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CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« on: March 09, 2015, 12:32:45 am »
Is there a set torque value for the two 6mm bolts (the long one & short one in the center of the head, by the cam chain tunnel)? 

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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 02:30:17 am »
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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 04:01:01 am »
Really easy to strip those threads. I torqued 12Nm last time. I guess 10Nm will be OK.
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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 04:06:53 am »
I usually hit 6mm bolts with 6 or 7 ft-lbs.

8 ft-lbs on a 6mm bolt into aluminum threads makes me queasy...  :o  ;)  8)
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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 08:57:27 am »
I don't even "torque" those, per-se.  For stock screws I just use a screwdriver and put them down hand-tight, which I'm betting I'm getting at least 5 ft lb on.

For allen head repalcements I  use an allen bit on either a screwdriver handle, or my smallest 1/4"socket handle turning the thing with just a thumb and one or two fingers.

You don't need to go crazy on these particular screws, nor on most of the others which were 6mm JIS screws from the factory.

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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2015, 10:42:12 am »
Manual spec says 9 ft lbs.
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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2015, 11:15:34 am »
If the bolts are OEM with a little "8*" in their center, use 100=110 in-lbs. If they don't have the little insignia, use 90-100 in-lbs.
Those are old JIS-spec style bolt markings. ;)
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Re: CB750 cylinder head torque setting question - 6mm bolts
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2015, 11:46:03 am »
I think the manual specify high torque on all 6mm bolts.
I have been very worried everytime I have torqued almost 9 ft lbs (12Nm). Helicoil or other thread insert is needed. I have helicoils in both mentioned threads in the cylinder. One of the bolts were broken during some years. Fixed it at last repair/restore/upgrade whene I could make longer threads and helicoil.

Same with cam tower bolts. I torqued 7.4 ft lbs (10Nm) last time despite helicoils, time-sert and one Big-sert (2:nd repair) when a helicoil stripped up thru the aluminum, cam stud.
I was worried when torquing all the 6mm bolts in crank cases last time, 12Nm (8.8 ft lbs)

Very important to use a correct torque wrench. I might have used a bad wrench earlier and tourqed too much.

Higher temperature might help thread failure too...?
One additional worry.....
I guess that a not perfectly flat head + cylinder will cause a bending cam into the cam towers too.
My last re-tourque of head nuts might have indicated not perfectly flat surfaces when the inner nuts on exhaust side could be torqued more (1/4 turn), the other not. (~21ft lbs) 3:rd time since head mount. 2:nd cam change + thread repair of known bad thread of cam stud.
I do not need to pull engine for this kind of job.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2015, 12:13:43 pm by PeWe »
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