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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #325 on: March 12, 2017, 06:17:06 PM »
Light Ivory should give the bike a soft look to it rather than bold.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #326 on: March 14, 2017, 04:41:01 AM »
That is pretty much the plan with the color scheme...soft and a bit girly without being girly.

Just a few parts hanging around.  I am going to pick them up this evening.




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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #327 on: March 14, 2017, 07:00:07 AM »
Did you find a good PC shop? That was fast.
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« Reply #328 on: March 14, 2017, 07:16:01 AM »
I have been on a local Facebook page that is for guys like me who build things in their garage.  One of the guys there has a very small business that a few folks I know have used and recommended.  I did the vast majority of the prep work so my costs were cut in half which enabled the quick turn around.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #329 on: March 14, 2017, 07:47:09 AM »
I know you're enjoying that new compressor! Were you able to fit the main frame inside the sandblast cabinet or was that done outside ?
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« Reply #330 on: March 14, 2017, 07:51:16 AM »
It was done outside.  I posted a pic of my rigged up enclosure on the previous page.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #331 on: March 15, 2017, 02:33:24 PM »
All I need to do is tap the holes and clean the ground spots.  It seems like a lot, but most of it won't even really be seen.


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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #332 on: March 16, 2017, 08:27:34 AM »
looking great! 
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« Reply #333 on: March 18, 2017, 05:11:46 PM »
So what to do on a drizzly day...Oh I know.




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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #334 on: March 18, 2017, 05:25:40 PM »
The colors tie togther well. 


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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #335 on: March 18, 2017, 05:34:24 PM »
This is going to be one sweet bike, Harsh!  Your daughter is going to love this thing.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #336 on: March 18, 2017, 05:53:20 PM »
I don't know about you, but I love a good strip tease......

Just don't tell the kids that their mom is really talented at the strip tease or they are liable to plug their ears, saying LaLaLALALA! running or equally crass retorts such as ewww! and Please, stop, I don't want to know any more!...

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I've fell behind,  great work and really nice looking parts!  Going to look really great when it has come back and is all together from paint and assembled...  Seat looks really good with that RAL ivory.
She is going to be ecstatic when it is all together and running, should be ready in another month?  Does she ride now and has she taking the MSF course?  Got her gear yet?  RevZilla carries some womens gear she might like...could be able to talk them into giving her a military discount without too much difficulty.  Might need to send them a photo or copy of military ID if they want to see proof...or direct them to social media page showing her in her camos. Is the Navy still using blue camo or did all of the armed services go to a universal scheme?  I know they were ditching velcro for buttons again as velcro can be really tactically bad juju when trying to sneak about in the dark or daylight when in close proximity to red forces. But, the Navy doesn't usually get that up close and personal, the USAF even farther away normally when doing high altitude bombing or even ground attack runs. Far less personal... Better to not have to experience those things, but that is not the world we live in. I am glad Trump authorized raises for the military, way way way overdue! It was insulting that they had not done so for so long...the wrong place to control your budget in my opinion.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #337 on: March 19, 2017, 08:30:06 AM »
The colors tie togther well. 


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Definitely. I wouldn't have thought a cream fender would look so damn good.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #338 on: March 19, 2017, 11:56:45 AM »
Harsh,

The POR Chassis Black is a very nice tough paint if you consider blasting and redoing any black coated parts (other than calipers)...those can be nice if done with a hard teflon coating, HondaMan may have some experience with it. I know a guy in Sacramento who uses it a lot on the satin black parts even the calipers and MCs...they come out very nice and it is resistant to most chemicals you throw at it.
You can get new sight glasses for MCs if you rebuild any that have reservoirs with sight glasses from some ebay sellers. They work well...saw them used on a build thread.

You can buy sheet Teflon from McMaster-Carr and cut washers from it, a couple between your bolt and washers and any painted surfaces and it won't marr the paint work, unless you need it to grip that part...I was thinking for around pivot bolts like the levers. 

Where did you buy the levers from and are they made for the 350 or a specific perch and/or MC or could something like that be fitted to stock levers. The adjustable levers are a nice feature. I think I would like to have them with dual disks up front...  Not sure if the MC is not equipped with them originally if they benefit, ignorant on all their benefits. I know it an dial up or down the leverage applied to the controls for that grip.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #339 on: March 19, 2017, 01:39:54 PM »
Touche David...touche

She doesn't ride now, but can take the MSF course for free through the military.  Revzilla does give a military discount of 5%.  I don't remember having to prove anything, but I might of had to the first time.  All you have to do is put stuff in your cart then call them and ask for it and they will add it it right there.  Pretty sweet.
The Navy has blue and green cammies, but they are once again changing.  I think they are ditching the blue or as well called them blueberries or aquaflauge.

I got the levers from a place called Mad Scientist Moto.  The guy that owns it is a member of SVRider.com (a Suzuki forum).  They are for an SV650.  I already had a clutch perch for an SV and a buddy gave me the brake perch/master cylinder since he put a GSXR front end on his SV and wasn't ever going to use it.

The rear fender will barely be seen at all, but I wanted what little bit that would be seen to not stand out.

Today proved to be a how bad can I mess things up kind of day.  I started out with going to install the steering bearings.  I measure the stack height of the old next to the new and decide that the stock very thin washer/spacer is the one to use.  Get everything installed and slide the lower triple through the neck.  When I just hand tighten the nut I can barely move the triple.  It is hitting against the neck.  Damn it, I will have to remove the lower bearing which will 99.9% surely destroy it.  Well it aint budging one bit.  I end up having to cut two slots in it and then use a cold chisel to gently caress it out.  Fine, I will just have to order a new one.

Onto some wiring I guess.  I get the electronic ignition installed on the engine and proceed to start wiring it up.  Crimp on the pins and give them a little tug to make sure they are tight.  Good to go.  I go to slide them into their connectors.  Once they pop through I pull them back a bit to lock to lock them in place and a wire pops out.  Finagle the pin out of the connector and crimp on a new pin.  This time I cinch down the crimp tool a bit.  Go to install the other side of the connector and the same #$%* happens...a wire pops out.

I threw in the towel.  The electronics store is closed today so I will have to wait until tomorrow until I can get a new connector and pins.  Add to that number of screws, bolts, and a new carb clamp that have come up missing over the past two days I am getting very frustrated.  Now would be the perfect time for a beer, but I am abstaining for a month.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #340 on: March 21, 2017, 11:13:14 AM »
Stopped by the electronics store on the way home and picked up some new connectors and pins.  Got the wiring for the electronic ignition finished.  Doubling over the bare wire definitely helped.  The connections are now strong.  The new steering bearings will be here tomorrow so I should be able to get the front end together then.  I started doing some measuring for the cables.  Unfortunately I found two throttle cables in my stash of parts that are of vastly different lengths.  The shorter of the two fits the best.  Now I just need to see if I can find a cable in that length online.  I will more than likely have the same issue with the clutch cable.

 I also received my LED headlight yesterday.  Unfortunately there was supposed to be two in the package, but they only shipped one.  I am going to put one in the 750.  Attached it to the headlight and there is plenty of room in the bucket.  And damn is that thing bright.

 I also managed to track down the tripe pinch bolts.  For some reason when I was doing some mock ups of the front end a long time ago I attached them to the piece that my buddy made for me vice putting them back in their labeled baggie.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #341 on: March 22, 2017, 11:33:31 PM »
I have had those days Harsh.  Sometimes better to just yell at the top of your lungs to release the anger and walk away... Crude but effective.  Best to not do it in the middle of the night...might disturb the neighbors.  It can be cathartic...  Used to play some video games that were a little violent to work off stress at work and blow off steam. Nothing like a 1st person shooter to work out your stress where you can go bezerk for fun and lay waste to the bots or if in team play work it out on the opposing team.
Laughter can relieve stress too, so watching something that makes you laugh can defuse the anger or frustration of a tough day.  I usually direct the anger inward, you can't do that for long and stay healthy.  I've been through the health issues from stress related stuff.

I know, you probably were not that angry...just frustrated at the crap going wrong.

Like they say, some days nothing goes right. Time to go fishing or do something else. Kind of like art, I can't paint watercolors unless I am in the right frame of mind. Recognizing those days I can prevent from screwing it up, really tough to fix a mistake when dealing with transparent layers to achieve the color depth and blending, etc.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #342 on: March 23, 2017, 04:53:27 AM »
Yah, just frustrated.  I have dealt with the stress/depression stuff before so I know how to recognize it within myself.

New steering bearing arrived yesterday so I got the front end put together correctly.  I wish I had thought about having my buddy make some plugs to go in the holes in the triple, but I guess I could always have some made later.  I have thought about putting a switch in one to turn the headlight on/off, but not sure what to do with the other one.  Maybe a mount for a cell phone/gps/camera.

The front end looks kind of mean.  I like it.



And of course an as she sits profile view.  No the clutch cable isn't staying the way it is.  I just have it that way to keep it out of my way.



I think I am at the point where I need to get the tires mounted so I can get this baby into a roller.  I think I figured out the control cables.  There are only a couple of places I can find that have shorter throttle cable and I finally found a place that has a very slightly shorter (1") clutch cable.  The less I have the better.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #343 on: March 23, 2017, 05:43:16 AM »
Push Button KILL/RUN on the right, Key switch on the left  ;)
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #344 on: March 23, 2017, 08:29:04 AM »
You can order custom length cables from Motion Pro.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #345 on: March 23, 2017, 11:39:44 AM »
Yah, I had a post on the Honda Twins site where someone mentioned that.  Unfortunately, it aint cheap ($42-$47 each) to have them made.  I was able to find some that should fit the bill.  The clutch cable is 1" shorter than stock which will help with having to manipulate it to take up some of the extra cable.  The throttle cable is 36" total which matches the one of the cables I have (that looks like crap) and fits very well.

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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #346 on: March 23, 2017, 02:20:38 PM »
Too bad they don't list them by length and end, they make more money by " supplying" custom cables, when having a good indexing system they could be ordered without the additional charges.  Their program to identify the bikes stock length as cable x or y or z but not specifying length they get away with supplying what may be a stock cable for another bike as a custom length by repackaging it.  Only making a new cable or custom cable when the length is not matching the stock dimensions for another bike.  Many stock bikes use odd sizes, as in part of an inch to achieve the cosmetics of having a certain length radius in their bends...

On some older bike designs you could resolder ends on and get the ferrules and crimps to do your own  a ratcheting crimper or large lever design that mounted to a bench or board was used to form the crimp on 4 sides.  Far less common today and the crimp tools are expensive.  Today they are all machine made.

Motion Pro cables are good quality but the Honda made cables are even better, typically operating smoothly for far longer and often not requiring any cable lube until they are getting up in years approaching end of life.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #347 on: March 23, 2017, 02:26:43 PM »
BTW, did the 350 ever  have Comstars stock?  I like the STD Comstars, not a fan of the reverse Comstars.  But the std or reverse are tough to deal with rust unless you have blast equipment, then getting any abrasive out between the spokes and repainting the underside of the spokes is difficult without runs trying to paint the middle of the underside.  I guess with a spray gun where you can build very light coats it is not as hard....spray can are nearly impossible.

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« Reply #348 on: March 23, 2017, 03:01:36 PM »
I think you could vapor blast them, too.
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Re: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter
« Reply #349 on: March 23, 2017, 03:39:14 PM »
Lengths are listed, but you have to search through each model to figure them out.  I am willing to bet a smaller bikes stock cable length would probably work for me.  You can still get piece parts from Flanders cables, but once you buy everything it would be cheaper to buy pre-made.

I don't think a 350 ever had Comstars on them.  Repainting them was a pain and I ran into the issues you described.  I agree that you could probably vapor blast them.