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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2006, 11:21:13 AM »
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2006, 11:22:10 AM »
  Bill, just checked your profile and see your in Oakland. I'm up by Piedmont ave. If you need any help in seeing that your 550 is running as it should, or have concerns about any of it's functions, feel free to PM me. Also, Hayasa Motorbikes by Laney College does good work on these older bikes, though the owner can be a bit fickle about what type of work he'll do depending on bikes condition.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2006, 11:35:44 AM »
I don't understand why its a big deal to do wheelies and burnouts although I did on my old Z bikes when I was younger. these days,you see these crotch rockets doing wheelstands at highway speed.What in the hell is up with that #$%*? Looks like a death wish to me. My old Kawi 1000 would light the hell out of the tire but even my dumb young ass was smart enough to figure out that I couldn't afford to buy a new rear tire every month!!
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2006, 11:54:10 AM »
I am a new rider, and therefore have some stupid unanswered questions.  I am disappointed that I didn't think of the whole wheelie thing.  Obviously (now that you say it) a wheelie happens first.  I think I won't be trying that any time soon, though.

GHOF speaking. I can understand why a novice would be interested in exploring the 'limits' of the capability of their bike. However I'm with the others who have said "what's the point?", but that's mainly because I am a GHOF with limited imagination and who has never attempted stunts of any description, ever, even when I was riding bikes that were potentially capable of it.

Personally, I am more impressed by watching a rider who shows good control of their machine under normal and abnormal riding conditions; who shows finesse in up and downshifting and braking; who stops at stop signs; who shows courtesy to other road users.....

As an instructor my advice to newcomers was always: learn to do the routine stuff well. If you want to be a show-off, take training and only do it off road.

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2006, 12:29:58 PM »
GHOF  ???

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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2006, 12:42:00 PM »
I miss stated my goal :-[ I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light. This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen. I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test. I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it.

Being curious now. How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out? Can a cb750 do it?



  A big,heavy V-twin bike(1500-1800cc) with performance enhancements has enough torque to do what your asking. The above warnings do apply and even experienced riders will be picking their arse off the ground. A Cb750 will not screech from a light, damn hard to even get the front wheel to lift an inch off the ground.

  Plenty of fun to be had with the 550/4 though. It handles the turns much better than the 750, so don't worry 'bout impressing people at the stoplights. Practice improving your skills in the twisties.

Sorry Scondon, incorrect on both counts regarding the CB750.

For the record...as Mreick said....even a bicycle will do a burn out.

The CB750 will do a burn out stopped or rolling.

Will also wheelie. You can even do them at 45 MPH.


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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2006, 12:45:07 PM »
Shenanigans!
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« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »
I miss stated my goal :-[ I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light. This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen. I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test. I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it.

Being curious now. How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out? Can a cb750 do it?



  A big,heavy V-twin bike(1500-1800cc) with performance enhancements has enough torque to do what your asking. The above warnings do apply and even experienced riders will be picking their arse off the ground. A Cb750 will not screech from a light, damn hard to even get the front wheel to lift an inch off the ground.

  Plenty of fun to be had with the 550/4 though. It handles the turns much better than the 750, so don't worry 'bout impressing people at the stoplights. Practice improving your skills in the twisties.

Sorry Scondon, incorrect on both counts regarding the CB750.

For the record...as Mreick said....even a bicycle will do a burn out.

The CB750 will do a burn out stopped or rolling.

Will also wheelie. You can even do them at 45 MPH.


No I won't tell you how.





  Wheelies aren't impossible, just "damn hard". Good to know that "laying scratch" is possible. No need for you to tell me how, I'll figure it out.

  Seems you know a lot more than are willing to share, Kghost.
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #33 on: October 15, 2006, 01:24:06 PM »
All are tricks better left to the experienced veteran riders, not newbies, myself included.

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« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2006, 01:53:24 PM »
I never felt that the reward was worth the risk!!!!!   :-\

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« Reply #35 on: October 15, 2006, 02:07:51 PM »
I miss stated my goal :-[ I wanted to screech my tire while taking off from a light. This is my first bike, and I wasn't really sure what to expect, but from the first reply, it sounds like it's not going to happen. I was using that as a test for how well my bike was running, but it sounds like that is a VERY poor test. I'm glad to hear that it isn't really possible, because my bike seems very far from being able to do it.

Being curious now. How big of a bike do you need to be able to peel out? Can a cb750 do it?



  A big,heavy V-twin bike(1500-1800cc) with performance enhancements has enough torque to do what your asking. The above warnings do apply and even experienced riders will be picking their arse off the ground. A Cb750 will not screech from a light, damn hard to even get the front wheel to lift an inch off the ground.

  Plenty of fun to be had with the 550/4 though. It handles the turns much better than the 750, so don't worry 'bout impressing people at the stoplights. Practice improving your skills in the twisties.

Sorry Scondon, incorrect on both counts regarding the CB750.

For the record...as Mreick said....even a bicycle will do a burn out.

The CB750 will do a burn out stopped or rolling.

Will also wheelie. You can even do them at 45 MPH.


No I won't tell you how.




Those are great pics bro. ;) ;D
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Re: Burnouts?
« Reply #36 on: October 15, 2006, 02:11:17 PM »
Thanks....my dad took them  :D
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« Reply #37 on: October 15, 2006, 05:32:36 PM »
19 years ago I had a 73 Yamaha TX500 DOHC twin.  It could smoke the tires in a heart beat! When I took off I could leave a black strip some 20 feet, changing to lighter shades of grey with each shift! I have never really mastered holding a wheelie though.

The fact is a 500 has plenty of power to turn the rear wheel all day long.

Another fact is that I'm a LOT more carefull about my riding after I high-sided it at 70 mph back in 88! (lost control of a tank slapper)  Spent a week in the hospital growing scabs to show off when I returned to college.  The up side is that I saved a ton of money that the bike would have cost me over the years, in exchange for a hard lesson learned!
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« Reply #38 on: October 15, 2006, 06:12:04 PM »
Well since eveyone one else decided to throw their opinions around, I shall do the same.   
I like to have fun on my bike, I live in an area that is flat and has less curves than the olson twins do. So I drive fast and do the occasion burn out. Used to do all kinds of stuff on dirt bikes. Do I do with a passenger? NO. DO I do where I could hurt someone else? NO However I am not going to tiptoe through life like almost all of you apparently do, just so I can die unfullfilled at some obscene old age. 

Is it possible to hurt myself? Yes but that can happen riding as safe as possible. Am I more likely to get hurt, maybe. But you never know, many here on this forum have gotten hurt when they were NOT screwing around.

I guess I choose to live my life at least somewhat. I would rather dies with memories and happiness than regretting things I did not do.

You all dont like it, talk to elcheapo about it. ;D

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« Reply #39 on: October 15, 2006, 06:16:20 PM »
Nicely said Eldar.

I bet alot of us looneys started on dirtbikes.

Not knocking anyone who didn't grow up on dirt bikes but I have a firm belief it makes a better rider.
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« Reply #40 on: October 15, 2006, 06:18:23 PM »
nice one eldar.

and regarding my earlier comment about getting a rocket so as not to destroy a relic... my burnout toy is a 1992 7r.   ;D  my new tires are on the way so i guess it's time to BURN RUBBER!

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« Reply #41 on: October 15, 2006, 06:19:48 PM »
I think so to. I also believe it is best to start with a smaller bike, such as a dirtbike, to gain exp.  I would never let my kids start off with a 600CC rocket.
I bombed all over with my 100cc yamaha enduro. Jumps whenever possible.  I have yet to lay down my 750 either moving or standing still.

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« Reply #42 on: October 15, 2006, 06:32:33 PM »
I think so to. I also believe it is best to start with a smaller bike, such as a dirtbike, to gain exp.  I would never let my kids start off with a 600CC rocket.
I bombed all over with my 100cc yamaha enduro. Jumps whenever possible.  I have yet to lay down my 750 either moving or standing still.

We will try not to poke too much fun at ya for starting on a yamaha.  ;D

I started on a XL100S enduro so I know what ya mean.

Even ventured to the dark side on a yz250...because hey...they were the bomb in thier day.

You get to learn handling and control (and out of control) without getting run over.
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« Reply #43 on: October 15, 2006, 06:39:41 PM »
Having broken a rather large number of bones on my right side, and a smaller number on my left, from shenanigans, I try to stear people away from doing things better learned on soft dirt.
Not that it does any good. The only teachings that stick are self taught lessons from failure. Doesn't mean I;ll stop telling people that multiple breaks, fractues and contusions are NOT fun.
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« Reply #44 on: October 15, 2006, 06:41:40 PM »
My first bike was an old 125CC MCB Monarch!
I'd take odds that nobody here knows what that is! ;D
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« Reply #45 on: October 15, 2006, 06:52:18 PM »
enormous butterfly? ;D

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« Reply #46 on: October 15, 2006, 06:55:57 PM »
I live in an area that is flat and has less curves than the olson twins do.

Nice one!   :D :D :D ;)
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« Reply #47 on: October 15, 2006, 07:18:48 PM »
My first bike was an old 125CC MCB Monarch!
I'd take odds that nobody here knows what that is! ;D

If you mean a Monark.....yes I do looks like the one below.

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« Reply #48 on: October 15, 2006, 07:28:46 PM »
What a spectacular topic!  ;D ;D ;D ;D

I know a bunch of these people: stunters. The good ones have specially prepared 600s that could hardly reach 80 mph. It's really quite amazing. But why would these people risk life and limb just to be sitting on the top of their bars, hearing the scrape of their rear fender?

Pushing yourself, feeling the rush, pulling out of the pack... It's only human!

Many of the extremely knowledgeable people on this site do it every day, but in different forms.

Why would you mod a CB when you can get so much more performance while spending less money with a new bike?

It's different. You love it. You want to see how far you can take that engine or suspension. It's natural.

I've been there, I am there, I will always be there - But I understand there are potential consequences for my actions. I once was set on standing on my seat with no hands. I achieved it in a parking lot, but only for 5 seconds. Then, the bike abruptly slowed down and  crashed... Wrecking both turn signals, splinering the custom saddlebags, and denting the tank of my UNCLE's bike. The cops came, they asked me about all of the BURNOUT marks in the parking lot, none of which i was responsible for, but it was alll possible. It just so happened that my motorcycle permit ran out THAT day and the bike wasn't inspected. The cop acted like I was SOL and my legal record was changed forever... But then he said if I can ride away, I'm off. I rode away, biting the chinstrap to console the barely-operable wrist.

I do burnouts occaisionaly and in my gallery you can see that I've stood on the seat (with hands, much safer ;) ;) ;) )

Just know the potential risks of what your doing. It is fun, but it could change your life in an instant.

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« Reply #49 on: October 15, 2006, 07:31:28 PM »
Like I said.....