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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #75 on: October 29, 2006, 03:06:00 PM »
Quote from: bwaller on October 29, 2006, 01:41:41 PM
I'm happy for Hayden, Bayliss showed his stuff again, and Rossi is human afterall.

This sums it up nicely.

Do you think this race will reduce Rossi from "moto-god" to just a legend? Regardless, Hayden, Bayliss and Rossi are all class acts. I'm a fan (already was) of all of them.

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« Reply #76 on: October 29, 2006, 05:15:52 PM »
Now the dust has settled we can look forward to next year. Today was an uncharacteristic mistake by Rossi, especially given the stakes at hand. Did we see the beginning of the end of greatness, as Jeff mentioned??

Next year should be interesting.

It is nice to have someone else as the first new champion since KR Jnr.
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2006, 09:49:02 AM »
That was an exiting last race!  What a stunning performance from Bayliss. I was very happy there were no teamorders telling Bayliss to let Capirossi win (Melandri only being one point away from 3rd in championship)
As much as I would have liked to see Rossi win, I think it makes MotoGP that much more interesting when there are more contenders for the title. This year Hayden has been so consistent, and he worked so hard for this title he deserves it 100%.
Next year should be very interesting.
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« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2006, 10:01:34 AM »
How the heck did Ducatis place 1 and 2 in that race?  It seems like that race was fixed for them to place like that.  I mean, the Ducatis were not contenders all season.  I call a FIXED race.

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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2006, 10:13:21 AM »
Quote from: sparty on October 30, 2006, 10:01:34 AM
How the heck did Ducatis place 1 and 2 in that race?  It seems like that race was fixed for them to place like that.  I mean, the Ducatis were not contenders all season.  I call a FIXED race.

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Are you serious? Capirossi won 3 races this year. He would've contended for more had his teammate Gibernau not torpedoed him at a round earlier in the season. The factory Ducs are contenders, definitely on the level of Honda and Yamaha, with Suzuki and Kawsaki bringing up the rear.

Now, if you were talking about the d'Antin Ducatis, that's a different story.

Plus, Bridgestone tires excel at some tracks, and suck at others. This obviously was an "excel" track.

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« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2006, 10:21:08 AM »
I'm with you Jeff on this one. The Ducs have been strong at times, and look at what they have done in Superbikes..
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2006, 10:41:26 AM »
Quote from: Jeff on October 30, 2006, 10:13:21 AM
Quote from: sparty on October 30, 2006, 10:01:34 AM
How the heck did Ducatis place 1 and 2 in that race?  It seems like that race was fixed for them to place like that.  I mean, the Ducatis were not contenders all season.  I call a FIXED race.

Sparty

Are you serious? Capirossi won 3 races this year. He would've contended for more had his teammate Gibernau not torpedoed him at a round earlier in the season. The factory Ducs are contenders, definitely on the level of Honda and Yamaha, with Suzuki and Kawsaki bringing up the rear.

Now, if you were talking about the d'Antin Ducatis, that's a different story.

Plus, Bridgestone tires excel at some tracks, and suck at others. This obviously was an "excel" track.

Jeff

Capirossi did win three races, but in the last race for them to win with such a large margin just seems odd.  They must have had the right tires, the correct suspension setup, and good luck. ;)
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2006, 11:09:14 AM »
Quote from: sparty on October 30, 2006, 10:41:26 AM
Capirossi did win three races, but in the last race for them to win with such a large margin just seems odd.  They must have had the right tires, the correct suspension setup, and good luck. ;)

I think those requirements are necessary for just about anyone to win. Here is my reasoning for the huge margin.

1. Bayliss can ride.
2. Rossi crashed.
3. Nicky didn't have to push as hard. He was riding conservatively in order to get the big picture taken care of. If he needed to push it, he could have. At the beginning of the race, he was gaining on Bayliss.
4. Pedrosa was behind Nicky, slowing everyone up to make sure Nicky had the cushion he needed.
5. It's a "Bridgestone" track. The Ducs are the good bikes with 'stones. The Kwaks and Suzukis suck, compared to the rest of the factories.

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« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2006, 12:08:54 PM »
Jeff,
Well summarised.
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« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2006, 05:23:08 PM »
Yeh, spot on Jeff. And doesn't it just prove what a legend Bayliss is - put him on anything and he will ride the pants of it. Maybe the "typical Aussie".  ;D
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2006, 07:02:44 PM »
Holy cow.  Two weeks ago I sure wouldn't have pegged Bayliss as the winner at Valencia.  Says a LOT for his talent that he can just hop on a GP bike after a year on a Superbike and dominate.  I thought Ducati was going to just run their 800's for testing? 

I was sorry to see Rossi crash, as I would have like to see things unfold on the track.  But like Jeff said, he may indeed be human after all.  He didn't have the bike or setup this weekend, and there were just too many bikes to pass.  He pushed it beyond the limits and wasn't able to catch it this time.

How many days until next season starts??
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« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2006, 07:50:51 PM »
I don't know if I would qualify Bayliss as a legend yet. I think the only current MotoGP or WSBK riders that can have that term applied to them would be Rossi. Well, Biaggi would have that title applied to him if you added "ary pr!ck" to the end of "legend"  :D

BUT, Bayliss is definitely one of my favorites. I was always a bit bummed in his previous MGP results. Maybe he'd be one rung below legend... like this:

1. Moto-God - Ago, Hailwood, Roberts, Lawson, Rainey, Doohan, Rossi and Joey Dunlop too
2. Legend - Schwantz, Spencer, Foggy
3. ??? - Bayliss, Mamola, (and Edwards too if he'd just win ONE frickin MGP race)
4. ???

I believe round 1 of the 2007 starts on or around March 7, if my memory serves me.

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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2006, 11:32:46 PM »
Quote from: sparty on October 30, 2006, 10:01:34 AM
How the heck did Ducatis place 1 and 2 in that race?  It seems like that race was fixed for them to place like that.  I mean, the Ducatis were not contenders all season.  I call a FIXED race.

Sparty

Did you not see the race in Brno then? Capirossi was that far in front it looked like he was on a solo test session ;D I think we'd have seen a few more strong results from Ducati if Gibernau wasn't such a cock. No wonder Rossi is happy with Edwards as his teammate next year, it beats having a Spaniard :o
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #88 on: October 31, 2006, 12:17:21 PM »
Congrats to Bayliss - Go the Aussies!
(Thanks to Casey Stoner for his part in it too)

Congrats to Hayden - Honda is on top - where it should be!
He Deserves it and has fought hard to win it.

It could only have been better if Bayliss won the Championship on a Honda!

Pedrosa - Burn Baby Burn...

Rossi - a good sport, gracious in defeat. Not something he's used to either.
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Re: MotoGP heating up
« Reply #89 on: October 31, 2006, 01:43:58 PM »
valentino rossi,like him or not,is a class act.the way he shook nickys hand after the race,showed what kind of man he is.
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