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Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« on: October 16, 2006, 04:05:04 PM »
   There are 2 types of weight that affect the way a bike handles and rides. There is sprung weight (this is the part that your shocks hold up and compress when you sit on your bike- engine, frame, body parts, etc) and unsprung weight (this is the part that is in contact with the road and that moves up and down with the road irregularities – your tires, wheels, discs, swing arm and usually 1/2 of the shock and forks are considered as unsprung weight as the other 1/2 of the weight is connected to the bike and moves with the sprung weight ). The lighter that you can get the unsprung weight, the faster your wheel will rebound after hitting a bump in the road and the less gyroscopic weight of a lighter rim you have to turn when moving, the easier a bike will steer. The lighter unsprung weight of an aluminum rim allows the suspension to work quicker and in turn keeps the contact patch of the tire on the road better 
An aluminum rim is lighter than the stock steel rim and allows the suspension to act and react quicker. When the suspension is compressed by the wheel moving up by a road irregularity, the inertia of the wheel has to be over come by the suspension before the suspension can return the wheel to the road. With the more weight of a steel rim there is more inertia that has to be stopped by the suspension and then over come by the suspension to return the tire back to the road. With the less weight of an aluminum rim, there is less inertia for the suspension to over come and the quicker your suspension can react.
     There are some economical alternatives to the pricey aftermarket aluminum rims. The CB 750 Automatic has aluminum rims and are a good alternative to the heavy steel rims. The 1975-1977 GL 1000 Goldwing also has Aluminum rims, but being a shaft drive motorcycle, the rear wheel will need to be relaced to your stock chain drive hub.
 The GL 1000 front rims are 1.85 X 19 and are commonly used on the front of many Honda motorcycles. It will fit on the CB 500 550 and 750 and will work with either single or dual disc 6 bolt pattern brake discs. The GL 1000 discs are look to be the same as the CB 550, but have more offset to them than the CB 550 discs. The CB 750 uses a larger front disc (diameter) than the GL 1000, so you would need to use your existing disc (or disc).

     It looks as the SOHC gods are shining their happiness down on all of you, on this, your lucky day. It just so happens, I have an Aluminum Front wheel off a GL 1000 on Ebay right now.
    Heres the link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=017&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=270041152762&rd=1,1

  Lets all watch this and in a weeks time when it ends, we will all know the answer to that nagging question we all have in the backs of our mind “
 What can I get for an ALUMINUM GL 1000 19 INCH FRONT WHEEL?”

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 05:59:29 PM »

  Lets all watch this and in a weeks time when it ends, we will all know the answer to that nagging question we all have in the backs of our mind “
 What can I get for an ALUMINUM GL 1000 19 INCH FRONT WHEEL?”


Well, if it had a tire in good shape, speedo gearbox w/cable, both rotors, and rust-free spokes with no rim damage, I'd guess $51. Without that extra stuff, I'd guess less than $51. ;D ;D ;D Recent purchase below:

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 06:45:57 PM »
aluminum however is not as strong or fatigue resistant as steel. It does not rust but does corrode which is really just as bad depending on your alloy. But if you can keep it in good shape, then weight loss is a good thing.

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006, 05:22:55 PM »
To Dgfisher, I am the one that bought your wheel. Good to see that I got it from a fellow member. Now to the point, after reading the first post I came away with the impression that I could just bolt my CB550 disk to the Gl hub and bolt it on ? please say yes because than I will not have to build both wheels.Ibought the GL rear wheel for $15.00 off Ebay and am going to lace it up with a CB750 hub to get a bigger rea brake. I Hope it helps in the ride, go along with the new shooks that are going on in this faze of the rebuild.

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2006, 01:55:12 PM »
Thanks for the reply and thanks again for the wheel.

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2006, 06:50:02 PM »
I should have read this thread more carefully. I should have also counted the number of bolts that hold the brake disc to my front hub. But until I had these two wheels side by side I was oblivious. My CB650 has a really crappy front wheel (see the rust?) and I thought a GL1000 wheel would be the cat's pajamas. Silly me.



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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2006, 08:24:32 PM »
Joshua, here's an idea.  Get a rotor with a 6 bolt pattern, and take the new one and your old one to a place that does brake rotor turning.  Have them mill down the 6 bolt pattern one down to the same thickness as your 5 bolt pattern one.  I don't know how difficult it will be for them, but its worth discussing.

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2006, 08:45:02 PM »
...or just buy a cb550 hub, and a fresh set of spokes. both can be had for fairly cheap, and relacing is easy.
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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2006, 09:17:08 AM »
I think lacing the GL1000 rim to my CB650's hub is the best plan. I've never laced a wheel before, but I'm game. Since the wheel is coming apart I may have the aluminum rim powder coated black to match the rear wheel which I painted black. I would have had the rear wheel powder coated, but I didn't want to disassemble and relace it. I'll probably tear down the rear wheel when the new rear tire is worn out and have the rim powder coated then.

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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2006, 09:30:38 AM »
that 650 disc appears suspiciously similar in diameter and surface area to a cb500 disc (smaller than the 750 of gl), and which has 6 bolt holes, it may bolt right up with no mods...
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Re: Why Aluminum Rims Work Better
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2006, 12:07:59 PM »
any 40 hole rim should lace up to the cb hub, as long as the hole pattern is the same. i'd wager that it'll lace up no problem. i'd disassemble the old wheel and mock it up with the old spokes, but i'm sure it'll work. my rear is a 16" HD rim, and it laced to the cb hub fine.
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