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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2015, 10:23:51 AM »
hard to tell from the picture, but do you think a quality porting job might not be able to smooth it out?
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2015, 10:43:58 AM »
I might try grinding to depth of pits, but exhaust sealing ring face will need attention.
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2015, 10:44:03 AM »
Picked up tank, petrol flap and side covers today ;D

Images dont fully show how good the colour is, as it really sparkles.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2015, 11:03:37 AM »
Beautiful.  What color is that called?  It doesn't look like one of the standard Honda reds from the photo.
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2015, 11:09:51 AM »
Beautiful.  What color is that called?  It doesn't look like one of the standard Honda reds from the photo.

Well, it definitely does not look a standard US color or a standard Euro color either.  That said, it really pops! Nice choice.
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2015, 11:16:04 AM »
Beautiful.  What color is that called?  It doesn't look like one of the standard Honda reds from the photo.

Its a Renault car colour, saw it on a car and thought it would look good on a bike.

The original was a bit drab.
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Its used on latest Renault Clio in Europe and is a 3 stage pearl finish.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2015, 11:23:29 AM »
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2015, 11:34:05 AM »
The bike did not come with side panels and I have bought replica ones.

Still not sure whether it would have had badges like this

Shown on DSS https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/87123405000P_large.jpg



or this https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/graphics/parts/87127392000P_large.jpg



Have seen images with seperate K decal and gold line

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2015, 11:35:23 AM »
The top badge is for a 77 CB750K7
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2015, 12:37:27 PM »
Yup, the lower one is just for the 'F's
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2015, 12:42:26 PM »
Just as it should be done excellent

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2015, 02:00:05 PM »
It is my understanding that the 1978 CB750K8 emblem is the one pictured on the bike (above) and that the capital "F" does not extend underneath the CB750 our text - only above - with the line and K further underneath.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2015, 12:40:37 PM »
Finished the part assembly of engine and ready to fit.

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Frame prepped with pipe insulation and plastic waste pipe split and fitted to right bottom rail to protect

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Engine went in OK with help of friend on other end of lifting bar, but seem to have lost images ???
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2015, 12:49:36 PM »
I bought a K7 brake master cylinder and new genuine stop switch, but no provision for fitting  :-[

Decided to go with replica DSS unit and banjo bolt switch from China, with made up wiring loom.

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Seems to work OK
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2015, 01:05:20 PM »
I would probably smooth it out a little by hand or a sanding roll and run it.  Only concern is where the damage intrudes into the boss for the copper gasket but it looks to me like it might be ok?  Doubt anyone is gonna notice any performance difference.   High temp epoxy/jb weld is an option too...  If it ends up in your muffler?...none the wiser
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2015, 01:07:54 PM »
The 78 badge is more Roman Numeral-esque and is unique to the 78 AFAIK:





And I have found them here (little pricey though):

http://www.marblesmotors.com/partsforsalehondabadges.htm
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2015, 05:56:43 AM »
The 78 badge is more Roman Numeral-esque and is unique to the 78 AFAIK:





And I have found them here (little pricey though):

http://www.marblesmotors.com/partsforsalehondabadges.htm

Thanks for that, sounds like they will be ultra rare/expensive, so will put on hold for moment :(
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2015, 06:09:19 AM »
Made quite a bit of progress, but seem to have problem importing images from my camera.

Engine fitted up apart from carbs, as just realised the K7/8 had differentent rubber mounts which are on back order :(

Clutch assembly slightly caught me out as the rear ally plate with the spring pillars had not engaged in outer splines.

So if you find spring bolts seem too short to engage with pillars, may be the problem.

I stripped oil pump and found rotor lobe damage so swapped with a good used one.

Put in engine oil, initial  3 ltrs of running in oil, which should help the rings bed in.

Tried spinning up engine  with plugs out, but no drop in oil level and oil light still on.

Dont like starting without pressure present, but having  prlmed pump, may have to, athough may try pressuring oil tank via beather pipe,  which worked on last bike.
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2015, 02:04:06 PM »
Martin,
Have you thought about just putting an oil pressure gauge on and confirming oil pressure before you try starting it?

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2015, 02:46:07 PM »
Martin,
Have you thought about just putting an oil pressure gauge on and confirming oil pressure before you try starting it?

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I have had a look  at a few pressure gauges and considering for my cafe racer. how did you adapt the oil gallery plug?

To fully prime, I used a car tubeless tyre valve with end cut off and fitted into end of tube same size as breather tube on oil tank  clamped with Jubilee clip.

After pressurising and a few spins of engine the oil light went out.

Removed pressure and oil light goes out each time engine spun ;D
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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2015, 04:08:07 PM »
I have had a look  at a few pressure gauges and considering for my cafe racer. how did you adapt the oil gallery plug?

To fully prime, I used a car tubeless tyre valve with end cut off and fitted into end of tube same size as breather tube on oil tank  clamped with Jubilee clip.

After pressurising and a few spins of engine the oil light went out.

Removed pressure and oil light goes out each time engine spun ;D

Glad to hear it's going! :)
As for how I did it, I took the easy way:  I asked Bill Benton one time what kind of oil pressure gauge he uses because I wanted to get one for Stella.  The next time I went to see him, he had purchased one for me and all I had to do was remove the oil galley plug and screw this one in.




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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #46 on: April 07, 2015, 01:49:57 PM »
I fitted a Motad 4 into 1 as I am short of one original no1 HM405 exhaust.

Carb insulators arrived today from DSS, so fitted carbs and thought I would see if the engine runs,

After a few turns it fired up and sounds good  ;D


Have not fitted air cleaner or adjusted carbs but nice to have running.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2015, 03:43:01 AM »
Decided against SS Motad system as mountings wrong, so will use on F1 project.

Decided to fit a used chrome Marshall system I bought and looks and fits much nicer, with more access to oil filter.

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The stand stop.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #48 on: April 19, 2015, 03:50:00 AM »
Not too much to do now, but cant easily get the correct length throttle cables in UK and have it booked in for test on Friday, to enable me to register here.

Have used shortest route, with cables I have but may be a problem with tanks fitted.

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Re: 1978 CB750 K8 project
« Reply #49 on: April 19, 2015, 04:04:14 AM »
My oil gallery cap was damaged and originals are quite expensive, so tried this ally sump plug (Subaru aftermarket) which has a built in magnet to catch stray metal particals.

Used a dowty washer to seal.

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