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Re: Dual Discs - lower pipe
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2015, 04:15:59 PM »
Here you go Wobbly, these are the Honda part numbers for the right hand brake parts, oil cooler and steering damper, I was out with my numbers, they all end in 300-970

Oil cooler  56100-300-970
Steering damper 53700-300-970
Right caliper assembly 45200-300-970
Joint right 45204-300-970
Pipe right front 45228-300-970
Right side clip brake hose 45245-300-970
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
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Re: Dual Discs - lower pipe
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2015, 04:22:31 PM »
None (!) of the Honda sales flyers (U.S. nor Germany) list such options, and I have never seen them. Why would Honda be so secretive about them? They are listed in none of the manuals either (none, I have them all). Like I said, you can do the conversion with all Honda parts, but the bolts, for instance, would come from a Goldwing. That does not make it a factory option. Honda never offered any of these things as a factory option for any of the CB 750 K0-K8, F1-F3 models. You could not order any of these bikes from Honda with an added second front brake (the F2-F3 came with double front standard), oil cooler, or steering damper. I have no clue what was offered for the CR750, nor is that the bike in question.   We agree to disagree--no need to be sorry.

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Re: Dual Discs - lower pipe
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2015, 04:43:20 PM »
None (!) of the Honda sales flyers (U.S. nor Germany) list such options, and I have never seen them. Why would Honda be so secretive about them? They are listed in none of the manuals either (none, I have them all). Like I said, you can do the conversion with all Honda parts, but the bolts, for instance, would come from a Goldwing. That does not make it a factory option. Honda never offered any of these things as a factory option for any of the CB 750 K0-K8, F1-F3 models. You could not order any of these bikes from Honda with an added second front brake (the F2-F3 came with double front standard), oil cooler, or steering damper. I have no clue what was offered for the CR750, nor is that the bike in question.   We agree to disagree--no need to be sorry.

The CR is simply a hotted up CB750, as i'm sure you are well aware, These parts have Honda part numbers. I have no idea why none of these parts were not in the manuals but that doesn't surprise me one little bit, you could still buy them though. I have dealt with the Japanese for years buying music instruments, mainly guitars and I can say with absolute certainty that half the guitars I have you won't find in any catalog even though they are branded, this isn't just one manufacturer either, and its quite common. I find the Japanese to be quite quirky and they definitely do things differently to how most of us would expect, no offense intended, I have a couple of very good Japanese friends, their ways and traditions are nothing like ours... I wouldn't say they were being secretive, all the CB's had twin disc capable forks, so it makes sense they would have the parts, just these parts were associated with their race bike so it was a separate entity, so separate manuals or parts lists.. Anyone that wanted them could buy them, I suspect most people just didn't know or bother to ask...
750 K2 1000cc
750 F1 970cc
750 Bitsa 900cc
If You can't fix it with a hammer, You've got an electrical problem.

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Re: Dual Discs - lower pipe
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2015, 05:04:55 PM »
The "300" is the code of the early CB 750 Four. Unusual is that they all end in "970" which must be the reference to the CR750. How helpful it would be if such parts would still be available.
I think that we simply misunderstand each other: by factory option, I am referring to options that the various models would come with from the factory. None of these parts qualify. You could not order any of the street bikes with these options from the factory directly. But if you knew the part numbers, surely the shop would order them and do the conversion for you, just as they would put another handle bar on your new bike if you so desired. But even back then, who really knew these numbers? I don't think most guys in the shop knew. I guess, that's why people turned to alternatives, like Lockhard (immensely popular back then). I don't know when these parts became unavailable, but I know that they would sell like hot cakes today--and they probably would have back then since the single disc is atrocious.
Anyhow, even without these parts being available today, you still can do the conversion with genuine Honda parts, including Honda steel lines. But it always is a conversion, a change of the original factory bike and not a factory option. It's not original although its Honda and contemporary. And that was my point. It's original only for the CR.
Anyway, thanks for these numbers. Just like the Japanese specs K7 with its rear disc brake, it's these little details that make this forum so interesting.