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Offline Grinnin

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Stock wiring harness T junctions
« on: February 20, 2015, 06:16:10 AM »
I replaced some burnt ground wires when I got my '75 750 and it's been reliable since then.  Now with fresh paint on the frame I'm checking the whole harness on a bench and it's in very good condition.

I am curious about the T junctions.  There are 8 or 10 in the harness in addition to the multi-bullet connectors.  I would expect Honda to use crimp connectors for all T junctions.  What I find are very clean, workmanlike soldered junctions wrapped in thin and narrow gray electrical tape.  Is this stock?  While the soldering is very nice, the tape is wrapped so generously that it makes a pretty big lump.

Can anyone tell me what type of connection Honda used to make T junctions in the wiring harness?

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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2015, 06:35:45 AM »
Doesn't sound stock to me.  Here's a link that may be helpful:
http://www.maultechatv.com/techguides/Service%20Manuals/HONDA/Wire%20Terminal%20Supplies.pdf
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2015, 06:38:50 AM »
I'm pretty sure my stock harness has some soldered splices.
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2015, 08:22:07 AM »
That is stock.  On most harnesses I've disassembled, the tape wrapping wasn't overly thick.  Probably depends on which assembly line worker was doing the job.

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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2015, 08:31:13 AM »
Yes, it is stock, same stuff in the two harnesses I dealt with.
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2015, 08:33:59 AM »
i've seen it too.
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2015, 10:23:09 AM »
Sounds like it's almost unanimous.

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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2015, 07:27:13 PM »
thank you for that harness repair document that will be very useful... They always want you to replace the whole harness should something be buggered up. This allows you to fix the damage rather than replace! 
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2015, 03:04:40 PM »
Are you guys talking soldered joints under the wrap?
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2015, 03:23:04 PM »
Are you guys talking soldered joints under the wrap?

That was my understanding.
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2015, 05:43:06 AM »
OK then I agree too.  I thought the reference was to the multi-wire connectors.
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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2015, 04:27:47 PM »
Agreed, if we're discussing the soldered splices then they are that way from the factory. If we're talking about the multi-plug 3.5mm bullet connectors then you can get what you need at http://www.vintageconnections.com/

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Re: Stock wiring harness T junctions
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2015, 04:34:31 PM »
T junctions.  There are 8 or 10 in the harness in addition to the multi-bullet connectors.
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