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Offline Calisoul

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brat style bike guide???
« on: May 19, 2015, 10:21:18 PM »
Although there is a lot of info on bike builds out there, it all seems to be scattered. Is there anyplace that has a real guide to building a brat style bike?
I've been piecing together info from various posts on here and other sites but nothing that is very concrete. I've got my bike running pretty well and looking good. I'm just about at the point were I'm going to hack off the back-end and start buying things but I don't want to do something recklessly and waste money or delay the process by damaging something.

Can someone point me in the right direction? any videos out there?

Thanks in advance!

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 10:43:27 PM »
Who's definition of "Brat Style" ? The name came from a style of bike put out of a shop in Japan. Americans it seems have decided that a brat style is basically a chopper without an extended front end.If you don't want to waste money or do something reckless then stop right now with your plans of which you have no idea what direction to take. But then again, I don't like brat style bikes, so do what you want.

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2015, 06:07:23 AM »
I don'tknow that you'll find a guide or video defining the brat style.   I'd just do google image search of "CB750 brat style"
For the most part, they are just lowered a bit which can be accomplished different ways - shorter shocks, and springs is easy.
Throw on some lower bars, Add a flat seat-you can find those on ebay and some vintage style tires, for which you will take a beating for on this forum and call it done.  A member here built this one, it's always be one of my favorites of that genre.

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2015, 11:34:26 AM »
Try "The Standardized Guide to Unique Custom Bike Building in Vaguely Defined and Operationally Dubious Styles"

Published by.......nobody.

Just kidding -- Build it how you want it, not how you think others want it. Think about function, and test it extensively in every way before you take it out on the road.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 11:44:51 AM »
Nice one vames  ;D
I'm going full out Bosozoku on my next build    ;D

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 03:35:21 PM »
Brat style is on Wikipedia, filed under "seats that are in no way shaped like the human ass."
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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2015, 07:09:03 PM »
WOW!! NO ONE ASKED FOR AN OPION OF THE STYLE.
Guys if you don't have any information that is actually related to the question please move along. There are plenty of other post on here and all over the internet where you can express your opinions and distain for anything other than a stock (looking) bike.

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2015, 09:17:00 PM »
might be regional 'interpretations', but around here, most are cut like old bobbers with a shortened front end, no fender, fat tires on both ends and chopped rear fender(the 'bob' in bobber).  made to ride solo and always with ape hangers.  paint ranges from rat to show.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2015, 09:29:59 PM »
Hey you are the new guy here no need to get pissy..
 There probably. Ain't no guide...
 And if you need one to build something...maybe you ain't ready..
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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 10:28:32 PM »
WOW!! NO ONE ASKED FOR AN OPION OF THE STYLE.
Guys if you don't have any information that is actually related to the question please move along. There are plenty of other post on here and all over the internet where you can express your opinions and distain for anything other than a stock (looking) bike.

if that were the case the thread would have ended after his original post because there is no "guide" to building a brat. There is nothing IMHO that is an improvement to the motorcycle when building a brat, whatever a brat is.

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 03:45:10 AM »
WOW!! NO ONE ASKED FOR AN OPION OF THE STYLE.
Guys if you don't have any information that is actually related to the question please move along. There are plenty of other post on here and all over the internet where you can express your opinions and distain for anything other than a stock (looking) bike.

There are a lot of people here that have "distain" for compromising the functionality of a bike by trying to "customize" it into a trendy style. When they see people asking if there is a guide or standard for customization (oxymoron) those people are obviously going to poke some fun. Thicken your skin a bit and/or go someplace where there are more people that care about the style of the bike than the heritage of the bike. 

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 04:35:42 AM »

Hey you are the new guy here no need to get pissy..
 There probably. Ain't no guide...
 And if you need one to build something...maybe you ain't ready..

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Though I'd have said it with a bit less sass, haha.


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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 08:17:32 AM »
WOW!! NO ONE ASKED FOR AN OPION OF THE STYLE.
Guys if you don't have any information that is actually related to the question please move along. There are plenty of other post on here and all over the internet where you can express your opinions and distain for anything other than a stock (looking) bike.

Not a good start on these forums, man. We'll help you out when we can, but you've got to be willing to put up with some of us giving you a hard time every once in a while.

I think the suggestion for googling & finding similar styles to what you're looking for is the best approach. Take note of what modifications have been done, put in the effort to understand why those mods are done, are they done for good reasons or not?

All in all, live by the golden rule, treat your bike as you want to be treated. Or something...

Oh & P.S. it's kind of poor form to post the same thread in both the SOHC bikes & also the Projects part of the forum.
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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 10:05:51 AM »
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We'll help you out when we can, but you've got to be willing to put up with some of us giving you a hard time every once in a while.

My idea of a hard time is a "seat" made out of a skateboard and half an inch of foam, though, am I right?
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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2015, 05:23:35 PM »
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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2015, 05:25:41 PM »
Is there any reason to have two threads in two different boards on the same topic?  Presuming the primary one in Projects is for a build project, this one should be deleted.
1975 CB550K1 "Blue" Stockish Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=135005.0)
1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2015, 07:42:54 PM »
Oh alright,
Now everyone else is getting defensive. ;D
I'm simply stating that I asked a question but I mostly got opinions. I've been riding for a while and I've built a bike before. This is the first one I'll be doing frame work. Let me be more specific. Since I'm having trouble locating sources, after scouring google, does anyone know of any videos or post where someone goes into detail of chopping the backend cutting off the seat bridge and welding on a hoop? I'm happy to go at it alone but I thought I'd ask because I've seen bikes on here that have been modified that why. I'm basically just building a cafe racer with a flat seat. 

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2015, 08:10:33 PM »
It's pretty simple.  In my sig I sell what you are describing.  Also with a matched hoop, and machined mounting inserts.  Doesn't get any easier than that.

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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2015, 07:39:38 AM »
I thought the video I posted in the Project thread was useful!  ;)

+1 on replacing the crossmember.
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1975 CB550F1 frame/CB650 engine hybrid "The Hot Mess" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,150220.0.html)
2008 Triumph Thruxton (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,190956.0.html)
2014 MV Agusta Brutale Dragster 800
2015 Yamaha FZ-09 (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,186861.0.html)

"There are some things nobody needs in this world, and a bright-red, hunch-back, warp-speed 900cc cafe racer is one of them — but I want one anyway, and on some days I actually believe I need one.... Being shot out of a cannon will always be better than being squeezed out of a tube. That is why God made fast motorcycles, Bubba." Hunter S. Thompson, Song of the Sausage Creature, Cycle World, March 1995.  (http://www.latexnet.org/~csmith/sausage.html and https://magazine.cycleworld.com/article/1995/3/1/song-of-the-sausage-creature)

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1973 CB750K2 "Bionic Mongrel" (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=132734.0) - Sold
1977 CB750K7 "Nine Lives" Restomod (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=50490.0) - Sold
2005 RVT1000RR RC51-SP2 "El Diablo" - Sold
2016+ Triumph Thruxton 1200 R (http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,170198.0.html) - Sold

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Re: brat style bike guide???
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2015, 07:50:52 AM »
My idea of a hard time is a "seat" made out of a skateboard and half an inch of foam, though, am I right?
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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2015, 09:07:45 AM »
Surely there must exist videos on building brat style stuff..
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2015, 09:49:14 AM »

Why didn't you say so in the beginning that all you needed was some sources? Could have saved us all from some time wares ribbing you over a skateboard on wheels!  ;)

I have nothing against skateboards. I just don't want to put one under my ass.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2015, 09:55:08 AM »
Surely there must exist videos on building brat style stuff..
Yup, lots of them. Here's one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkHJuU01-Wk