I'd love to work with you on something custom.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #179 on: February 06, 2016, 08:55:10 AM »
Damn man, you should have done the test fitting before you painted the tank. The best option for this would be to cut and weld the petcock bung in a non-interfering place on the bottom of the tank. You'll get it sorted though.

One of the reasons why I am relocating the stock petcock and swapping to a Pingle -- since I am running a 750F tank on a 550 frame with a 650 engine and aftermarket carbs.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #180 on: February 06, 2016, 09:26:33 AM »
Wouldn't most of your problems be solved running 17s instead of 18s, and longer rear shocks? Also using the stock carbs for your stock motor would solve the clearance issue.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #181 on: February 06, 2016, 05:50:23 PM »
Wouldn't most of your problems be solved running 17s instead of 18s, and longer rear shocks? Also using the stock carbs for your stock motor would solve the clearance issue.

17s present a different set of issues.  Stock carburetors are not really a viable option for GV now that he's shelled out for the CRs. 
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #182 on: February 06, 2016, 11:43:25 PM »
Also need to figure out a petcock solution as it also interferes with my CR's.

When I ungraded to CR26 carbs I quickly discovered there was interference with the stock fuel petcock.



I couldn’t find a petcock that would clear the carbs so the interim solution was to machine a straight stainless steel fuel nipple and use an inline fuel tap from Motion Pro. This setup doesn't have a fuel reserve so I've had to learn my distance to empty range and adjust accordingly.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #183 on: February 07, 2016, 07:04:28 AM »
I was thinking it could be re-routed without fab. There you go, Jim!!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #184 on: February 08, 2016, 04:01:04 AM »
Cal, I advised against this too him once in a text message a couple months back. haha

By the looks of the bike and the quality going into it, I'm confident he'll research a way to make it work properly with the rest of the bike/geometry.

Looking good homie, keep the updates coming.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #185 on: February 08, 2016, 04:02:45 AM »
Cal, I advised against this too him once in a text message a couple months back. haha
Thats the problem with kids today, despite how many old farts tell them "No", they never listen  ;D

Gennaro - I can't tell from the pictures, but it seem the rear of your tank is sitting above the retention tab? Or is the rubber tab not in place? Perhaps an easier/better modification is to cut and lower the front mounting sticks for your tank. This would increase the top clamp/tank spacing, give you that forward pitch aesthetic, and maybe help with relocating the petcock to the front half of the tank as it would now be the lowest point. You'd have to probably be close to the interior tunnel for the petcock to clear the valve cover and avoid the coils. Or is there a different model of petcock that might work if you swap the bung?

The tank may have not been in the rubber place, I'd have to double check honestly. I've searched petcocks back when this was a primary concern and came up empty handed. I will figure something out without cutting the tank back up.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #186 on: February 08, 2016, 04:03:00 AM »
Some outstanding work is being done on this bike.  It looks great.

Thank you kind sir! :)
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #187 on: February 08, 2016, 04:03:57 AM »
Got someone lined up for you triple tree fabrication? If not I'd love to work with you on something custom.

So far, I am waiting for Kemp from Ripple Rock Racers to get back to me. What did you have in mind? PM me if you'd prefer, thanks!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #188 on: February 08, 2016, 04:06:33 AM »
Wouldn't most of your problems be solved running 17s instead of 18s, and longer rear shocks? Also using the stock carbs for your stock motor would solve the clearance issue.

17s present a different set of issues.  Stock carburetors are not really a viable option for GV now that he's shelled out for the CRs.

I still prefer 17's also, stock carbs are not a viable option for my setup, period. I wanted carbs no one around here has, something I never had to worry about. I also wanted these carbs for when a different motor goes in, one day far far down the road. Buy it right the first time.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #189 on: February 08, 2016, 04:07:21 AM »
Also need to figure out a petcock solution as it also interferes with my CR's.

When I ungraded to CR26 carbs I quickly discovered there was interference with the stock fuel petcock.



I couldn’t find a petcock that would clear the carbs so the interim solution was to machine a straight stainless steel fuel nipple and use an inline fuel tap from Motion Pro. This setup doesn't have a fuel reserve so I've had to learn my distance to empty range and adjust accordingly.



Yessir. This will most likely be the solution, just stinks no reserve especially considering I ride my motorcycles a TON, they aren't garage queens.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #190 on: February 08, 2016, 04:11:03 AM »
Also using the stock carbs for your stock motor would solve the clearance issue.

Don't you worry buttercup, you won't be able to catch my "stock" motor.

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« Reply #191 on: February 08, 2016, 04:55:38 AM »
Don't you worry buttercup, you won't be able to catch my "stock" motor.
I always love it when teenaged girls fight...  ;D  ::)
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #192 on: February 08, 2016, 05:02:10 AM »
Don't you worry buttercup, you won't be able to catch my "stock" motor.
I always love it when teenaged girls fight...  ;D  ::)

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« Reply #193 on: February 08, 2016, 05:04:14 AM »
Exactly as I pictured you. Got to love selfies!
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« Reply #194 on: February 08, 2016, 05:06:19 AM »
Exactly as I pictured you. Got to love selfies!

Thanks not a selfie, sir!  8)

This is:

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« Reply #195 on: February 08, 2016, 09:08:13 AM »
"Buy it right the first time."  GV1390

This must be exactly what's going on then. Interesting that you would be buying parts for a nonexistent motor than the one that you have. Paint the wall before you paint the trim bud.

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« Reply #196 on: February 08, 2016, 09:10:54 AM »
Exactly as I pictured you. Got to love selfies!

Thanks not a selfie, sir!  8)

This is:


Perhaps of your father. I'm quite certain you don't have enough hair on your face (let alone other areas) to support a beard  8)
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #197 on: February 08, 2016, 09:12:08 AM »
"Buy it right the first time."  GV1390

This must be exactly what's going on then. Interesting that you would be buying parts for a nonexistent motor than the one that you have. Paint the wall before you paint the trim bud.

Believe nothing of what you hear and half of what you see.

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« Reply #198 on: February 08, 2016, 09:13:09 AM »
and even less of what I read-
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« Reply #199 on: February 08, 2016, 09:13:12 AM »
Exactly as I pictured you. Got to love selfies!

Thanks not a selfie, sir!  8)

This is:


Perhaps of your father. I'm quite certain you don't have enough hair on your face (let alone other areas) to support a beard  8)

I wish that were the case! Italians aren't known to be hairless! :/
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