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Offline vonvendetta

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cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« on: January 25, 2015, 05:16:06 PM »
I have a rick's Motorsport Reg/Rec combo, shorai battery and new wiring.

I drove it two days ago for about 45 minutes. Bike died and battery wasn't doing well. Pushed bike about 4 miles home which sucked! Charged and I am about full again.   :'( :'(

I have been reading posts for about 3 hours now and am just drawing a blank. It's like right before I started tackling the wiring, it seemed very overwhelming until I started. I just need some help on what to check next. Why is there not an info-graphic for THIS!!

I checked that there is continuity between all the wires and connection.
1.) Can I just connect the voltmeter to the red wire coming out of the reg/rec to test voltage? This wire I currently have running to the starter solenoid.
1.5.) If there is no voltage then test alternator?
2.) Is there a way to test that the alternator is spitting out what it should? (the white wire?)

I am just brain dead and need guidance.  :o :-\

Video to show that when giving gas the volts drop. From what I understand, they should be going up. While running it sits at 12.6 and while off it is at 13.4
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2015, 10:13:48 PM »
Sounds like some short open pipes, or a boat header.  I can't help with the wiring but I have some beer, come on over.
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 12:41:40 AM »
Start eliminating  non essential circuits that could have failed or shoredt. Keep the ones you need to run hooked up. Disconect lights , horn, blinkers etc.  with your meter hooked up and bike running and see if the readings show any one circuit causing the drawdown.
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 06:19:15 AM »
That is a huge help on where to get started. I'll run the red directly and make sure I ran the black correctly and test tonight.
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 12:55:51 PM »
Here follow this diagnosis, it's an easy to follow process of elimination.

http://www.oregonmotorcycleparts.com/FAQ.html
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 01:16:35 PM »
I would be extremely worried about running out of beer..!!!  what else did you say.....?  8)
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 02:22:30 PM »
I forgot?!?
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 02:28:48 PM »
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2015, 06:59:42 PM »
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 27, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
I would be extremely worried about running out of beer..!!! 


That is the first issue that needs to be rectified. (Pun intended).
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2015, 08:08:20 PM »
Quote from: Stev-o on January 27, 2015, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: Retro Rocket on January 27, 2015, 01:16:35 PM
I would be extremely worried about running out of beer..!!! 


That is the first issue that needs to be rectified. (Pun intended).

nice... :P
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2015, 07:28:34 PM »
I connected the red wire directly to battery just now and am getting an increase instead of decrease. Running some tests this weekend to make sure I'm in the correct ranges.
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 08:04:37 PM »
But, most importantly, did you ever get more beer?

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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 08:10:07 PM »
Quote from: 750cafe on January 28, 2015, 08:04:37 PM
But, most importantly, did you ever get more beer?



Must have, voltage is on the rise!
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2015, 08:36:42 PM »
Electrolytes in beer?   ???

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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2015, 01:49:46 PM »
So here I am again....

Willing to give two gallons of beer to whom ever fixes this?

So I've run the red directly to battery, black to a hot running from her switch and I still don't get a charge.
It drops steady and rpms don't change it.

If I check the red from reg/rec I'm getting an odd .60 volts, video attached. Is there a way to check of the stator puts out 14.5v? I'm thinking that maybe my combo rec/reg isn't working as should.

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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2015, 02:25:48 PM »
Did this test and the negative board isn't responding:) :'((((
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2015, 05:44:29 PM »
Quote from: vonvendetta on January 31, 2015, 01:49:46 PM
So here I am again....

Willing to give two gallons of beer to whom ever fixes this?



If I check the red from reg/rec I'm getting an odd .60 volts, video attached.
Your meter is not  connected correctly....
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2015, 01:35:21 PM »

Does this look correct? I think I might have fixed it now.
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2015, 06:33:00 PM »
So after all that crap I went for a test drive and the battery is charged more than when I started the ride. I have wasted countless hours due to a horrible wiring harness that I bought from sparkmoto. I am not one for vendor shaming but this harness had the worst quality wiring (very few strands that you were able to just pull out, my cheap $20 order from ebay had better wiring), 3.9mm bullet connectors vs 3.5mm standard Honda size, nothing was soldered and horribly crimped; for the price I should have received a better product. I was hoping that by paying a company like that I would 1. support a small business and 2. get it done correctly. If anyone is considering them, please use caution. Nothing is worse than trying pinpoint which leads are bad on a brand new harness which there were SIX!

Thank you all for your help and patience!
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Re: cb500 not charging and I ran out of beer.
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2015, 01:30:32 PM »
Quote from: scottly on January 31, 2015, 05:44:29 PM
Quote from: vonvendetta on January 31, 2015, 01:49:46 PM
So here I am again....

Willing to give two gallons of beer to whom ever fixes this?



If I check the red from reg/rec I'm getting an odd .60 volts, video attached.
Your meter is not  connected correctly....

DING! DING! DING! Looks like you get some beer delivered to you!  ;D
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