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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2015, 03:10:04 AM »
Yes, great story. You mentioned opinions welcome - stock or slightly custom. You will get a lot of different ideas on that one. Me, I enjoy trying to take these bikes back to OEM as they came off the showroom floor. I like the challenge more than putting on new custom parts. Plus, how can you beat that look of the early 70's. It will cost you though if you go with OEM exhaust...or take the easy route and find some aftermarket to stick on there until you can find and afford OEM. Noted that chain guard is from a K1 bike as the end is longer. Honda changed from the short guard to a longer one on the K1 model to reduce oil from slinging up on the passengers legs. So your Dad must have changed that out at some point. Maybe he did not toss it out as those are costly and hard to find if you decide to take it back to stock.  But keep in mind it is your bike and do with it what you and your son will like for sure. You mentioned Dad ordered a blue/green and orange. The CB750K0 Four was available in one of three colors: Candy Blue Green, Candy Gold, or Candy Ruby Red. The tank, side covers, air box and upper forks were of the basic color (blue/green, gold, or red). The headlight shell was also the basic color. Good luck with this neat project and keep us updated on the progress.

Honda changed the chain guard from 1021880. I own two K0s (103... and 104...) and both have the long versions. The long K0 version is slightly different from the K1 chain guard, barely visible. So this guard should be right for this bike.



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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2015, 03:10:47 AM »
Great project! It looks pretty original, but a load of work to do.



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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2015, 07:23:47 AM »
Definitely remove your bearings and bushings prior to powder coating.

+1.  Then clean it out real good and buy a piece of all thread, 2 large fender washers and nut and put it in the swing arm. This will prevent the PC from going in there, and you'll be able to install the new bushings with no issue.
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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2015, 09:05:00 PM »
Definitely remove your bearings and bushings prior to powder coating.

+1.  Then clean it out real good and buy a piece of all thread, 2 large fender washers and nut and put it in the swing arm. This will prevent the PC from going in there, and you'll be able to install the new bushings with no issue.

So I will need to replace the bushings when I remove them or can they be reused?

thanks so much everyone.

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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2015, 01:21:46 PM »
It's advisable to replace them with new oil lite bronze bushings. Many members source them from a chap in Germany for around $20

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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2015, 04:03:50 PM »
It's advisable to replace them with new oil lite bronze bushings. Many members source them from a chap in Germany for around $20

Cal knows his stuff, I'll make it easy for you, click here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB-250-360-400-500-550-750-Four-swingarm-bronze-bushing-set-bearing-new-/251851928293?vxp=mtr&hash=item3aa38b72e5

The bushings I have don't have the lip on them.  They insert all the way into the swingarm tube.  These look like ones for a later bike.  Are they interchangeable so I can eliminate the end cap that sits under the cup washer?

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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #31 on: April 07, 2015, 12:11:58 AM »
So have steadily been trying to get the pistons un-stuck for a few weeks now.  Lots of sitting with ATF/Acetone in the bores.  Now even resulted to a bit of fire to heat things up and still can't budge them.
 
Any other options I should consider?  I am not sure if disconnecting the connecting rods from the crank and taking the jugs with pistons to a machine shop is the next step.  Not sure if they would be able to help me other than maybe taking a press to the pistons.  I would like to save the connecting rods as I really don't want to mess with the mix and match of new connecting rods/crank/case to get everything balanced and bearing tolerances figured out like I have read about.
 
Can a machine shop do anything for me?  (I called one today, but they are off on Monday's, will have to follow up tomorrow)  Anything else I should consider to get these pistons unstuck?
 
An extra piece of info, I do have another set of pistons/jugs/head I got as a packaged deal as I knew I was going to need new pistons anyway.  Not sure if that helps in figuring out options as this might turn to a destructive process to get this engine rebuilt.

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Re: 1970 CB750 project "Dad's bike"
« Reply #32 on: April 07, 2015, 05:35:25 AM »
It's advisable to replace them with new oil lite bronze bushings. Many members source them from a chap in Germany for around $20

Cal knows his stuff, I'll make it easy for you, click here...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB-250-360-400-500-550-750-Four-swingarm-bronze-bushing-set-bearing-new-/251851928293?vxp=mtr&hash=item3aa38b72e5

The bushings I have don't have the lip on them.  They insert all the way into the swingarm tube.  These look like ones for a later bike.  Are they interchangeable so I can eliminate the end cap that sits under the cup washer?
Yes, you can use these bushings on your swingarm. I used those exact ones on my '72 after removing the "old style" ones without the lip. Then all you need is cup washer.
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