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Offline Geeto67

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How do I break into my own bike?
« on: October 09, 2006, 05:09:12 AM »

I have this 1975 Cb750F I picked up as a parts bike. Problem is that I need parts from underneath the seat area. I tried the ignition key on the seat lock and they do not match. So How can I break into this bike without drilling out the lock? Most of the bike is pretty stripped and I can probably remove the oil tank and wiring if I need to.
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Offline Jay B

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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #1 on: October 09, 2006, 05:12:24 AM »
I didn't have the proper key to my 350f seat when I got it. I was able to reach up and unbolt the latch prong (for lack of a better word) from the bottom of the seat. Don't know if yours is the same, but look and see if that will work.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #2 on: October 09, 2006, 05:25:20 AM »
The F's Seat Hinge bolts from the top so the seat must be open to unbolt it. I was thinking I might be able to reach the hinge pin but so far I can't seem to get to the cotter pin.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2006, 05:33:59 AM »
I was refering to the peice that fits into the lock itself, not the hinge. I think most of them are bolted to the seat bottm on studs facing down. I was able to reach up with a 10mm socket and extension and unscrew the nuts holding it on. HTH
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2006, 05:39:56 AM »
Quote from: Jay B on October 09, 2006, 05:33:59 AM
I was refering to the peice that fits into the lock itself, not the hinge. I think most of them are bolted to the seat bottm on studs facing down. I was able to reach up with a 10mm socket and extension and unscrew the nuts holding it on. HTH

I have to check but the lock housing might be welded to the frame. On my 78F it is but on my 75 K it isn't so  I am not sure about the 75 F.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #5 on: October 09, 2006, 06:11:46 AM »
i had the same problem.  I removed the two 10mm nuts from teh bottom of the seat just above the lock housing.  kinda tight fit for a socket but you can get them.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #6 on: October 09, 2006, 06:48:24 AM »
If you don't have the correct key fr it, what's the point of saving the lock cylinder?  Drill it!
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #7 on: October 09, 2006, 06:54:25 AM »
Have a Macguyver moment and pick the lock!
You'll need a paperclip and a real small allen wrench and maybe a peice of chewing gum.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #8 on: October 09, 2006, 07:01:52 AM »
I think its easier to remove the hinge pins first then you can twist, push pull the seat around until the lock plunger moves back and seat pops off. Take out the two countersunk screws and you can dismantle lock to use whatever key you have
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #9 on: October 09, 2006, 07:07:23 AM »
Make a "Bump Key".   ;D
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2006, 07:47:44 AM »
If it's a parts bike, why not drill it?  You've got a parts bike with a lock you won't be able to salvage without a working key.  New or used, seat locks aren't expensive items.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2006, 08:21:33 AM »
Scarey how easy it was to 'make'a key. Like the man said, general public doesnt realise how unsafe they are.
Now I;m never going to sleep at night.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2006, 08:29:56 AM »
Quote from: crazypj on October 09, 2006, 08:21:33 AM
Scarey how easy it was to 'make'a key. Like the man said, general public doesnt realise how unsafe they are.
Now I;m never going to sleep at night.
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locks keep honest people out.  crooks will never be detered.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2006, 07:42:23 PM »
The bike itself has been picked over once, but I have a title for the frame and I want to use the bare frame for a cafe racer project (I have a wrecked 76 F donating it's engine and rear swingarm/rim/tire). I was worried about drilling it because if i drill it out too much the lock set I want to use in the bike may not fit. I tried to get the hinge pin out today and couldn't get it all the way out. I am going to try to remove the 10mm nuts from the pin and see if that works - If not out comes the drill bits. Thanks for the replies.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2006, 08:06:05 PM »
I could always just pipet in a little Hydrochloric Acid or liquid Nitrogen to melt or shatter the lock,

I love playing with chemicals

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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2006, 08:24:16 PM »
Quote from: Roastem on October 09, 2006, 06:11:46 AM
i had the same problem.  I removed the two 10mm nuts from teh bottom of the seat just above the lock housing.  kinda tight fit for a socket but you can get them.

 I did the same on my 400F when I forgot the keys at my shop.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2006, 10:29:06 PM »
This guy has a ton of OEM keys from a variety of vintage Hondas, on eBay. . . match the key to your lock - number code is right on the front - just like the ignition. that wayz u would have a good lock with a couple of keys?

]http://motors.search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZfklipple

he has pictures of the types of keys as well as all the key codes listed (the numbers off the lock) to match with. . .  there is another seller on eBay with a bunch of OEM keys, too. .  .    ::)


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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2006, 11:27:30 PM »
Back in 84 when I bought my Kawi 1000,I took the ignition tumbler to a locksmith and he built me a key.I hadn't actually paid $ for the bike yet because I told the guy I wanted to hear it run. He had misplaced the key and his copy of the title. I was a truck driver at a world- wide moving & storage co.(Four Winds) in California and this guy selling me the bike had just brought it cross country from Boston in one of our moving vans. Anyhow,when we were unloading that truck,I fell in love with the bike and had to really bug the #$%* out of that guy to sell it to me. After getting the key made, I had to dick around a bit to get it running (charge battery,add gas etc......the basic #$%*).I got it going and it ran titties but still had issues like bald rear tire,shot chain & sprockets,Misplaced title. It took me awhile but I took my new key and went to open the seat.Jackpot!!!!! There in the rear storage area was the title from Mass.(not the reg......the title!!!!),another key,tools etc. Man.....I was jazzed!!!! I miss that bike!!!!!
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2006, 11:43:12 AM »
Shame on you - getting dewie eyed about an old Kwaker on this board  ;D
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2006, 03:29:24 PM »
Must...go...make...bump key.
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Re: How do I break into my own bike?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2006, 07:42:49 PM »
Dewie eyed my ass!!!!!! Sometimes....I just sit and bawl like a little girl over that losing that machine!!!! ;D
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