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Offline stevewj

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CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« on: April 27, 2015, 12:11:03 PM »
Simple question - I have a CB 550 1978 which is great but with a nasty frame
I have seen a CB 750 rolling chassis again 1978 for sale, how similar are the frames ?
How easy would it be to transplant the 550 engine and gearbox into the 750 frame ?
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2015, 12:16:05 PM »
Easy?
If you have to ask, you probably cant do it.
It isn't a dig, just is what it is.

I don't actually see the point in the swap.
Honda made millions of both.
Just find what you need.
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2015, 12:38:08 PM »
Very difficult to get them to fit. Mounting holes on frames and engine differ greatly. Engines are angled differently to each other. Overall width of 550 is more narrow. Among other things...

I'd think you could source a new frame or refurb yours for far less trouble. What's wrong with your stock 550 frame?
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2015, 01:15:48 PM »
Even if you do manage to get a 550 into the 750 frame, that will not be a fun to ride bike.
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2015, 01:58:39 PM »
The balance and handling is MUCH better with the 550 frame.  If you fabricate new engine mounts for the 750 it will be like sticking a Civic DX engine in a full size sedan.
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2015, 03:30:07 PM »
Most guys want to squeeze a 750 in a 550.
A 550 in a 750 frame would be  a waste of time, money and energy.
A 650 would be a better candidate as the engine should slip right in but I don't know of anyone who has done it, I wouldn't do it unless there were no more 500/550  frames left in the world.
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2015, 03:38:04 PM »
Quote from: rb550four on April 27, 2015, 03:30:07 PM
Most guys want to squeeze a 750 in a 550.
A 550 in a 750 frame would be  a waste of time, money and energy.
A 650 would be a better candidate as the engine should slip right in but I don't know of anyone who has done it, I wouldn't do it unless there were no more 500/550  frames left in the world.

I'd throw a 650 engine into a 550/500 frame....There, I think we have everything covered now.... ;D ;D ;)
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2015, 06:13:41 PM »
Me too!   ;D
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2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2015, 11:34:02 AM »
So... That's a no then
Thanks guys !
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2015, 11:36:45 AM »
Think I'll sell it and start a new search when I reach Mallorca.
Anyone know any classic bike guys on the island ?
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2015, 11:55:52 AM »
Make a stop in Jerez this weekend for the MotoGP race on Sunday. 
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
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"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2015, 12:53:40 PM »
Not going til the 28th May lol
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Re: CB 550F in a CB 750 frame
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2015, 01:50:19 PM »
If you are still there in Mid June, go to the Catalunya GP on June 14.  Or, you could divert to Portigal to see World Superbike racing at Portimao on June 7!
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1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

Sold/Emeritus
1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold
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