Topic: 1972 CB350 For the Daughter

[540nova]

When you remove that lip, you'll discover some rust hidden under there too. Good time to remedy that. Never been a fan of "lippy" tanks, kids or wives. 

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[calj737]

There was a bunch of rust underneath the lip just like you said Cal.  The wire wheel took care of.  That is when I noticed about 5 pinholes on the other side.  I guess I know why the tank was lined before I got it.  So I guess I get to line this tank.

I have seen this movie before...

[Harsh]

Ordered the powder coat powder tonight...ah yah

Finished cleaning the inside of the tank and got a few pics of the pinholes.  Picked up some Red-Kote so hopefully this weekend I will be able to get the tank lined.  Keeping the fuel cross over tubes clear is going to be a pain, but I will get it done.  I have never lined a tank so this is going to be an endeavor.

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Inside of tank cleaned.

[Harsh]

Lined tank yesterday.  Successfully managed to keep the cross over tubes clear using some weed eater string and as far as I can tell there are no puddles.  I did a lot of rotating of the tank to keep it from puddling and to keep draining the excess.




Started stripping the paint on the side covers.  Holy layers of paint and primer.  The top color was maroon candy, then a dark under color, then primer, then red, then primer, the red again, and finally primer.  Of course I find a corner chipped off on one of the covers so I get to make that piece out of epoxy. 

[Harsh]

Realized I never posted a pic of the "cover" I made for the kick start lever.  It may not be the most elegant solution, but it isn't horrible.  It serves the purpose of protecting the splines of the kick start shaft and allows me to easily put a kick start lever back on if need be.

[RAFster122s]

Tidy work on the kickstart delete cover. So, it is starter or bump start this puppy for the daughter.
Nice work cleaning up the tank.  It is never fun dealing with rust.

Glad the gauge work came out to your liking. What color did your daughter decide to go with on the bike?

[Harsh]

Thanks. I guess so 

Again thanks.  I have never not had to deal with a rusty tank.  This is the first one I have ever had to line though.  I figured if I do it now it will have at least a good month to fully cure.  Although it may be a bit longer because I am about to hit a wife imposed spending limit real quick.  I have my eye on a Ingersol Rand 5hp, 80 gallon, two stage air compressor.  I am tired of trying to make do and get by with tools that just aren't designed for what I want to use them for.  I wish I could consider a Quincy, but damn they are expensive.

She picked out a Fiat color she liked.  I think they call it light green.




With cream accents.  I found a nice powder color that should work very well.  It is RAL1015

[RAFster122s]

Harsh,

Check out J Webster's bike he built for a customer...  it is called Hitch
http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php/topic,154272.0.html

The green would look good painted similarly...
 Or are you intending to PC the tank and paint it as well?  Or is that tan powder for the frame?

Keep up the great work!

David

[Harsh]

Checked out J Webster's build.  He does some beautiful work, but I think you were trying to poke at me because he has a nice Quincy air compressor  Damn, I need one of those in my life.

The tan is for the frame and some bits.  The tank is going to be painted.  I have an idea in my head for some Honda wings going down the sides of the tank.  Those will be painted to match the tan.  I would like to find some Honda logos to put on the side covers like the ones that were on the sides of the tank.  However, when I put the ones that came off of the tank on the side covers they might be a bit long.

[RAFster122s]

There are many different sizes of those if you choose to pursue that route.  Take a photo of the badge and scale it to print at various sizes trim around it and stand back and see which size you like.  They could be done in vinyl and cleared over. Or you can use vinyl paint masks and paint them.  There is a repo badge seller in Australia who produces very nice badges in many sizes, if one of the originals were to work.
I will dig up the site for you...
I know a great vinyl sign person if you want to go that route.

No it wasn't a dig...Quincy does make good compressors too.  Buy as big a tank as you can afford, 50-80  gallon should about do it I think. Or go big to 100-120g.
I have know guys to build their own from good quality components, sourcing parts from mix of new and used.
I know 30 isn't enough...

David

[Harsh]

I don't want to go with a vinyl or sticker.  I like the stand out nature of the originals.  I have yet to confirm, but I think the tank emblems from a 69/70 CB125 might be a length I am looking for.

[grcamna2]

I don't want to go with a vinyl or sticker.  I like the stand out nature of the originals.  I have yet to confirm, but I think the tank emblems from a 69/70 CB125 might be a length I am looking for.

The SS125 twin ?

[Harsh]

I have been trying to remember the last part I need to make for about two weeks.  Every time I remember I am in a place where I can't write it down.  I was watching the Supercross races from last week when I remembered this morning.  SO I hopped up and went to the garage to make it.

The brake light and license plate mount.  I knew I wanted to tuck the light just under the seat, but wasn't sure how to mount it.  I ran through a number of options in my head, but settled on a simple bracket that I found in my parts drawer and some bent steel.

The first three are with just the piece I made.  The colored in black part in sharpie will be trimmed to follow the curve of the plate mount part that came with the light as will the extra bit of metal on the back end of the bracket.
The last two pics are with the plate bracket that came with the light.  Not sure if the angle will work yet with the tire, but it can be bent/adjusted to fit.

[Restoration Fan]

Nice work on that tail light mount, Harsh.  Bike is looking really good!  Your daughter is a lucky lady.

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

I thought it was bolted into the seat, but it's al tucked under flush. Looks good.

[RAFster122s]

Nice and looks like it was designed to go there!

Will you have to apply a few of those LEDs from the instruments to the bottom of the brake light to illuminate the plate?  Some police officers start looking for anything if they take a notion to it...  Hopefully they don't hassle motorcyclists who aren't acting like stereotypical squid.  I know NC can be really pedantic if they want.

When's the daughter scheduled for another stint at sea?  Still having fun blasting and coating stuff.  It didn't occur to me that the Navy would have switched to Powder coat before you mentioned that...it would be a more durable coating than the gazillion layers of paint everything normally gets.
When I toured the USS Alabama as a kid and the USS Midway a few years ago along with a sub or two it always struck me how thick the paint was on everything...looks like a slosh coating (making molded parts where you slosh the casting resin about the mold and pour out the excess when you have it thick enough.)

Have a good week!  We got a bit of snow today... you get any up your way?  Imagine if you are close to the coast not too much...as well as being further south than typical "snow belt line".  Nothing stuck to the roads but they are very wet and possibly slick because of freezing temps...black ice possible. Maybe about 2 inches so far here but they said accumulation would be varying widely in the region... nearby mountains expect around 4 inches.

David

[Harsh]

Thanks fellas.  I thought about attaching it to the seat, but then you would have to disconnect the wires when/if you removed it.

The brake light has a white light that points down onto the license plate.  It remains to be seen if it will be sufficient though.  Just in case I have a spare set of led plate bolts that should provide enough light.

Not sure when she is supposed to go back to sea.  Her boat is still in the yards getting some repair work done.  I wouldn't say she is having fun blasting and coating.  The only do it to doors and some other bits.  The walls and such still have copious amounts of paint on them.  Sloshing is about how Sailors paint so I see why you would have thought that.  I am hoping that she will be able to coat the parts this Thursday.

No snow since that last big storm ran across the country.  Which is fine with me.  I hate driving in the stuff.  We always have layers of ice underneath it so it gets pretty treacherous.  There are only 48 trucks for the entire Hampton Roads area so they only clear the highways and main roads.  The side streets and non major roadways are left to fend for themselves.

[Harsh]

Did a little work on the tank design.  I can't tell you how many times I printed this in different sizes and paper types (letter, legal, ledger) to get it to where I was satisfied with it.  I originally put it lower on the side of the tank, but it just looked weird with nothing over the front center portion of the tank.  I actually kind of like how the end of the wing wraps onto the top of the tank a little bit.

[SOHC4 Cafe Racer Fan]

Did a little work on the tank design.  I can't tell you how many times I printed this in different sizes and paper types (letter, legal, ledger) to get it to where I was satisfied with it.  I originally put it lower on the side of the tank, but it just looked weird with nothing over the front center portion of the tank.  I actually kind of like how the end of the wing wraps onto the top of the tank a little bit.

It's reminiscent of Nicky Hayden's new WSBK livery.

[Harsh]

It kind of is.  I am still playing around with sizing to get it where I am truly happy with it.

[Restoration Fan]

I am still playing around with sizing to get it where I am truly happy with it.

That's what she said? 

[Harsh]

So I am not 100% satisfied on the wing.  Looking at on just the tank isn't giving me the warm and fuzzy.  So I decided to take some pics from a slight distance with the tank and seat on the frame to hopefully get a better idea.

In my mind I had a thought/vision of the wings being streamed down the side of the tank like the bird is moving fast.  Sort of like how some people like the rear ends lower on old muscle cars because they thought it made them look like they were moving fast.

OK...I put 6 different sizes on and took two pictures of each. The first is me standing with the camera about chest level and the second is me squatting trying to get about as level with the bike as I could.  Let me know what you think.

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[calj737]

Personally, I would only use that logo in a much smaller scale. To achieve what you're after (graphic contacting motion) I would not use a defined image. I would only use a non-identity graphic lines at a larger scale.

I think this is where you're getting hung up visually. You know its a wing, and you're saying to yourself, how big a wing do I like the look of? So the wing is now "swallowing" the tank up. Plus the upswept tail of the feathers competes visually with the descending line of the tank. 

My $0.02

[Harsh]

I would not use a defined image. I would only use a non-identity graphic lines at a larger scale.

What does that mean?  My wee brain doesn't understand the second sentence.

[calj737]

Don't use a "known" image like the wing, logo etc. Use lines or stripes or painted areas.