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Burnouts?
« on: October 14, 2006, 06:31:39 PM »
I have a '78 550.  Should I be able to do a burnout?  I got the bike just a couple of months ago, and it has needed a bit of work.  I just replaced the clutch, and I expected that this would enable my burnout dreams... no dice.  I am about 195lb, and my dad suggested that the bike just didn't have enough power.  I think it should.  What do you think? 

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2006, 06:47:42 PM »
Your weight should not factor into your doing a burnout. If you look at most pictures of people doing them they are standing with their weight off the bike while grabbing a fistful of the front brake. If you mean you'd like to do a burnout while taking off from a light then you'll need a MUCH bigger bike.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2006, 07:16:44 PM »
I've done burnouts on Honda CT70's . Anything will burnout including bicycles
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2006, 07:29:54 PM »
I've done burnouts on Honda CT70's . Anything will burnout including bicycles

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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2006, 08:44:53 PM »
If you can find a good corner to stick your front tire into it's a little easier than trying to hold the front brake and twist the throttle at the same time.  Ideally the walls making the corner would be brick or block on a nice fresh parking lot....

Just a little lazier way to do it ;)

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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2006, 10:51:22 PM »
Good way to keep the tire manufacturers in business  :D :D ;D ;)
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2006, 07:21:47 AM »
Good way to keep the tire manufacturers in business  :D :D ;D ;)

Agree. Not to be a rude dick, but what's the point. Wheelies, stoppies, burnouts, riding like a #$%*.........I just don't get it.

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2006, 07:55:18 AM »
I miss stated my goal  :-[  I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light.  This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen.  I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test.  I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it. 

Being curious now.  How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out?  Can a cb750 do it? 


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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2006, 08:36:36 AM »
Good way to keep the tire manufacturers in business  :D :D ;D ;)

Agree. Not to be a rude dick, but what's the point. Wheelies, stoppies, burnouts, riding like a #$%*.........I just don't get it.

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2006, 09:05:06 AM »
The concept is to be able to take off without screeching your tire. It means your using the available traction without using too much. Or go for broke and try to "screech" on takeoff. Let me know how many times you do it before you dump the bike

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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2006, 09:10:25 AM »
I miss stated my goal  :-[  I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light.  This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen.  I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test.  I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it. 

Being curious now.  How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out?  Can a cb750 do it? 



please only try what you're trying to accomplish when you don't have to ask these questions... you sound too inexperienced to even be considering this.  the thing i don't think you realize is that it's not like a car... with 195 pounds on top of it it will most likely wheelie before "peeling out" and if it does "peel out" it will MOST LIKELY not go straight and the rear wheel will try to go around the front wheel.  get a crotch rocket if you want to tear up your machinery... i'd hate to see an SOHC4 go bye bye because some newbe wanted to do a burnout.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2006, 09:10:40 AM »
If you give enough juice for the rear tire to loose traction on take off, prepare for the ass end of your bike to try to switch places with your front end.
Try it on a rainy, empty road.
After you pick up the bike and check for bent parts on both you and your bike, try again until you learn to control it, or you or your bike is busted up enough that you can't try anymore.




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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2006, 09:15:00 AM »
If you give enough juice for the rear tire to loose traction on take off, prepare for the ass end of your bike to try to switch places with your front end.
Try it on a rainy, empty road.
After you pick up the bike and check for bent parts on both you and your bike, try again until you learn to control it, or you or your bike is busted up enough that you can't try anymore.






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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2006, 09:33:59 AM »
Trying to do a burnout is pointless on a sohc4.  It's way more fun to try to learn how far you can lean it in a corner, maybe even scrape the footpegs :o  I have fun keeping up with weak sport bike riders in the twisties. ;D

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2006, 10:19:58 AM »
I miss stated my goal  :-[  I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light.  This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen.  I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test.  I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it. 

Being curious now.  How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out?  Can a cb750 do it? 



please only try what you're trying to accomplish when you don't have to ask these questions... you sound too inexperienced to even be considering this.  the thing i don't think you realize is that it's not like a car... with 195 pounds on top of it it will most likely wheelie before "peeling out" and if it does "peel out" it will MOST LIKELY not go straight and the rear wheel will try to go around the front wheel.  get a crotch rocket if you want to tear up your machinery... i'd hate to see an SOHC4 go bye bye because some newbe wanted to do a burnout.

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2006, 10:35:52 AM »
I hope your insurance agent isn't a member of this board ;D

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2006, 10:37:17 AM »
You won't be burning out on any bike. If you've got enough power to screech on takeoff, you're going to be flipping the bike over.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2006, 10:40:44 AM »
People who want to ride like jerks are the ones who caused the motorcycle death rate to rise, and it's this rate which makes my loved ones very uncomfortable.  They just won't believe me when I tell them that, "Yeah, it's dangerous, but the majority of people getting killed out there are the ones doing crazy stupid tricks to show how big and brassy their balls are..."

I was riding home from work yesterday to come upon a bunch of stupid kids on sport bikes pulling short wheelies riding next to eachother in heavy traffic (i.e. on a 6 lane hwythey were boxed in on all sides).  I stayed as far back from them as I could, both to avoid going down myself trying to dodge their broken bikes and bodies when they dropped the bikes at 60mph, and so as not to sully the classic SOHC4 name with the cagers around me.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2006, 10:43:48 AM »
I don't knock people for wanting to push the limits on bikes, but there is a time and place for it. On the streets is not the place for it. If you want to push the limits go to a track school. While they are expensive, safety is a priority and you'll probably end up a better rider, instead of ending up someone's hood ornament because you were trying to look cool

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2006, 10:46:23 AM »
I miss stated my goal :-[ I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light. This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen. I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test. I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it.

Being curious now. How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out? Can a cb750 do it?



  A big,heavy V-twin bike(1500-1800cc) with performance enhancements has enough torque to do what your asking. The above warnings do apply and even experienced riders will be picking their arse off the ground. A Cb750 will not screech from a light, damn hard to even get the front wheel to lift an inch off the ground.

  Plenty of fun to be had with the 550/4 though. It handles the turns much better than the 750, so don't worry 'bout impressing people at the stoplights. Practice improving your skills in the twisties.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2006, 10:51:21 AM »
I miss stated my goal  :-[  I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light.  This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen.  I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test.  I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it. 

Being curious now.  How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out?  Can a CB750 do it? 


No street bike that i know of will do what your talking about,most bikes inherently will do a wheelie before the rear wheel looses traction
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« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2006, 11:09:20 AM »
Perhaps if your tires are bald street tires...

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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2006, 11:10:29 AM »
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2006, 11:13:29 AM »
I guess I hit on a touchy subject.  Either that or a lot of people are grumpy with their Sunday morning hangovers  :D  I am a new rider, and therefore have some stupid unanswered questions.  I am disappointed that I didn't think of the whole wheelie thing.  Obviously (now that you say it) a wheelie happens first.  I think I won't be trying that any time soon, though.

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2006, 11:18:33 AM »
The problem with burning out on a bike from a stop, is that your bike is not straight up and down. As  soon as the tire looses traction, it will start swinging out the opposite way you are leaning. i.e., at a stop, if both feet are not down, you are likely leaning to the left. That means the rear tire will swing out to the right. You will fall down. If you have both feet down, the bike will start to shimmy left to right as the tire loses traction. One of those shimmies will be enough to finally get the rear tire getting ahead of itself either left or right.
The only real way to do a burnout like you want, is to get moving in a straight line first. At about 15 miles per hour, get off the seat, lean as far forward as you can, and crack the throttle open while feathering the front brake a bit. You will still likely spill it, as you will get the same shimmy, but to a lesser extent. And, as you haven not ridden motorcycles much (as evidenced by the question at hand), it is extrememly unsafe, and this method will have you unbalanced and going faster than you'd like when you eat #$%*.

I learned this stuff from years of riding dirtbikes. Dirt is way softer than asphalt. Have fun.


/edit: you posted while I was writing this. Good on you for letting common sense get the better of you :)
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