Topic: offence taken ?

[Raul CB750K1]

Tell you what; when I'm away for a couple of days and I see a new post with 4 or 5 pages I know there is a heated debate inside. In that case, and this thread is one of them, I don't take the annoyance to read through all the posts, unless the title suggests there is something enlightening inside. I'm afraid this one is not the case either.


Raul


P.S. Yawn......

[nickjtc]

P.S. Yawn......

That possibly says it all!

[burmashave]

ding-ding: round one is over

Pssssssst...EC, post some dyno results, any dyno results.  Then, DG can question the validity of the results.  That should keep us busy for another 3 pages.

[my78k]

Perhaps we could add a forum...something like "anything goes" and then as threads that are deemed provocative or whatever could be moved there (or started there if someone has the foresight to see an impending troublesome post) so as to protect those that have no interest in partaking but would still allow others to standby and watch the train wreck so to speak...we would all know exactly what we are getting into prior to opening the thread...

Just a thought...it may let some vent their frustrations and get it over with...or it could lead to an all out war between individuals. I'll leave that up to the mods...

Dennis

p.s. I wouldn't mind seeing those dyno results! (he says while stoking the flames!)

[ElCheapo]

How about a Deals Gap show down?

Going in two weeks, which is about the final week for them.

DG = put your money where your mouth is. 

[kghost]

Have ya been to Deals gap cheapo?

That could well be fatal to both of ya.

Course that would end the arguing 

[Bob Wessner]

Let's end the arguing. We are starting to feel like school monitors refereeing a cafeteria food fight.

[ElCheapo]

Have ya been to Deals gap cheapo?

That could well be fatal to both of ya.

Course that would end the arguing 

Nope, makes the playing field even up.

[kghost]

Let's end the arguing. We are starting to feel like school monitors refereeing a cafeteria food fight.

Concur sir.

[dgfischer]

DG = put your money where your mouth is. 

 I have. I havent made any claims of any Dyno results that I cant back up. I havent claimed to have built a bike for 4 shows and then not been able to produce 1 picture of it IN a show. Every one saw it on a trailer in an empty parking lot, but none of it in a show. I havent made any claims of being on my 5th build and not been able to back it up wiith pics.

I'm not going to Deals Gap. I havent made any claims that I cant back up.

Your other business is photography. Then what would this moment be with out a photograph? They can back up their claims with photography and results, can you?
http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/iwoflag.htm

 You dont get it. I never said my bike was faster than yours, or my builds are better than yours or any one else. I just said "Show me proof"
    You can't.

[ElCheapo]

I can show proof many times over. For reference you are starting to embarass yourself. I am embarassed for you, really. I did step to the plate and give you sincere input to help you in your business to help you, I meant all of this as a friend really. I admit I know I don't know everything about this business or building bikes. You appear to know everything. I can only hope to keep learning till the day I die. If I stop learning I will stop building bikes because I am already dead.

I learn from everyone on this board. Even the new guys. Nothing like a fresh set of eyes on an old project or problem.

For reference you water head: HP means nothing in the corners unless the bike itself can handle it. HP means #$%* in the corners. Push past centifugal force and the tire coeffiecient to friction and you will be in the trees. Don't believe this just look at the performance of the RZ 350 Kenny Roberts with soft compound race tires. This bike was awsome because it had a weight to horse power ratio that was right on spot. I know as I rode one last week, this gave me new respect for Yamahas. This was a rare treat.

But nonetheless I have plenty of horse power on Home Wrecker. And I still do not need to prove it to you. I hope this makes you madder than a Skin Head watchin the Jeffersons.

Show me a real paint job, and I will show you Dyno results (which mean #$%* if rake and trail are way off on a bike). Nothing like 200HP squirrel ride. HP is not the beat all end all bench mark of a bike. If everything else is off then you need test pilots to ride your bikes. Now that is real safe.

This reminds me of highschool days. There were the Chevy guys (which I was one) screamin "Horse Power is God", then on Friday night the Dodge boys ("Torque is God") would be out doing wheel stands in cars that weighed twice as much. A 66 Belvedere with a police interceptor motor would do wheel stands with even the most inexperienced drivers. And just not ever need much more modification.

Also reminds me of the small guy in the bar that will run his mouth to no end at the big guy callin names until the big guy smashes him retarded right through the club window. Then dazed, brushes off the glass and gets up and starts to run his mouth again.  Some people are angry and stay there. I am not one of them.

In short piss off and find another hobby....besides me. I am sure your bikes need paint.

I can and will make my point in person if needed. Now piss off you fool. You have made it to the rank of only member on this board that I have EVER wanted to hurt. Badly....................

I have a hankering for a rusty multi colored bike, got one?

I will post the results and then you can stick your head in your ass (already there) and well.....just go hide.

Keep pushing, you will get the prize.

[ieism]

I learn from everyone on this board. Even the new guys.

Here's some advice from a newbie; enough off this useless discussion. You're using up my bandwith. Besides, we're all peaceloving hippies here, so who cares about horsepower?

[dgfischer]

I can show proof many times over. For reference you are starting to embarass yourself. I am embarassed for you, really. I did step to the plate and give you sincere input to help you in your business to help you, I meant all of this as a friend really. I admit I know I don't know everything about this business or building bikes. You appear to know everything. I can only hope to keep learning till the day I die. If I stop learning I will stop building bikes because I am already dead.

I learn from everyone on this board. Even the new guys. Nothing like a fresh set of eyes on an old project or problem.

For reference you water head: HP means nothing in the corners unless the bike itself can handle it. HP means #$%* in the corners. Push past centifugal force and the tire coeffiecient to friction and you will be in the trees. Don't believe this just look at the performance of the RZ 350 Kenny Roberts with soft compound race tires. This bike was awsome because it had a weight to horse power ratio that was right on spot. I know as I rode one last week, this gave me new respect for Yamahas. This was a rare treat.

But nonetheless I have plenty of horse power on Home Wrecker. And I still do not need to prove it to you. I hope this makes you madder than a Skin Head watchin the Jeffersons.

Show me a real paint job, and I will show you Dyno results (which mean #$%* if rake and trail are way off on a bike). Nothing like 200HP squirrel ride. HP is not the beat all end all bench mark of a bike. If everything else is off then you need test pilots to ride your bikes. Now that is real safe.

This reminds me of highschool days. There were the Chevy guys (which I was one) screamin "Horse Power is God", then on Friday night the Dodge boys ("Torque is God") would be out doing wheel stands in cars that weighed twice as much. A 66 Belvedere with a police interceptor motor would do wheel stands with even the most inexperienced drivers. And just not ever need much more modification.

Also reminds me of the small guy in the bar that will run his mouth to no end at the big guy callin names until the big guy smashes him retarded right through the club window. Then dazed, brushes off the glass and gets up and starts to run his mouth again.  Some people are angry and stay there. I am not one of them.

In short piss off and find another hobby....besides me. I am sure your bikes need paint.

I can and will make my point in person if needed. Now piss off you fool. You have made it to the rank of only member on this board that I have EVER wanted to hurt. Badly....................

I have a hankering for a rusty multi colored bike, got one?

I will post the results and then you can stick your head in your ass (already there) and well.....just go hide.

Keep pushing, you will get the prize.

It looks like you cant prove any of your claims then. But you can edit them to say something other than what you originally claimed. Prove your claims to the members of the message board who have also seen them and asked for them also.
    Shut me up with results. All you can do is skirt around your claims and not show anything but excuses.

[ElCheapo]

I learn from everyone on this board. Even the new guys.

Here's some advice from a newbie; enough off this useless discussion. You're using up my bandwith. Besides, we're all peaceloving hippies here, so who cares about horsepower?

I so agree.. Other ignored because I do not talk to water heads. How about the post season baseball. Anyone got the goods on it?

[dgfischer]

I learn from everyone on this board. Even the new guys.

Here's some advice from a newbie; enough off this useless discussion. You're using up my bandwith. Besides, we're all peaceloving hippies here, so who cares about horsepower?

I so agree.. Other ignored because I do not talk to water heads. How about the post season baseball. Anyone got the goods on it?

 Well EC, if you had the goods on post season baseball, we would have to wait for them also.

[eldar]

Ok this is a bunch of crap now. Seriously, you 2 have issues, go somewhere else. It is not that hard, really. You 2 really need a good #$%* slap cause that is how both of you are acting right now.

You know what, HP does not mean a thing, a dyno means nothing. The only way to really know a bike is to ride it.

You also want to know something else? Paint is crap. My bike needs new paint but from 10 feet away in the sunset, it looks like it rolled off the line.

Dont you 2 get it?  EC, you need to control the hot-headness, it does reflect badly and that is not good for any business.

DG, your dog has shades on to hide his red eyes from too much pot, that does not make you look any better. You want proof? Then go to his place and see for yourself cause with as bad as you are about this, you would not believe a pic. Get over it.

Would one of you finally be the better....whatever and have the good grace to just drop this senseless dick swinging crap?

This #$%* reminds me of first grade. I bet if we tried, all of us could at least reach college level.

This has got to be one of the stupidest back and forth school girl arguments I have ever read!

Did I just piss you 2 off? Oh well, what I said still stands no matter what either of you say. I have NEVER had this much trouble with ANYONE on this forum other than silicondoc and he was just here to cause trouble.


GET OVER IT ALREADY!!!!

[Glenn Stauffer]

Perhaps we could add a forum...something like "anything goes" and then as threads that are deemed provocative or whatever could be moved there (or started there if someone has the foresight to see an impending troublesome post) so as to protect those that have no interest in partaking but would still allow others to standby and watch the train wreck so to speak...we would all know exactly what we are getting into prior to opening the thread...

Back in the day, we had one forum which was supposed to be an extension of the mailing list focused on technical talk specific to Honda SOHC/4 motorcycles.  Because there were always conversations that strayed off-topic, we created the Open Forum to provide a place where people could discuss all the other topics that interested them.

I don't really consider these long-winded topics a problem though I do not like to see members of this site engage in personal attacks and other negativity because that is not what this site is about.  As far as I'm concerned, if you can't work out your problems with another member of this site through PM messages, you ought to just give it up and get on with more important things.  The whole point of this site is to provide a place where people who are interested in the Honda single over-head cam fours can meet to discuss the bikes.  That's it plain and simple - nothing more and nothing less.

Glenn

[heffay]

God?  is that you?

[heffay]

 

[nickjtc]

God?  is that you?

No, she's out at the moment.

[my78k]

Sorry Glenn, Since you put it that way I actually feel kinda silly for suggesting it.Guess I got caught up in watching abit of a fight going on...personally I blame it on my Canadian heritage growing up watching Hockey fights every Saturday night!!!

Dennis

[Sam Green Racing]

Wish I had a computer at home, seems like I have missed hell of a weekend

Sam.

[scunny]

Glenn, pleased to meet you, or should I say your internet self. This is a great site you have. I have to take the blame for this thread, I actually started it because I was amazed at how carried away some people can get and.. I can sometimes be a bit of a stirrer. please forgive me 

[Rocking-M]

I guess all this proves the point from the orginal post.
Some americans are way to quick to take offense

[BobbyR]

Nope we are peaceful till provoked.