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Offline PheNam

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Bike with missing title
« on: March 23, 2015, 11:57:00 AM »
Hey guys, I came across a 550 that has no title that I am thinking of purchasing. Having little experience with dealing with issues like missing title, I am not sure where to proceed. Can you guys give me some advice? I do have the vin...
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 01:53:06 PM »
I have been doing some research and found a very long and involved thread concerning the VT title registration.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2300035c58b02d5780ebc1468065d3d9&t=655441

I live in Illinois. But the bike is from another state. What kind of information Do you need?
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 03:15:59 PM »
Any way you can get the frame and engine number before you buy? Then run those numbers by the cops to be sure it is not stolen. Some states titled these bikes by the frame number and some by the engine number. However, if the seller just can't find the title have him file for a lost / replacement title.
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 04:21:41 PM »
This bike is a barn find and in immaculate condition. I am afraid that someone else is going to scoop it up before I do. Will there be issues if I buy the bike and file for a lost/replacement tile myself?
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 04:34:31 PM »
Yep, just did this.  I went through this outfit:  http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html  For bikes over 500cc, the VIN has to be run by law enforcement or DMV.
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 05:07:42 PM »
Yep, just did this.  I went through this outfit:  http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html 

Not a bad deal!
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2015, 09:07:36 AM »
I'm in MD and went through VT to get a bike tagged without a title.  It was pretty simple and just followed the steps on the ADVRider link.

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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2015, 09:35:29 AM »
I'm in MD and went through VT to get a bike tagged without a title.  It was pretty simple and just followed the steps on the ADVRider link.

I'm in PA. which is a Tough  >:( 'title only' state and no problem w/ a VT. registration and then applying for PA. reg. and title,got my PA. reg. and title right away on my CB350.
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2015, 09:51:15 AM »
+1...WI is terrible to get a title. Went the VT route and got my registration in 3 weeks. Now in about 6 months I will take it to the WI DMV and get my title. Completely legit too. Just not having to deal with the WI red tape.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2015, 12:04:52 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2015, 07:32:20 AM »
Yep, just did this.  I went through this outfit:  http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html 

Not a bad deal!
This looks very easy.
The Vermont "way" to get one is pretty easy too with no added fees for someone else to do the work.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2015, 10:06:09 AM »
Does this work on salvage titled bikes as a way to get an unbranded do over for a bike restored from ground up?    I don't think a salvage titled be can be unbranded to anything better than "rebuilt". Wondering if when VT runs vin and sees "salvage" they automatically issue you a salvage title?  Anyone have any idea?
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2015, 04:58:44 PM »
Does this work on salvage titled bikes as a way to get an unbranded do over for a bike restored from ground up?    I don't think a salvage titled be can be unbranded to anything better than "rebuilt". Wondering if when VT runs vin and sees "salvage" they automatically issue you a salvage title?  Anyone have any idea?

You won't get a title from Vermont, only a registration.  Makes me wonder if there's anything on my registration that accounts for that.  I'll have a look later at it...

edit:  Here's what mine looks like.  There is a "title" block.  Maybe a brand would go there?

And judging from this, I probably could have found the forms myself.  It cost the OP about $90 but that was about 4 years ago so I think the $150 I spent was well worth it.  I get a discount on the next one I do too..

I have been doing some research and found a very long and involved thread concerning the VT title registration.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?s=2300035c58b02d5780ebc1468065d3d9&t=655441

I live in Illinois. But the bike is from another state. What kind of information Do you need?
« Last Edit: March 26, 2015, 05:32:04 PM by fmctm1sw »
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1994 Honda TRX300
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2015, 08:49:17 PM »
thanks for going to the trouble to look fmctm and others. I suspect that the only way I'm going to find out if it works is to throw the dice on the VT fees and see what happens.
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2015, 09:02:05 PM »
thanks for going to the trouble to look fmctm and others. I suspect that the only way I'm going to find out if it works is to throw the dice on the VT fees and see what happens.

I think 400cc? and below is cheaper..smaller bikes less$.
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« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:22 PM »
thanks for going to the trouble to look fmctm and others. I suspect that the only way I'm going to find out if it works is to throw the dice on the VT fees and see what happens.

I think 400cc? and below is cheaper..smaller bikes less$.

When I called ITS they said they charge by book value now.  Here's the fees for moto recycle:  http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html
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Dude is that a tire ? or an O-ring..??

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This is not a pod thread
This is not a #$%* on my vacuum gauges thread
This is a help or GTFO thread.

1973 CB350F
1973 CB350G
1975 CB550K
1983 GL650I
1973 CB750K3 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=92888.0)
1984 Kawasaki KLT-250 (AKA 3 wheeler of death)
1994 Honda TRX300
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Re: Bike with missing title
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2015, 06:45:17 PM »
thanks for going to the trouble to look fmctm and others. I suspect that the only way I'm going to find out if it works is to throw the dice on the VT fees and see what happens.

I think 400cc? and below is cheaper..smaller bikes less$.

When I called ITS they said they charge by book value now.  Here's the fees for moto recycle:  http://www.motorecyclenow.com/title-service.html

Older bikes go for less,that helps  :)
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  I love the small ones too !
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