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Offline la ca fe

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cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« on: May 05, 2015, 06:51:46 PM »
Could a 1978 cb750 supersport use a 1976 supersport swing arm and wheels?

I want to use the spoke wheels on my '78 f.
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2015, 09:04:53 PM »
I think it's possible, but not direct bolt on. 
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »
78F swingarm is wider and you have to use it, the top shock mounts are also wider, you'll need all the correct spacers to line the wheel up, you'll need a 78K sprocket carrier to keep the chain lined up correctly, its 10mm wider, as is the 78F chain line. It can be done but isn't straight forward, research it well... Not too sure about the front but i'm sure someone else will chime in on that..
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2015, 03:45:06 AM »
Or lace your Comstar hubs to spoke rims?

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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2015, 04:03:59 AM »
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2015, 05:40:33 AM »
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2015, 04:37:35 PM »
I do like the conversion.
I think I might contact the guy who makes them.
Thanks for the link.
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2015, 02:56:15 AM »
I replaced my original F2 front and rear with F1 parts.

used the original stem though (upgraded to 2 calipers so I could use the F2 splitter instead of the longer bolt method.

so you need forks, front wheel and spacers + brake parts.

For the rear , swingarm, wheels, spacers and use the F2 sprocket carrier
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2015, 02:52:10 AM »
is the F1 swingarm absolutely necessary? any metode to use the F2 one with the F1 hub?
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2015, 11:42:48 PM »
well, mounted the F1 wheel on the F2 swingarm and seem to fit just fine...
But then I read it does look like it fits but it's not good. something is off with spacing I think.

So I just sourced and F1 swingarm...
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2015, 01:42:55 AM »
What is off with spacing? Are the wheels in line?  Spacing can be often dealt with.
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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2015, 05:02:55 AM »
This guys are in Vienna, Austria




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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2015, 09:18:14 AM »
The later motors used a 630 chain, which was wider than the 530s that the older motors used. Honda had to space the rear sprocket 10mm out, and then build a shoulder on the upper left rear shock mount so that it all lined up correctly. You can do the swap, but I think you'll need a new spacer for the axle (using the later swing arm) and a 10mm offset rear sprocket from CycleX. If you use an older swing arm, your left rear shock won't be straight.
If it's worth doing, it's worth doing twice.

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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2015, 11:14:06 AM »

Thank you, Tugboat.

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Re: cb750 supersport wheel swap??
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2015, 11:39:56 AM »
Or lace your Comstar hubs to spoke rims?

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When you posted that, I had not looked at the link and simply thought, "You must be mistaken."  WOW, that's pretty impressive work!
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