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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #300 on: August 23, 2016, 04:06:00 AM »
That bikes is sweet, I like the Right side GSXR Brake. Super stoked to get mine from Devin....Got some beautiful forks, calipers, and Galfer Wave rotors from Don (CB750 Cafe Racer). Just waiting on my trees, wheel, etc. Thank thing must handle like a dream now.

Thanks Eric! I've been riding this thing every day, it's a blast.

I look forward to seeing your progress.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #301 on: August 23, 2016, 08:55:46 AM »
GV,

Since you've had a decent amount of riding experience with modern sport bikes, and a CB500/550 with stock suspension/brakes, what are your specific impressions on this restomod's handling, dampening, turn it, stability, braking (feel, stability, stopping distance), etc.?
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #302 on: August 23, 2016, 11:16:40 AM »
GV,

Since you've had a decent amount of riding experience with modern sport bikes, and a CB500/550 with stock suspension/brakes, what are your specific impressions on this restomod's handling, dampening, turn it, stability, braking (feel, stability, stopping distance), etc.?

Don,

Obviously it cannot really compare too much to my current "sport bike" which is the MV Agusta but, it surely does well for it's class. My old café CB550 had a dual front disc CB750 front end as well as CB750 disc rear and this surpasses it's handling capabilities thus far. That bike handled superb but, the turn in was a bit heavy. In my opinion, that may be due to a few different variables, primarily (in my eyes) due to weight and also suspension geometry. The handling on my current CB appears to be very nimble. With that being said, the turn in does feel good but I will be adding a damper down the road so corner/exit speed can be controlled better in a smooth fashion. As far as stability is concerned, it feels pretty darn stable and planted, especially for those awesome trail numbers. :)  Stopping distance I have not pushed it as I have a tiny reservoir tube and rather not test it fully until in safer environment; the track. It stops great though, don't get me wrong! It is just interesting going from a 140hp Italian monster to an old Japanese girl.

Overall, I am very pleased with the handling.

:)
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #303 on: August 23, 2016, 01:14:08 PM »
That is good to know Genarro. I'm super stoked for mine. Going to be so awesome. I put bronze swingarm bushings in the rear of the CB750 and have a brand new set of Hagons to go on the rear so along with the full setup with the dual disks up front, should handle a lot different. Was good to hear your thoughts on yours though buddy! Keep it up, love that bike
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #304 on: August 23, 2016, 04:21:12 PM »
140hp is decent for a 'starter bike', I prefer my German girl with 200hp  ;D  jk your bike is sweet.

The CB looks awesome, congrats on getting it all done!
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #305 on: August 23, 2016, 04:33:51 PM »
GV,

Since you've had a decent amount of riding experience with modern sport bikes, and a CB500/550 with stock suspension/brakes, what are your specific impressions on this restomod's handling, dampening, turn it, stability, braking (feel, stability, stopping distance), etc.?

Don,

Obviously it cannot really compare too much to my current "sport bike" which is the MV Agusta but, it surely does well for it's class. My old café CB550 had a dual front disc CB750 front end as well as CB750 disc rear and this surpasses it's handling capabilities thus far. That bike handled superb but, the turn in was a bit heavy. In my opinion, that may be due to a few different variables, primarily (in my eyes) due to weight and also suspension geometry. The handling on my current CB appears to be very nimble. With that being said, the turn in does feel good but I will be adding a damper down the road so corner/exit speed can be controlled better in a smooth fashion. As far as stability is concerned, it feels pretty darn stable and planted, especially for those awesome trail numbers. :)  Stopping distance I have not pushed it as I have a tiny reservoir tube and rather not test it fully until in safer environment; the track. It stops great though, don't get me wrong! It is just interesting going from a 140hp Italian monster to an old Japanese girl.

Overall, I am very pleased with the handling.

:)

Many thanks for the evaluation, GV.  It's good to get some real world feedback on these modern front conversions versus our assumptions. 

IF you get a chance down the road, it would be interesting to know the weight of your bike vs. the stock CB550 (approx. 425 lbs wet).  Also, when you track it, you'll have to let us know if the single front brake rotor is sufficient.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #306 on: August 24, 2016, 03:12:57 AM »
140hp is decent for a 'starter bike', I prefer my German girl with 200hp  ;D  jk your bike is sweet.

The CB looks awesome, congrats on getting it all done!

 ::)

Only one way to properly test them....let's line em' up sweetie! <3

Thanks homie! Much appreciated. I'll be out by you tomorrow, let me know if you're back in town.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #307 on: August 24, 2016, 03:13:26 AM »
GV,

Since you've had a decent amount of riding experience with modern sport bikes, and a CB500/550 with stock suspension/brakes, what are your specific impressions on this restomod's handling, dampening, turn it, stability, braking (feel, stability, stopping distance), etc.?

Don,

Obviously it cannot really compare too much to my current "sport bike" which is the MV Agusta but, it surely does well for it's class. My old café CB550 had a dual front disc CB750 front end as well as CB750 disc rear and this surpasses it's handling capabilities thus far. That bike handled superb but, the turn in was a bit heavy. In my opinion, that may be due to a few different variables, primarily (in my eyes) due to weight and also suspension geometry. The handling on my current CB appears to be very nimble. With that being said, the turn in does feel good but I will be adding a damper down the road so corner/exit speed can be controlled better in a smooth fashion. As far as stability is concerned, it feels pretty darn stable and planted, especially for those awesome trail numbers. :)  Stopping distance I have not pushed it as I have a tiny reservoir tube and rather not test it fully until in safer environment; the track. It stops great though, don't get me wrong! It is just interesting going from a 140hp Italian monster to an old Japanese girl.

Overall, I am very pleased with the handling.

:)

Many thanks for the evaluation, GV.  It's good to get some real world feedback on these modern front conversions versus our assumptions. 

IF you get a chance down the road, it would be interesting to know the weight of your bike vs. the stock CB550 (approx. 425 lbs wet).  Also, when you track it, you'll have to let us know if the single front brake rotor is sufficient.

The first day I had her out I weighed her.

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #308 on: August 24, 2016, 06:35:18 AM »
140hp is decent for a 'starter bike', I prefer my German girl with 200hp  ;D  jk your bike is sweet.
Only one way to properly test them....let's line em' up sweetie! <3
It ain't a race unless you're competitive, GV. Best to just keep your pride saddled before his German Girl does a Polka on your butt  ;D
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« Reply #309 on: August 24, 2016, 06:43:50 AM »
140hp is decent for a 'starter bike', I prefer my German girl with 200hp  ;D  jk your bike is sweet.
Only one way to properly test them....let's line em' up sweetie! <3
It ain't a race unless you're competitive, GV. Best to just keep your pride saddled before his German Girl does a Polka on your butt  ;D

Haha, just ball-busting here! Although this 200hp German gal couldn't keep up.....




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« Reply #310 on: August 24, 2016, 06:47:17 AM »
Haha, just ball-busting here! Although this 200hp German gal couldn't keep up.....

Like most technical issues, the problem with that German Girl was the American Dolt behind the bars. I assure you, that bike would "toast" your Italian wench in the proper hands. And I love Italian bikes! But let's be honest, rider skill is just about everything on a track.
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« Reply #311 on: August 24, 2016, 06:50:25 AM »
Oh I know. 60hp is no joke. BMW would murder me for sure. That was expert class, guy could ride...we exchanged places a couple times.

FYI he may have been Canadian as it was in Canada....which would explain a lot.

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« Reply #312 on: August 24, 2016, 06:53:05 AM »
Oh I know. 60hp is no joke. BMW would murder me for sure. That was expert class, guy could ride...we exchanged places a couple times.

FYI he may have been Canadian as it was in Canada....which would explain a lot.

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(Picture taken just before he passed you for the 3rd time in that session no doubt)  ;D ;) Is that what you call "swapping places"? You in front until he passed you? Glass mostly full kind of logic????  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #313 on: August 24, 2016, 06:56:03 AM »
Oh I know. 60hp is no joke. BMW would murder me for sure. That was expert class, guy could ride...we exchanged places a couple times.

FYI he may have been Canadian as it was in Canada....which would explain a lot.

:)
(Picture taken just before he passed you for the 3rd time in that session no doubt)  ;D ;) Is that what you call "swapping places"? You in front until he passed you? Glass mostly full kind of logic????  ;D ;D ;D ;D

 ::)

I guess GoPro footage would help support my statement? Then again, I'm sure you'd just say its been altered lol.

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« Reply #314 on: August 24, 2016, 06:57:20 AM »
No, I'd believe you JW.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #315 on: August 24, 2016, 07:00:06 AM »
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« Reply #316 on: August 24, 2016, 09:40:16 AM »
You might be able to out brake the S1000RR on the MV but there's no way overall you will out accelerate the S1000RR out of any corner or straight.

I had fun trading spots in my GSXR750 and my buddy's CBR1000RR at the track.  I out-cornered him and he would overtake me as soon as we were on a straight.
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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #317 on: August 24, 2016, 09:40:51 AM »
No, I'd believe you JW.

I bet he [JW] misses you, Cal!   ;)  I heard he was spotted doing 95 mph in 2nd gear on his CB350 going up Pikes Peak!
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« Reply #318 on: August 24, 2016, 10:04:35 AM »
I bet he [JW] misses you, Cal!   ;)  I heard he was spotted doing 95 mph in 2nd gear on his CB350 going up Pikes Peak!
May be true. Given the amount of unsolicited and unwelcome text messages I still get. Tragedy is, they still are littered with lies and self-conflicting truths.  ::) ::) ::)
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« Reply #319 on: August 24, 2016, 10:05:56 AM »
JW.

Only the finest threads!  ;D


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« Reply #320 on: August 26, 2016, 10:37:40 AM »
JW.

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« Reply #321 on: August 26, 2016, 03:36:57 PM »
No, I'd believe you JW.

I bet he [JW] misses you, Cal!   ;)  I heard he was spotted doing 95 mph in 2nd gear on his CB350 going up Pikes Peak!

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« Reply #322 on: September 05, 2016, 03:42:00 AM »
The 550 turned out great G! Glad it's up and running for you.
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« Reply #323 on: September 05, 2016, 04:16:07 PM »
The 550 turned out great G! Glad it's up and running for you.

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2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: GV1390's Trattoria "Racer" round 2!
« Reply #324 on: September 06, 2016, 05:29:04 AM »
The 550 turned out great G! Glad it's up and running for you.

Thanks stranger!
93' GSX-R1100, 78' CB550, 71' CL350, 71’ CB500 & 02' ZRX1200R.